6029 staying in NSW for 2015

 
  BIG-BEAR Chief Train Controller

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6029 will not be touring Victoria or SA in 2015 .

Sad news .

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  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
I thought crewing might be an issue together with the centenary celebrations in NSW.

Oh well.

I hope Facebook is accurate.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

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6029 will not be touring Victoria or SA in 2015 .

Sad news .
BIG-BEAR
A wise decision given the dramas with the fire at Newport etc.  Much better to postpone it until next year when things have settled down.

There appears to be some interesting Broad Gauge tours and events this year to keep us happy in the meantime....
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: Gheringhap Loop Autonomous Zone
Reposted from Facebook:

Garratt Victoria/South Australia Trip – June/July 2015

A lot has been going on with organising this massive tour since it’s early inception in the last quarter of 2014. Numerous meetings have been taking place between Network owners, Steamrail (SRV), Canberra ARHS and regulators. We are sorry to say, but Locomotive Garratt 6029, will not be venturing to Victoria and South Australia in 2015. This is due to a number of reasons:

  • The crews and volunteers are still learning the locomotive. It’s a very different locomotive to anything they are used to.
  • The hard working Canberra ARHS team have found a number of items on the locomotive that need modification/trialling having run to Thirlmere late in February.
  • The locomotive is still in its early days with components being run in, it has been decided to let the locomotive run in these components with local trips around NSW. Once Canberra ARHS are happy with the reliability of the loco, they will let it loose on longer runs then eventually into Victoria and possibly South Australia.
  • The fire that recently happened at Newport has set Steamrail back a long way. Meetings about the fire are taking place all the time and the operational staff of this tour are attending these meetings. Matters arising from these meetings are being dealt with by the same people. This has been a big factor in this decision.’
  • The SRV Standard Gauge carriages are still being worked on at the moment. We were hoping that the majority of them would be operational by now, sadly this isn’t the case. This is also stopping a few other projects from pushing forward.
  • 600BK was a carriage being worked on to go onto the SG. The fire at Newport extensively damaged the outside of this carriage and part of the roof.

SRV and Canberra ARHS have postponed everything until 2016 when a number of factors are met and operational staff are happy. We thank everyone for their initial support and comments about this big record breaking journey, we apologise for not delivering on what we hope we were. There are just too many factors around this trip that make the organisers a little nervous. Rest assured that SRV is actively pushing to run trains in South Australia and SG Victorian Trains in the near future. SRV and Canberra ARHS are also working together forming a close relationship to bring you some exciting train trips in the future.
In the meantime, please support the Canberra ARHS by going for a ride behind this wonderful locomotive. Their website is http://www.canberrarailwaymuseum.org/
Steamrail
  apw5910 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Location: Location.
Actually it will be staying in the ACT and doing tours in NSW in 2015...
  ARK95 Station Staff

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
It's unfortunate to hear, I was looking forward to riding behind the Garratt in South Australia. But that's life!

I wish ARHS ACT the best of luck with the Garratt, hopefully next time all the ducks line up and it's able to venture into Victoria / South Australia in the future
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
Sad to hear, but with such an ambitious plan I think everything needed to go right for the groups involved, this hasn't been the case, not to anyones fault. I wish Canberra ARTC and SRV all the best, and hope to one day ride behind the giant beast in Victoria in the future.
  Loco Administrator Railpage 2 Developer

Location: Melbourne
I thought crewing might be an issue together with the centenary celebrations in NSW.

Oh well.

I hope Facebook is accurate.
freightgate
I've suspect you're still skeptical about Facebook not being accurate.

Like I've said in the past, yes it is accurate.
See - http://www.steamrail.com.au - anything posted to Steamrail's Facebook site appears on the front page of the website.

It's what we do because we do not have time to double handle posts and information.

Regards,
Lionel.
  JoppaJunction Chief Train Controller

Location: Banned
Thanks for the update Lionel.  You do wonder sometimes with some of the rubbish in Facebook.

Will Steamrail still look to work with the ARHS ACT team to make a tour happen in 2016 perhaps?
  BIG-BEAR Chief Train Controller

Thanks for the update Lionel.  You do wonder sometimes with some of the rubbish in Facebook.

Will Steamrail still look to work with the ARHS ACT team to make a tour happen in 2016 perhaps?
JoppaJunction

If you read the full facebook post you will find the answer to your question .
  BIG-BEAR Chief Train Controller

Actually it will be staying in the ACT and doing tours in NSW in 2015...
apw5910

The thread is more about 6029 not leaving the NSW borders this year for the interstate tours .
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
Having in a former life been heavily involved in the logistics of running extensive mainline steam operations, I am not surprised that this decision has been taken.   You need to get a lot of experience of running, maintaining and getting the logistic support right for a unique locomotive such as this and 12 months of bedding these things down is a very wise move.   We of course will all be disappointed but similarly we wouldn't want to see the operation compromised either.

Not only are their large distances involved but your running across interstate mainlines that demand a very reliable operation.   There's a significant long term reputational risk if anything was to go wrong.

All the best to those concerned in pulling this together through 2015.   Really 2016 is not that far away.
  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
It also gives people an extra 12 months to save up for tickets Wink
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
It also gives people an extra 12 months to save up for tickets Wink
michaelgreenhill
Damn straight.

It also gives the organisers the opportunity to plan properly as to what, and where the Garratt will operate when it does head down here. It gives the chance for proper liasing with whatever bodies need to be involved with it's running down here, and in S.A (V/Line, ARTC et al). Most importantly; crews can be trained on shorter runs, and the loco gets to run in properly first. Any teething troubles can be sorted out before it does make such a long journey. The last thing anyone would want is for the loco to give an indifferent performance because it hasn't properly bedded in yet.

A good move, and kudos to ARHS-Act, and Steamrail Victoria for being sensible about it.
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
ARHS had a appeal as they told us howe much it was for  ONE load of coal to feel the  AD60.  Bet there will be lots of recoaling needed, and of course the $$$ to pay for it.

Given that there are not regular coaling places, they have to work out how far they can go before watering and coaling is needed. Not it'l go before running out, but how far they can go and stop.  This will take time as they relearn the loco, while the 'older' generation who worked or saw these mighty beats at work can help, the loco is restored in the here and now and they have to work it out.

So they have to work out how far, the coal and water needed. And if it is a massive bill, it has to be worked out. Will they find places to do this without holding up the line..... and how do you recoal and water such a loco on the fly....  

I am sure this is known, ( der of course) but we have to realise there are lots of factors. This post only shows one.

I can wait,no,    I have to wait.  

Regards,
DavidHead
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
I agree with the sentiments expressed by others - don't rush; get the loco properly run in, organise all the points where ER will be needed, and talk with all bodies involved to work out satisfactory running without getting in the way.
As dthead says, we can wait.

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