Auscision Models Blog

 
  meh Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney

Artwork for BDY and related wagons added to facebook



Poath Junction
The samples at Thornleigh looked great and it seems as though they are doing plenty of variations on them. Looking forward to seeing further information on them.

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  meh Chief Commissioner
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
Right, then. I wasted some time, did some research and went from knowing nothing about such things to knowing very little.

The ALX/VMBX versions would be the models required as the basis for an AMRZ (those AMRZ that I have seen, anyway). Unfortunately all of the ALX/VMBX models are being produced with fully sheeted sides.

Converting a flute-metal sided ALX/VMBX model would involve:
• disassembling the model
• VERY carefully removing most of the side sheeting including where it is moulded onto the back of the diagonal framing,
• filing the lower and upper decks flat and adding different tyre guides,
• bogie replacement,
• the addition of screen sides and their framing,
• the addition of lots of little wheel bracket holders.

Given how difficult it will be to remove the side sheeting from the framing and how much of the model will need to be discarded I think that a scratch build may very well be a better option.
wagrttn
Will any of the Strath kits be more suitable? Not sure what an AMRZ looks like (old codes?) However Strath make brass kits for at least 4 AN vehicles and another 6 or more VR and NSW Car Carriers.
Might I suggest sales will drop a lot after The Auscision RTR do arrive and Strath may extend their life by selling parts to offset kit losses?


Srath models

Of course enough hints are out there to suggest the missing models are being done by another producer.
And Auscision like to play games. Why are the open sided Victorian carriers missing? Either because of the line above, or they will be unannounced models at higher prices (than pre-order) when they finally get here?
Cheers
Rod

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  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.


All the NODY variations!

Auscision have advised via facebook they'll be doing a re-run of their coil steel loads.
  meh Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
I'd say they'd need to given all the wagons that will soon need loads.

Wonder how their stock of butterboxes is going and if they'll be making more of them also
  QR-INTERAIL Deputy Commissioner

Location: Where else, but Queensland
I don't need any car carriers, but can't wait for Auscision to make an announcement on the road cars to go with them.

Obviously they'll do makes of that era, but I hope to God they also produced later model road cars too!

I've mentioned it here before, but I still find it amazing that the latest Australian car one can get for their layout is the bevan Car of the Year, namely a 1988 VN Commodore!

Here's hoping we see a spread of Falcons some EF/EL, AU, BA and FG's; same with Commodores such as VT, VZ, VE etc. Utes and wagons would be good too!
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.

Order form now available - http://www.auscisionmodels.com.au/PDFs/NODY%20Order%20Form%20Page%202%20-%20Curves.pdf
Product page added - http://www.auscisionmodels.com.au/NODY%20Open%20Wagon.htm
  2LaGrange Train Controller

I don't need any car carriers, but can't wait for Auscision to make an announcement on the road cars to go with them.

Obviously they'll do makes of that era, but I hope to God they also produced later model road cars too!

I've mentioned it here before, but I still find it amazing that the latest Australian car one can get for their layout is the bevan Car of the Year, namely a 1988 VN Commodore!

Here's hoping we see a spread of Falcons some EF/EL, AU, BA and FG's; same with Commodores such as VT, VZ, VE etc. Utes and wagons would be good too!
QR-INTERAIL
I would guess they would only be doing a late 70s/80s Ford and Holden that will suit their car carriers, it would be expensive to tool cars and that's why there arnt many out there, if they were cheap why hasn't everybody already produced 1/87 cars.
You can not charge much for them when you need 8 per wagon so design has to be common to keep costs down. I do not think there would be that many modern modellers out there that would want for example a VE commodore to plonk on their layout.
If we take the overseas experience most stuff is based on the transition era 50s-60s cars and structures, even here in Australia it is always the original as released versions of diesel locos that sell out. That's where the biggest market is and that's what the Manufacturers target.
Awesome to see Auscision do the NODY and all it variants, these wagons are essential for anyone who wants to model a steel train that has run in the last 30 plus years, its going to be a very expensive 6 months me.
  a6et Minister for Railways

I would guess they would only be doing a late 70s/80s Ford and Holden that will suit their car carriers, it would be expensive to tool cars and that's why there arnt many out there, if they were cheap why hasn't everybody already produced 1/87 cars.
You can not charge much for them when you need 8 per wagon so design has to be common to keep costs down. I do not think there would be that many modern modellers out there that would want for example a VE commodore to plonk on their layout.
If we take the overseas experience most stuff is based on the transition era 50s-60s cars and structures, even here in Australia it is always the original as released versions of diesel locos that sell out. That's where the biggest market is and that's what the Manufacturers target.
Awesome to see Auscision do the NODY and all it variants, these wagons are essential for anyone who wants to model a steel train that has run in the last 30 plus years, its going to be a very expensive 6 months me.
2LaGrange
In many respects the major period for car transport was in the 60's & into the 70's at least on the south as there was at least 2 per day each way. Prior to the SG through to Melbourne cars were transhipped at Albury onto flat wagons, bodies were sent in open wagons.

I recently saw a photo of VW's on car carrying wagons, but I never saw them myself.

To load up a train of cars, its not necessary to have something akin to Cooee classics or similar that price around the $20.00+ per car, all that is really needed is some plastic outline type car, that represents the main vehicles that were seen on these trains. They would end up staying on them just like many other wagons are loaded up on layouts & stay that way all the time,

The mid 60's period, had Holdens, Fords, & Valiants as the main vehicles that came into Cooks Creek from the south, occassional wagons headed to Brisbane, but no full train loads of them.
  2LaGrange Train Controller

I was thinking 70s/80s as that covers both 3 and 4 letter codes.
There are already generic plastic blobs in red yellow and blue colours you can get from Athearn or someone like that.
Auscision tend to do detailed models so I don't see them doing a Generic car. I think they will be specific models. Maybe for Example XD falcon 1979-82 which I think had the highest build number for a falcon model ever in Australia (nearly 200 000 cars produced).
With the wagons they are producing the Ford train could be modelled that was a block train from Melbourne to Cooks River.
Very true many makes of cars over the years were transported including Crysler,Leyland,Datsun,Nissan,Toyota,Ford,Holden,Mitsubishi,VW ect.
Will be interesting to see what they end up producing.
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
I was thinking 70s/80s as that covers both 3 and 4 letter codes.
There are already generic plastic blobs in red yellow and blue colours you can get from Athearn or someone like that.
Auscision tend to do detailed models so I don't see them doing a Generic car. I think they will be specific models. Maybe for Example XD falcon 1979-82 which I think had the highest build number for a falcon model ever in Australia (nearly 200 000 cars produced).
With the wagons they are producing the Ford train could be modelled that was a block train from Melbourne to Cooks River.
Very true many makes of cars over the years were transported including Crysler,Leyland,Datsun,Nissan,Toyota,Ford,Holden,Mitsubishi,VW ect.
Will be interesting to see what they end up producing.
2LaGrange
Just noticing that Auscision sell car interiors and loads at about $20 (probably a price rise due?)
A couple of years back I inquired about car carrier loads and was told that two loads could be produced (one for each deck) for under $30 retail. The way they would be done is using new epoxy material which does not shrink. The bottoms would be 4 cars long with clear (Chrystal) car bodies that could mix and match to offer variation. The clear bodies would be pad painted 5 different colours, with detail also painted/added on. The 3D samples I was shown looked the part. The load simply slid into the wagon. The wheel chocks were molded in place. The bases were designed to take all body types. So if you did sedan, station wagon, ute and p/van in say 5 colours, you would have a realistic train load. The windows would even have the paperwork attached front and side.  If you wanted to use the cars on roads, simply trim the cars apart . For those who thought the linked base was too visible, even though the cars were only a few mm's apart, they could also be loaded individually after trimming the connections. Extra work could be undertaken, matching the colour of the interiors to the cars and painting the joining pieces. The bases would represent the station wagon, which would not interfere with the sedan and p/van. However you simply trim the rear seat away to allow the ute body to sit down.
So it can be done, and it wasn't done that time, because we were told someone was already planning to do auto loads for Australia. (And of course I was loathe to risk my very limited money just because I had 15 Strath car carriers to populate)
Cheers
Rod
  wagrttn Locomotive Driver

Will any of the Strath kits be more suitable? Not sure what an AMRZ looks like (old codes?)




I'm pretty sure that the AMRZ were once AMBP (as per the Strath kit pictured). The Strath kit should be spot on except for the required addition of the mesh sides and associated framing. The mesh would be difficult, but perhaps not impossible, to model convincingly. I believe that the Strath kits are very well done but I have yet to part with the money 'cos I just know that an RTR model will be announced as soon as I do. However, if Strath were to depict a current day AMRZ with no additions required by me then I would buy a couple because I think such a model would perhaps be beyond the capabilities of mass production RTR.


Of course enough hints are out there to suggest the missing models are being done by another producer.

So I have been told, but I mustn't be very observant.

Thanks for the post.
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
Here is a Robert Wilson picture that arrived in my email today. Trust Robert to come up with something that was on my mind Wink
Taken in 1977 0n October 29 with C505 running an Adelaide Jet.

This is what the older modellers are remembering how the car carriers were utilized in those days.

Notice how the colours and the body styles are randomised. How they sit almost bumper to bumper.

Who remembers vinyl roofs? Two tone paint and the very first metallic paints that started to emerge , but only on Premier's and Fairmont's.

Thanks for the photo Bob Very Happy

  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
What ever happened to the Auscision Steam Engine hint several months back? Was it just a smoke screen?
All I heard was that it might have been a VR engine, possibly a D3 or A2?  But the D3 is from another so as strong rumours persist the A2 is being done and its not supposed to be the long winded Eureka one Wink
So the question is do we think Auscision intend adding steam into their mix?
Cheers
Rod
  Bills_Billboards Chief Commissioner

Here is a Robert Wilson picture that arrived in my email today. Trust Robert to come up with something that was on my mind Wink
Taken in 1977 0n October 29 with C505 running an Adelaide Jet.

This is what the older modellers are remembering how the car carriers were utilized in those days.

Notice how the colours and the body styles are randomised. How they sit almost bumper to bumper.

Who remembers vinyl roofs? Two tone paint and the very first metallic paints that started to emerge , but only on Premier's and Fairmont's.


Thanks for the photo Bob Very Happy

Maybe on Holden Premiers but Fords had metallic paint in the normal Falcon range from 1964 XM , i know this because i own one Wink


comtrain
  jamiepb Junior Train Controller

The last proper car. The Mighty XC.
  John_Bushell Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisbane
What ever happened to the Auscision Steam Engine hint several months back? Was it just a smoke screen?
All I heard was that it might have been a VR engine, possibly a D3 or A2?  But the D3 is from another so as strong rumours persist the A2 is being done and its not supposed to be the long winded Eureka one Wink
So the question is do we think Auscision intend adding steam into their mix?
Cheers
Rod
comtrain
Rod,

I think they went the way of the MLV NSWGR louvre vans they indicated at one stage they would do.  Not popular with their fan club.  For that reason I have doubts they would ever produce a steam locomotive.

Rgds,
John
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.

O scale 45 class now available to order.
  John_Bushell Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisbane
Do you all know Sergeant Small?  Lyrics are here: http://http://www.metrolyrics.com/sergeant-small-lyrics-weddings-parties-anything.html

Along those lines:

I wish I was about 30 year old and just a millionaire,
I would contact those buggers Pete 'n Jason and order a forty five.

Apologies. Not very good doggerel, but I'm too old and too poor to start in O gauge.

John
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
Do you all know Sergeant Small?  Lyrics are here: http://http://www.metrolyrics.com/sergeant-small-lyrics-weddings-parties-anything.html

Along those lines:

I wish I was about 30 year old and just a millionaire,
I would contact those buggers Pete 'n Jason and order a forty five.

Apologies. Not very good doggerel, but I'm too old and too poor to start in O gauge.

John
John_Bushell
Hey John,
your right, but I am happy for those who can.
I thought the obvious way forward for Auscision would have been into N scale?   I note both Athearn and Broadway Limited have turned their vision into N in recent times.
Rod
  Fairlight Station Master

Location: Always watching....
I was assuming that Auscision might engage in the C38 as its O Gauge project was out there - made sense to follow suit. And that the Eureka project had such a luke-warm reception and the big delays for a rerun ex the factory - the makings were all there for a trump release.....
Also there seems to be a pattern with the 49/45 already done in O that it might be more likely....

Oh well - just see what happens.


Also need to know when that V Set order sheet will be out - looks like they are expecting a JUL16 release.
  a6et Minister for Railways

I was assuming that Auscision might engage in the C38 as its O Gauge project was out there - made sense to follow suit. And that the Eureka project had such a luke-warm reception and the big delays for a rerun ex the factory - the makings were all there for a trump release.....
Also there seems to be a pattern with the 49/45 already done in O that it might be more likely....

Oh well - just see what happens.


Also need to know when that V Set order sheet will be out - looks like they are expecting a JUL16 release.
Fairlight
For me doing a proper 38cl is a no brainer & after the release of the Eureka models it made just as much sense, it is no different.
  brissim Chief Train Controller

Can't see Auscision doing an O scale model of the C38 given that PSM already have that covered.

Tony
  Fairlight Station Master

Location: Always watching....
Was'nt there a O Scale 38 on display in their cabinet in 2014? Pretty sure I saw one....
  Fairlight Station Master

Location: Always watching....
Was'nt there a O Scale 38 on display in their cabinet in 2014? Pretty sure I saw one....

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