ABC the Q&A Programme on 22/6

 
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Pedantry won't let you squirm your way out of that one sweetcheeks.
bingley hall
Hmm, you seem to have a fixation on them??

Anyhow, it amply demonstrates that as a 'journo' you have the same inability to quote accurately.

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  Alco_Haulic Chief Commissioner

Location: Eating out...
No Rolling Eyes It was reflection on democracy IN GENERAL!!!!!
Groundrelay


Sorry, read that comment in the wrong mindset.

Democracy is very much 'in your face' because people you don't like have the same rights regardless of religion, race, economic standing, social ranking or political values. Germany and Italy are two examples where people gave away democracy to protect themselves from threats, real or imagined. Maybe that was an historic aberration?

This has nothing to do with Q&A or one particularly small-minded tightRsed ratbag appearing of TV. It's about shutting down anyone's opinions that are in-Abbott's-face.

The cynical use of fear, bigotry and nationalism for political advantage is tried and proven and this lot are taking it to new lows.
Groundrelay
And I will agree with that last statement, especially as details of the FTA with China are coming to light, as well as all the secrecy around the TPP.

I guess part of my problem is the fact I look at issues from multiple angles before deciding my own position. Hence I can see the virtue of dictatorships, however democracy has benefits in theory of being representative of citizens desires. It has however become a corrupt institution where only those who will suck up to those with money stand a chance of lying to the public. Not to mention the manipulation these days to prevent any dissenting voice.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
...I guess part of my problem is the fact I look at issues from multiple angles before deciding my own position. Hence I can see the virtue of dictatorships, however democracy has benefits in theory of being representative of citizens desires. It has however become a corrupt institution where only those who will suck up to those with money stand a chance of lying to the public. Not to mention the manipulation these days to prevent any dissenting voice.
Alco_Haulic

Democracy is hard work. It challenges our sensitivities and personal values every day.
History has shown that people give away freedoms to someone who purports to protect their sensitivities and personal values without regard for who it impacts.

Abbott and his powerful supporters seem quite willing to go down a 'McCarthyist" path. Anyone daring to say "excuse me" is attacked as an enemy of the state.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Hmm, you seem to have a fixation on them??

Anyhow, it amply demonstrates that as a 'journo' you have the same inability to quote accurately.
TheBlacksmith

Still playing the man and not the ball.

Regardless of the exact wording, the comrades find you guilty as charged - repetitive and boring.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Still playing the man and not the ball.
bingley hall
Oh dear, such hypocrisy, that is exactly how this little feud got going, by you doing exactly that.

I found this definition on-line of sweetcheeks: 'usually a name given by gang-banging jail inmates to tiny inmates made into their bitches'

What does that say about the person using the phrase?

Or are you just being playful?
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
I found this definition on-line of sweetcheeks: 'usually a name given by gang-banging jail inmates to tiny inmates made into their bitches'

What does that say about the person using the phrase?

Or are you just being playful?
TheBlacksmith
The reference to "Sweetcheeks" comes from the latest Road Safety TV ads from the Motor Accident Commission of South Australia, Titled "Keep the Bromance Alive"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcHxmzAg9us

***Warning*** Do Not click link if you can't appreciate phrases like "Sweetcheeks", "Sugarplum", Schnookums", "Honeybuns", "Pumpkin", "Cupcake" "Lambchop"
  JoppaJunction Chief Train Controller

Location: Banned
Q&A tonight will not have Barnaby Joyce he has been told by Adolf Abbott not to attend the programme
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

If unions can have work bans, politicians can do the same.

But then Q&A becomes more of a Leftist echo chamber than ever before.

All things considered I reckon the Murdoch press has swung more to the right, the Fairfax press has swung more to the left to the point of being a bunch of angry Marxists spouting tabloid headlines, and the ABC have generally continued to steadily occupy a more moderate Centre-Left position within the mass-media political spectrum.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Q&A tonight will not have Barnaby Joyce he has been told by Adolf Abbott not to attend the programme
JoppaJunction
But let us have a look at what Barnaby Joyce did in his most notable media exposure of recent times:
  • jeopardising the film industry in Queensland
  • picking a fight with Kyle Sandilands
  • showing a disturbingly detailed knowledge of the winners of Sexiest Man Alive

With these in mind, the Prime Minister should be looking for every possible reason to keep Barnaby Joyce away from the media.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
That is a shame as Joyce on the programme would have lead to some great TV!
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
A few things that Abbott might care to think about.
1. He's not improving relations with the ABC by carping and banning MP's from appearing.
2. I'd rather have Zaky Mallah sounding off on a public forum where he can be taken to task, instead of sh1t-stirring to impressionable youths somewhere else. It's much better to have him in the tent piddling out, rather than outside piddling in.
3. I don't recall any huge protest when, for example, Chopper Read, a former convict with a violent record, appeared. Selective indignation is apparently alive and well. If you're legally free to walk the streets, you are free to speak in public (unless you have a different viewpoint from Little Tony it would seem.)
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

That is a shame as Joyce on the programme would have lead to some great TV!
x31
Indeed. Alas, the Prime Minister is the Prime Minister and not the Executive Producer of Q&A - or a program on a commercial network where the ratings actually matter.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
...
But then Q&A becomes more of a Leftist echo chamber than ever before.

All things considered I reckon the Murdoch press has swung more to the right, the Fairfax press has swung more to the left to the point of being a bunch of angry Marxists spouting tabloid headlines, and the ABC have generally continued to steadily occupy a more moderate Centre-Left position within the mass-media political spectrum.
Carnot

These days a leftie is anyone not goosestepping with the fascist side of politics (or religion).

Q&A tonight will not have Barnaby Joyce he has been told by Adolf Abbott not to attend the programme
JoppaJunction

In true dictatorial fashion.
Abbott won’t let this go either, given he has a particularly vindictive nature when it comes to criticism. At the same time he’ll protect the fascist media's right to 'free speech' because they'll always blow sunshine up his tightRse.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
Someone will have a problem with that cat  Very Happy

  billybaxter Deputy Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
...... he’ll protect the fascist media's right to 'free speech' .....
Groundrelay

Ha! These Capitalist Roaders need a Struggle Session!
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Ha! These Capitalist Roaders need a Struggle Session!
billybaxter
Coming right up...

Incidentally did anyone see Gina Rinehart on Australian Story last night? Anyone would think she was a single mum from Struggle Street the way she banged on about her 'tough times'.

Like other members of the plutocracy (Tony and Joe), she's spent so long in the company of other rich people she has no concept at all of what it means to be disadvantaged or poor.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
Oh dear. Abbott's got another dissident to deal with. Smile

"The man chosen to conduct an independent audit of Q&A, television veteran Ray Martin, says he cannot believe Prime Minister Tony Abbott has ordered his frontbenchers not to appear on the ABC program until his inquiry is complete.

As well as decrying the government's Q&A boycott as "silly", Martin said he believes Q&A host Tony Jones was as tough on the previous Labor government as the Coalition.

Martin said some of the "rants and raves" about the program had been "crazy" and that he hoped his audit would bring some balance to the debate.

"A Bex and a good lie down might help at the moment," he said."

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/qa-auditor-ray-martin-derides-tony-abbotts-silly-frontbench-boycott-20150707-gi6lal.html
  CraigW Assistant Commissioner


"The man chosen to conduct an independent audit of Q&A, television veteran Ray Martin, says he cannot believe Prime Minister Tony Abbott has ordered his frontbenchers not to appear on the ABC program until his inquiry is complete.

As well as decrying the government's Q&A boycott as "silly", Martin said he believes Q&A host Tony Jones was as tough on the previous Labor government as the Coalition.

Martin said some of the "rants and raves" about the program had been "crazy" and that he hoped his audit would bring some balance to the debate.

"A Bex and a good lie down might help at the moment," he said."

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/qa-auditor-ray-martin-derides-tony-abbotts-silly-frontbench-boycott-20150707-gi6lal.html
Groundrelay
Well, the old saying goes ..."never hold an inquiry unless you know what the outcome will be"

Craig W
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Ooh! That's not going to get young Ray any Brownie Points from Tone and Joey and Scotty and the boys, is it?
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy

Oh dear. Abbott's got another dissident to deal with. https://www.railpage.com.au/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif
"The man chosen to conduct an independent audit of Q&A, television veteran Ray Martin, says he cannot believe Prime Minister Tony Abbott has ordered his frontbenchers not to appear on the ABC program until his inquiry is complete.
As well as decrying the government's Q&A boycott as "silly", Martin said he believes Q&A host Tony Jones was as tough on the previous Labor government as the Coalition.
Martin said some of the "rants and raves" about the program had been "crazy" and that he hoped his audit would bring some balance to the debate.
"A Bex and a good lie down might help at the moment," he said."
"Groundrelay"

And the inevitable has happened. Coalition Senators James McGrath and Ian Macdonald have Ray Martin under fire. McGrath:" I think he should step aside. His comments make him appear an apologist for Q & A rather than someone who will conduct an independent review."
Translation: 'he doesn't agree with what we do therefore he must be biased, because it's impossible for us to be wrong. We are born to rule and are infallible.'
Senators, it's just a teeny bit possible that people of goodwill think the government's actions are stupid. It could be an advantage for you to consider this ghastly possibility.
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
And the inevitable has happened. Coalition Senators James McGrath and Ian Macdonald have Ray Martin under fire. McGrath:" I think he should step aside. His comments make him appear an apologist for Q & A rather than someone who will conduct an independent review."
Translation: 'he doesn't agree with what we do therefore he must be biased, because it's impossible for us to be wrong. We are born to rule and are infallible.'
Senators, it's just a teeny bit possible that people of goodwill think the government's actions are stupid. It could be an advantage for you to consider this ghastly possibility.
Valvegear
Or maybe you don't say that the ABC is not bias before you conduct the investigation to see if it is bias.
Another case of holding an enquiry when you already know what the result will be???
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Another case of holding an enquiry when you already know what the result will be???
"Donald"
Well, a couple of Coalition senators seem to know what the result will be and they don't like it. I think, like most responsible people, I'll wait to see what Ray Martin comes up with.

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