New rail freight terminal opens in western Riverina

 

News article: New rail freight terminal opens in western Riverina

Deputy Premier, Troy Grant, will today open the Western Riverina Intermodal Freight Terminal (WRIFT) at Wumbulgul between Griffith and Leeton in the New South Wales Riverina.

  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Deputy Premier, Troy Grant, will today open the Western Riverina Intermodal Freight Terminal (WRIFT) at Wumbulgul between Griffith and Leeton in the New South Wales Riverina.

The facility is expected to be the eventual home of Patrick's Riverina Freight Terminal in the Griffith CBD.
"New rail freight terminal opens in western Riverina"


Strange decision.  East of Griffith when a lot of produce comes from the west of griffith.  poior road access to the new site.



Makes Victoria's repeated promises for Marong an embarrassment.

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  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Who owns this new terminal ?

You are right in a lot of freight comes from the areas west if Griffith much of which will probably still be loaded at Griffith. The current issues is Griffith is full. No room for extra wagons.

Will this new terminal help the issue of moving cotton on rail to the port of Melbourne ?
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville

Makes Victoria's repeated promises for Marong an embarrassment.
x31
Your constant whingeing is the real embarrassment.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Strange decision.  East of Griffith when a lot of produce comes from the west of griffith.  poior road access to the new site.

x31
That's on the main road between Griffith and Leeton, about mid way between the two towns, not poor road access at all.

The main industrial area where a lot of processing and packing occurs is on the East side on Griffith or in Leeton.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
From what I've heard this is mainly for one particular client at or near Leeton.
  JoppaJunction Chief Train Controller

Location: Banned
From what I've heard this is mainly for one particular client at or near Leeton.
bingley hall

Railpage is really struggling this evening.

BH is this a new client to rail or an existing one?
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Railpage is really struggling this evening.

BH is this a new client to rail or an existing one?
JoppaJunction
Think its an existing rail user. A winemaker?

Current arrangements are too restrictive.
  Lockspike Deputy Commissioner

Griffith Council will be pleased about this. They've been bleating for years about how awful it is having the railway yard in the middle of town, somewhat reminiscent of Wodonga. The present terminal operator (Patricks?) will now be under pressure to move their operation out to Wumbulgal. I guess council will want Griffith yard redeveloped (the cynic in me wonders why [for the benefit of the townspeople, of course!]). Wumbulgal used to be a lonely unattended platform.
  JoppaJunction Chief Train Controller

Location: Banned
Think its an existing rail user. A winemaker?

Current arrangements are too restrictive.
bingley hall

Does the customer have a yellow tail?

Let's hope the rail yard at Griffith is retained to allow a smaller operator to come in to the market.
  a6et Minister for Railways

Griffith Council will be pleased about this. They've been bleating for years about how awful it is having the railway yard in the middle of town, somewhat reminiscent of Wodonga. The present terminal operator (Patricks?) will now be under pressure to move their operation out to Wumbulgal. I guess council will want Griffith yard redeveloped (the cynic in me wonders why [for the benefit of the townspeople, of course!]). Wumbulgal used to be a lonely unattended platform.
Lockspike
Sort of shades of Newcastle & many other locations where rail divides the town, I guess in more ways than one.

Some councils want the rail works out of town, yet refuse to provide any incentives or help in this direction, while others are actually looking at trying to develop rail sites that have been closed for years in an effort to get trucks out of their areas & provide a better option for tourism with the hope of passenger services being restored at the same time.

Some areas also have those who complain about so called train & shunting noises when a freight centre that has been closed for some time is looked at to reopen, the complaints are higher if a newbie buys near the centre, case point Tamworth.

For me, when I looked up the site that this new centre is built on, I had questions, but if its for new business then the sums are likely to have been done, especially if its for bulk products.  If it means road haulage from Griffith & extra costs for road transport to there, it does not make sense, but it could also mean any added costs to road haul to the site rather than in Griffith itself, may mean a shift to full road transport.

Certainly the prospect of a new operation is good news for rail, but early days, even in homework.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me

For me, when I looked up the site that this new centre is built on, I had questions, but if its for new business then the sums are likely to have been done, especially if its for bulk products.  If it means road haulage from Griffith & extra costs for road transport to there, it does not make sense, but it could also mean any added costs to road haul to the site rather than in Griffith itself, may mean a shift to full road transport.

Certainly the prospect of a new operation is good news for rail, but early days, even in homework.
"a6et"


The Winery hinted above is located at Bilbul, which is 12 kms to the east of Griffith rail yards and 19 kms north of the proposed new centre, so there is already a 'road' segment involved. Approximately half of the journey to Griffith is on speed restricted roads (60 and 80 kph), whereas the journey to Wumbulgul is on open rural roads (100kph) so there is no great time penalty there
It will effectively take trucks away from the urban areas of Griffith.

As to the winery, it is rumoured that they will be making substantial investments in machinery to increase their production within the next 24 months.
Freight would not be bulk product as such, it would be in those 20 and 40 foot steel boxes.
  ozfreight Chief Train Controller

Location: hawthorn 3122
The Winery hinted above is located at Bilbul, which is 12 kms to the east of Griffith rail yards and 19 kms north of the proposed new centre, so there is already a 'road' segment involved. Approximately half of the journey to Griffith is on speed restricted roads (60 and 80 kph), whereas the journey to Wumbulgul is on open rural roads (100kph) so there is no great time penalty there
It will effectively take trucks away from the urban areas of Griffith.

As to the winery, it is rumoured that they will be making substantial investments in machinery to increase their production within the next 24 months.
Freight would not be bulk product as such, it would be in those 20 and 40 foot steel boxes.
Pressman
De Bortolli wines
  JoppaJunction Chief Train Controller

Location: Banned
This article over at the ABC may also be of interest as it has an interview with someone from Grain Link which may also have a need for the new terminal.

Comments about rural towns not wanting trucks in their town going to and from rail yards make me laugh.  These are towns which live and breathe on produce and export.  Do they expect the goods to walk themselves to the port?
  a6et Minister for Railways

The Winery hinted above is located at Bilbul, which is 12 kms to the east of Griffith rail yards and 19 kms north of the proposed new centre, so there is already a 'road' segment involved. Approximately half of the journey to Griffith is on speed restricted roads (60 and 80 kph), whereas the journey to Wumbulgul is on open rural roads (100kph) so there is no great time penalty there
It will effectively take trucks away from the urban areas of Griffith.

As to the winery, it is rumoured that they will be making substantial investments in machinery to increase their production within the next 24 months.
Freight would not be bulk product as such, it would be in those 20 and 40 foot steel boxes.
Pressman
Thans for the additional info Pressman.  De Bortoli wines have been in business for a long time & they do have a fair presence in the BB of the country, also they export a reasonable amount as well.

Looking at the map, certainly would remove the trucks away from Griffiths main area while skirting the town on the way.

Question is how big is the freight terminal really & what is envisaged for its future, also impact on the local Griffith rail business?  Any info would be nice.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
De Bortolli wines
"ozfreight"

Not who I was referring to

My bad in my earlier post the winery I mean is closer to Yenda!
  a6et Minister for Railways

This article over at the ABC may also be of interest as it has an interview with someone from Grain Link which may also have a need for the new terminal.

Comments about rural towns not wanting trucks in their town going to and from rail yards make me laugh.  These are towns which live and breathe on produce and export.  Do they expect the goods to walk themselves to the port?
JoppaJunction
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-09/western-riverina-intermodal-freight-terminal/6531016

Is a good listen. It will depend very much on how the rail operators can attract the business & adapt for haulage & if they want it.


The sorrow is with the town complaints its often something thats more a result of the newer generation of people who have moved to the country rather than those who have lived there all their lives, although that is not always the case.  The radio link has the fellow mentioning the aspect that Griffith Council has wanted to get Patricks out of Griffith for some time now, this shows that some councils have certainly changed their views over the years for whatever reason they have.

Most locations that want to be rid of rail & road through their towns, are places where locals primarilly have accepted that their town & way of life is dying, & they seem happy for that, as businesses & close the trucks & trains bypass, & just disturb their rest.  Most who can remember when their towns were busy & full of life, when both road & rail served them well are primarilly gone, those that remain just want their life as it is.  In one sense they are like those who lived outside of towns used to have to travel each week for their main shopping into these now dying clusters, & now they travel many miles to the big towns for their shopping in their 4 wheel drives rather than the humble farm buggy or ute as the local town has no shops except perhaps a service station that has a small stock of neccesities.

Its really a shame when one looks on Google earth to see Griffith, & its an excellent reflection on how freight has been turned away & what is possible to be attracted.  The amount of vacant space between the Temora line & small businesses that could well have easy access onto rail services, also to note the amount of spaces where rail sidings existed & now gone.  Sure we all know how times have changed & businesses need the fast O/night delivery of orders, & general freight means no more than light traffic rather than the heavy bulk products.  

However, in places like Griffith & in other Rural towns & cities around the state, there is enough businesses that are not all in need of the urgent o/night traffic items, many have need of general stocked products that are suitable for the 2-3 day delivery orders which rail could readilly compete in, something that was very much raised during my time on working parties in the 80's & I know enough in business that have similar needs as those back then.

I guess one can dream
  ozfreight Chief Train Controller

Location: hawthorn 3122
well in this case Yenda is the home of Casella wines (Yellow Tail). Both De Bortoli and Casella are major exporters of wine to US and UK and increasingly looking at the potentially enormous markets in Asia , with China at the forefront.

Edward

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