Brass Models

 
  conductor 1950 Beginner

I was wondering if any one can tell me the value of some brass kits I acquired
NSWGR HO Class (C) 32
NSWGR HO Class (Z) 13 Tank Loco
NSWGR HO Class (D) 59
NSWGR HO Class (AD 60 Beyer Garrett
thanks
Ron

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You will need to provide more detail. For each model, the manufacturer/importer, 1st, 2nd 3rd run etc, professionally painted, painted or unpainted. And do they run.

Tony

Edit : Just noticed - are these RTR brass or kits. If kits I'm assuming LMR/AR (DJH) Kits and if so you can look at the retail price on the AR Kits website.
  Roachie Chief Commissioner

Location: Kadina SA (formerly NSW)
I was wondering if any one can tell me the value of some brass kits I acquired
NSWGR HO Class (C) 32
NSWGR HO Class (Z) 13 Tank Loco
NSWGR HO Class (D) 59
NSWGR HO Class (AD 60 Beyer Garrett
thanks
Ron
conductor 1950
Ron, Assuming they are from the DJH range of kits, I would imagine they'd be around $400- each for the first 3 you listed and maybe $650- for the 60 class.

These are only ball-park figures. I note that none of those are listed on ARKits website any longer, probably because they are no longer available. However, in view of the availability (2nd hand) of the Trainorama 32 & Eureka 60 class as well as the impending (?) arrival of the Eureka 59, you may find that the kits are not as sought after these days.

Others will, no doubt, have differing opinions.....the above only reflects MY opinion.

Roachie
  bjviper Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisvegas
As has been said, it sounds like they are DJH kits currently sold by AR Kits here - http://www.arkits.com/catalogue/16

Considering they have dropped of the site at AR Kits, this does not bode well for the rest of the range going into the future.  Going by other kits and items that were once part of the Lloyds Model Railways range, which were never restocked once existing supplies were exhausted, and have slowly dropped off the AR Kits website over the past 10 years.
  a6et Minister for Railways

As has been said, it sounds like they are DJH kits currently sold by AR Kits here - http://www.arkits.com/catalogue/16

Considering they have dropped of the site at AR Kits, this does not bode well for the rest of the range going into the future.  Going by other kits and items that were once part of the Lloyds Model Railways range, which were never restocked once existing supplies were exhausted, and have slowly dropped off the AR Kits website over the past 10 years.
bjviper
Talking to Al Cutmore at the brickpit exh just gone, he has had issues with the costs of the kits, much to do with the DJH side of things owing to price hikes.  It has meant a reasonable degree of needing to do some reshuffling of the whole kit manufacturing side of things, something he had mentioned last year at Liverpool as well.

The sorrow is that one direction he was looking at heading has not come through.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Talking to Al Cutmore at the brickpit exh just gone, he has had issues with the costs of the kits, much to do with the DJH side of things owing to price hikes.  It has meant a reasonable degree of needing to do some reshuffling of the whole kit manufacturing side of things, something he had mentioned last year at Liverpool as well.

The sorrow is that one direction he was looking at heading has not come through.
a6et
Al inherited those kits from Lloyd, and they are showing their age. Note that probably the last new DJH kit commissioned for Australia was Wuiskes little steamer. People expect better these days than DJH are providing.
  John_Bushell Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisbane
As an aside I wonder how many untouched or incomplete DJH kits are lying around.  I have to plead guilty to having three.
  brissim Chief Train Controller

As an aside I wonder how many untouched or incomplete DJH kits are lying around.  I have to plead guilty to having three.
John_Bushell
I must admit I'm guilty of that as well with a 55 and 58 Class kit still sitting untouched from when I bought them years ago. I am however making progress having recently completed a 59 Class kit that I had for a few years. As it stands it will be a race to see whether the 55 and 58 can be completed before Eureka gets around to their RTR models.

Tony
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Al inherited those kits from Lloyd, and they are showing their age. Note that probably the last new DJH kit commissioned for Australia was Wuiskes little steamer. People expect better these days than DJH are providing.
TheBlacksmith
Actually DJH have delivered the 60 class in 7mm O scale, and well on the way to supply the 36 class in 7mm O scale.  Both well after the Wuiske A10.

Regards,
David Head
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Yeah, I forgot about those, and that's why I put 'probably' in my statement. Still does not change anything with regard to Lloyd Sawyer's old range of kits though.
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Yeah, I forgot about those, and that's why I put 'probably' in my statement. Still does not change anything with regard to Lloyd Sawyer's old range of kits though.
TheBlacksmith
True, we cannot value those models as mentioned in the first post until we know what they are. And then how to value a  loco kit/kit built.

As to the old range of kits, well if someone is interested, speak to AR Kits.

Regards,
David Head

ps wonder how many A10's go into that O  60class Smile
  a6et Minister for Railways

Al inherited those kits from Lloyd, and they are showing their age. Note that probably the last new DJH kit commissioned for Australia was Wuiskes little steamer. People expect better these days than DJH are providing.
TheBlacksmith
Very true regarding the dated aspect of them, sadly also the price hikes based on what Al has said has come from DJH which is a factored in rise each year has not helped their value either.

One thing though as far as accuracy is concerned & only based on the Newsletter photo, I think the DJH model from Al, is more accurate than the Eureka 50cl model.  Some of them are really unforgivable in this day & age.
  bjviper Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisvegas
I've got 5 DJH kits in the stash waiting to be assembled - 3 x 30T's and one each of 12 and 35class.  It's tempting to swapout the 30T's for the Shrike version, but will wait to see how they are received and perform on the track.  Same goes for the standard goods, either wait 10 years for the Eureka version or find a DJH one second hand...or if your pockets are deep enough a brass version.

But I do agree that the range is rather dated, especially in the chassis area where they are still only half live.  A wiper pickup system on the keeper plate, similar to the SEM loco kits, is much needed for the NSW kits from DJH, and shouldn't be too difficult to include in each kit.
  a6et Minister for Railways

I've got 5 DJH kits in the stash waiting to be assembled - 3 x 30T's and one each of 12 and 35class.  It's tempting to swapout the 30T's for the Shrike version, but will wait to see how they are received and perform on the track.  Same goes for the standard goods, either wait 10 years for the Eureka version or find a DJH one second hand...or if your pockets are deep enough a brass version.

But I do agree that the range is rather dated, especially in the chassis area where they are still only half live.  A wiper pickup system on the keeper plate, similar to the SEM loco kits, is much needed for the NSW kits from DJH, and shouldn't be too difficult to include in each kit.
bjviper
The Shrike model is very nice & the weight seems ok for the type of engine it is, there are likely some areas where there is room to add some lead flashing to increase the weight for improved hauling, if needed.  Also by removing the front bogie spring that usually is a must for any steam RTR model. The 2nd & 3rd driving wheels are actually sprung in order to ensure they stay on the rails to provide hauling power, something needed especially on engines with driving wheels that do not have flanges on them,.

The DJH kit does have its pro's over the Shrike version, but as for the 50cl, well its a different matter.

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