Rumour is it's been looked at for heritage service with some other single decks.I did see something about that on Transport heritage site. Is anything actually happening with that so far? It would be a huge step for heritage rail in our state to actually run a heritage electric set/locomotive.
I did see something about that on Transport heritage site. Is anything actually happening with that so far? It would be a huge step for heritage rail in our state to actually run a heritage electric set/locomotive.Quite off topic. They run off the 1500 volt DC overhead just like 'modern' electric trains.
Probably off topic but, is there a generator big enough to couple behind one of the single deck sets that will power them?
Quite off topic. They run off the 1500 volt DC overhead just like 'modern' electric trains.I know that. But is there a generator that can make that and be towed behind them? Like the way Glenreagh run their tram.
I know that. But is there a generator that can make that and be towed behind them? Like the way Glenreagh run their tram.Of course you could make a generator big enough to run the train, it only has to produce 1500V at a few hundred amps. Say a 1000HP set, really not a big ask in these days of 4000HP units. It would probably look pretty much like a diesel electric locomotive. So why not save all that trouble and use a diesel electric locomotive instead?
Of course you could make a generator big enough to run the train, it only has to produce 1500V at a few hundred amps. Say a 1000HP set, really not a big ask in these days of 4000HP units. It would probably look pretty much like a diesel electric locomotive. So why not save all that trouble and use a diesel electric locomotive instead?To power the units or to pull the set all together?
Why would you want to do that? There is quite serviceable overhead wiring and each carriage retains full wiring for power collection by pantograph. if you were that desperate to do it you could couple a diesel electric unit to it with generator output connected by some for of jumper leads to the control circuitry. There is no need to do it. Remember that these carriages are wide stock and cannot run outside the metropolitan area bounded by Cowan, Emu Plains, Macarthur and Waterfall.Because I have heard that the government refuses to allow electric heritage stock to utilise the overhead wires.
Because I have heard that the government refuses to allow electric heritage stock to utilise the overhead wires.That is rubbish. The reason they do not run is because they do not have automatic doors and is a safety hazard.
That is rubbish. The reason they do not run is because they do not have automatic doors and is a safety hazard.Ok. I didn't mean that was necessarily the reason, I just said that's what I had been told. Your answer makes sense, but doesn't that not apply to the 46, 85 and 86 class locomotives?
That is rubbish. The reason they do not run is because they do not have automatic doors and is a safety hazard.I thought it was because the old single decks are now out of gauge? If it was just the doors then why does Heritage Express have attendants operating the doors of old carriages manually to discourage passengers from opening them?
Because I have heard that the government refuses to allow electric heritage stock to utilise the overhead wires.'The Government' or some other amorphous body does not refuse permission for straight electric, pantograph equipped vehicles to run in NSW on the electrified network. There area few reasons why none are running.
As for the two carriages out at Thirlmere representing stock like C3102 I strongly disagree. The Bradfield car at Thirlmere is entirely different to C3102, while the later car is also physically different (and of no historic significance in itself) to a Leeds Forge car in C3102. And lastly why do we have a museum open to the public to exhibit our most historic pieces if the last survivor of the first electric train in NSW is held out of public view?I agree that C3045 and T4310 are not the same as C3102. They do represent the technology and the appearance of C3102 which to the public is sufficient.
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Richard
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