I like candy

 
  8619 Station Staff

*BUMP*

I was actually trying to find out when the Freight Rail blue colour scheme was introduced (planning to build a layout based on the SRA network in 1990 and not sure if including FR Blue liveried locos would be historically correct). In doing so I found this old thread, and reading some of the comments here I felt compelled enough to register and cast my vote.

I'd nominate the SRA Candy scheme in a heart beat. I can't understand some of the old-timers here rubbishing it and saying things like "How could you take a train seriously if it looked like that?" Remove the nostalgia glasses for a moment and imagine you're a tourist and a rail fan from overseas. What paint scheme on a train would look more interesting and distinctive to you? Drab brown locos/ carriages with a single yellow stripe? Or bold red, with yellow, orange and white stripes? The tuscan scheme was too earthy and drab, it blended into the background. It looks just the same as plenty of other old railways around the world.

The candy colour scheme was brilliant because it was unique- even overseas. The candy colour scheme is actually what gave me my first sense of state pride. Looking through railway books/ magazines in the late 80's/ early 90's I'd see the pale blue and white scheme of QR or the orange and grey VLine scheme- which made the trains look like giant stinkbugs, if you ask me! Only the National Rail green and gold scheme came close. But here in NSW, we had this awesome predominately red colour scheme that had not just one, but three secondary colours to it. I'd be proud to roll into an interstate terminal in a train that looked like that! I was proud that in my home state, THIS is what the trains looked like. If I'd grown up in Victoria or Qld or WA and seen that the people in NSW got to ride around in trains looking like that, I'd have been jealous!

On a purely aesthetic level, what I loved about the candy scheme (especially on the carriages) is that it evoked the romanticism of taking a long-distance train. Car trips as a passenger were cramped, bumpy and tiring. Air travel was cramped and boring. But the candy colour scheme made me think of the adventure that was part of long-distance/ overnight train travel. The red/ yellow/ orange/ white made me think of the sunset. Or the sunrise. It made me think of having dinner, going to sleep and waking up- all on the train. It made me think of travelling to far-away places I'd never been before. Like a family car trip but way more fun, smoother, less crowded and with room to stand up. It made me think of trips I was yet to take, places still to discover that were beyond my everyday life. I could get a normal train like I did in Sydney most weekends. Or I could catch a train that looked like THAT.

I've seen the sights in Paris, London, Rome, San Francisco and enjoyed Disneyland in the USA and France, I've ridden the Eurostar and the TGV, the XPT and taken a trip back to the golden age of steam behind the Puffing Billy and #3801. But I regret that I never got to travel long distance on a candy express with the sun setting on the horizon, knowing that I'd wake up on board an awesome looking train, in a city/ town I'd never been before...

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  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
8619, please read the rules for posting, under the help menu. Replying to 9 year old threads is frowned apon. You're new to Railpage, so best to  get up to speed what is ok here.....

For those interested here was the original thread: https://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11318318.htm

I think, like many the colour scheme one likes is often the one we grew up with when young.

Regards,
David Head
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
I was grossly disappointed to see this has nothing to do with the song.

With that said, I hope an 8V is put into preservation with the 4 motor cars as Blue Goose, Candy, Intercity and Intercity Trainlink.
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
That's right there is a song.......

( singing it in my head now, well just the "I.... like candy !" part)

Cheers,
David Head
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
Whoops. Sorry Smile
  steve_w_1990 Junior Train Controller

Location: Trying to fix something on the PTA Network
The candy Scheme looked really good when the locos were outshopped, but the colour seemed to fade really quick from the photos I've seen. The other problem with the candy Colour sceme was the fact that diesel soot, (or dust from pantographs) and red paint don't tend to mix together too well.

The Candy scheme was a livery that was either loved or hated, there was no real middle ground.

I personally haven't found a livery that looks bad on a loco when the locos were all nicely polished and looking their best, but all paint inevitibly fades, and after a few years of no love, the locos, and rolling stock seem to look preety sad.
  Alco_Haulic Chief Commissioner

Location: Eating out...
I must admit as a child the two schemes that stood out and grabbed my attention were Australian National green and gold... And Candy. On locmotives it was good, but not ideal, however it really looked the goods on the XPT. I was always disappointed I never got a Lime model in candy years ago...
  Junction box Chief Commissioner

Location: newy
Weird spoofa thread, yeah candy 421 and 44 were the best paint scheme in the country, annoying how heritage mobs won't do one, maybe one day.
  GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper
I'd like to see a 442 in Candy again.
  gordon_s1942 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Tablelands of NSW
I think you will find that this Blue colour was introduced by Phillip Shirley who was brought back from the UK to be Commissioner and be a 'New Broom' and shake the dust off.
I think he replaced Neil McKusker as Commissioner as he was retiring or his contract had run out.
Phillip Shirley from memory was touted as a 'Manly Boy' who had made good overseas and had been involved in the management of British Rail hence his choice but I never thought he was as good as his publicity claimed.
This colour change affected the Bus's and Ferries along with a new Logo similar to the one used by British Rail.
It didnt take long to realise this colour was not very serviceable particularly on the Ferries where rust is a problem and contrasted to the new livery.
The old Cherry or Tuscan Reds were sort of 'Dirt Proof' and didnt look too bad at a distance but the 'Blues' never looked clean, even after a wash.
  8619 Station Staff

I must admit as a child the two schemes that stood out and grabbed my attention were Australian National green and gold... And Candy. On locmotives it was good, but not ideal, however it really looked the goods on the XPT. I was always disappointed I never got a Lime model in candy years ago...

I have a Lima XPT set (1 power car, 1 dummy car, 2 carriages) that's just sitting in a box. I tried painting one of the locos years ago (unsuccessfully) but if you're skilled at model detailing it'd be easily fixed. PM me if you're interested in buying...
Alco_Haulic

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