42300 to Saudi Arabia

 
  jmt Deputy Commissioner

Vessel ICS Silver Lining currently heading into Port Pirie, from Whyalla anchorage

http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:365211/mmsi:305593000/imo:9314351/vessel:ICS_SILVER_LINING

Due to load 42304, 42305, a Plasser track machine with 15 x CHOY ballast hoppers, and 15 x CQAX 85ft flats

Reputedly for Saudi Arabia, but the destination port will be listed on above site, once the vessel has sailed

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  NSWGR8022 Chief Train Controller

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
Hi. Is this a sale or a lease?
  djukinX1016 Deputy Commissioner

I wonder if the CHOY's were the ones recently transferred from W.A.?

If so they have got around, being worked on ballast trains on the standard gauge in Perth, in the Pilbara on FMG and then fitted with NG bogies for the Midwest Rail project in the Geraldton area.
Regards
Phil
  M636C Minister for Railways

I wonder if the CHOY's were the ones recently transferred from W.A.?

If so they have got around, being worked on ballast trains on the standard gauge in Perth, in the Pilbara on FMG and then fitted with NG bogies for the Midwest Rail project in the Geraldton area.
Regards
Phil
djukinX1016
I photographed four of the CHOYs in Goulburn North Yard on 5 July.

These had been repainted yellow with CFCLA logos removed.

The ones I shot were 6035, 6038, 6040 and 6041.

Don't forget that they were built and used by VR as ballast wagons before being rebuilt by GEMCO in Forrestfield...

42305 was stored in the south yard with the logos removed.

M636C
  JoppaJunction Chief Train Controller

Location: Banned
I photographed four of the CHOYs in Goulburn North Yard on 5 July.

These had been repainted yellow with CFCLA logos removed.

The ones I shot were 6035, 6038, 6040 and 6041.

M636C

Are you able to post a few pics here so we can get an idea please?
  djukinX1016 Deputy Commissioner

Thanks for the CHOY numbers, they are different to the W.A. set of CHOY's that headed east.
Regards
Phil
  alfclp Train Controller

The ship to be used is NOT the ICS Silver Lining
  jmt Deputy Commissioner

The ship to be used is NOT the ICS Silver Lining
alfclp
Sorry, can only track vessels if they have their GPS transponders turned on

The BBC Steinwall arrived in Port Pirie overnight, must have turned on transponder when it arrived in port, no indication yesterday that it was in the Gulf

Scuttlebutt in Pirie last Friday was loading mid week, at the time I posted yesterday the ICS Silver Lining only ship in port (plus has 2 x 80 tonne cranes) so also a heavy lift. Live map indicates BBC Steinwall berthed at wharf with track access
  ssaunders Train Controller

Sorry, can only track vessels if they have their GPS transponders turned on

The BBC Steinwall arrived in Port Pirie overnight, must have turned on transponder when it arrived in port, no indication yesterday that it was in the Gulf

Scuttlebutt in Pirie last Friday was loading mid week, at the time I posted yesterday the ICS Silver Lining only ship in port (plus has 2 x 80 tonne cranes) so also a heavy lift. Live map indicates BBC Steinwall berthed at wharf with track access
jmt

The Steinwall is correct, loading to commence ASAP and will head direct to Saudi. The track on the dock is booked out of service, everything will be road hauled to the ship and ship cranes will load.

ss
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Sorry, can only track vessels if they have their GPS transponders turned on

The BBC Steinwall arrived in Port Pirie overnight, must have turned on transponder when it arrived in port, no indication yesterday that it was in the Gulf

Scuttlebutt in Pirie last Friday was loading mid week, at the time I posted yesterday the ICS Silver Lining only ship in port (plus has 2 x 80 tonne cranes) so also a heavy lift. Live map indicates BBC Steinwall berthed at wharf with track access

The Steinwall is correct, loading to commence ASAP and will head direct to Saudi. The track on the dock is booked out of service, everything will be road hauled to the ship and ship cranes will load.

ss
ssaunders

Which dock?  Can you provide a google map reference please?
  jmt Deputy Commissioner

better to use this site http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:30/centery:25/zoom:2

Zoom in on Port Pirie

Vessel position is plotted using GPS transponder data
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Cheers for the link. Why would the line be booked out has traffic to that dock ceased?
  ssaunders Train Controller

Cheers for the link. Why would the line be booked out has traffic to that dock ceased?
x31

Don't know reasons. The new loco/wagon owners did offer to repair as a more cost effective option as the ship has it's own lift capability, but rejected by SA Ports.

Would mean South Australia probably not high on the list for any further exports.

ss
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Don't know reasons. The new loco/wagon owners did offer to repair as a more cost effective option as the ship has it's own lift capability, but rejected by SA Ports.

Would mean South Australia probably not high on the list for any further exports.

ss
ssaunders

Must look terrible to businesses from overseas wanting to do business in SA.
  ssaunders Train Controller

Must look terrible to businesses from overseas wanting to do business in SA.
x31

The Aust shipping agent for this based in Qld has said the east coast is much easier for the export business. So there is your answer of sorts.

ss
  M636C Minister for Railways

Are you able to post a few pics here so we can get an idea please?
"JoppaJunction"


This is the official plan and photo...

http://www.cfcla.com.au/datasheet/CHOY_Wagon_Data_Sheet.pdf

They looked just like that with the CF logo painted over in yellow..

M636C
  jmt Deputy Commissioner

Yards/lines at Port Pirie are owned by GWA, line within the wharf area probably Flinders Ports (or may even be the Smelters). Hard to ascertain who owns what, as the smelter is built on the waterfront. The whole area is behind razor wire
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
The Aust shipping agent for this based in Qld has said the east coast is much easier for the export business. So there is your answer of sorts.

ss
ssaunders

I don't dispute that with key track to the port out of action.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Cheers for the link. Why would the line be booked out has traffic to that dock ceased?
x31
The tracks on the dockside at Port Pirie probably haven't seen any traffic in 20 plus years.
I would doubt if they have had any maintenance in that time and quite possibly are "cut off" from the line to the Smelter works.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
I'm intrigued by the use of "42300" in the thread title as this is neither the number of a locomotive nor the class designation. The locomotives mentioned in the opening post are 423 Class locomotives.

Are the rest of the 423 Class still in service?
  Alco_Haulic Chief Commissioner

Location: Eating out...
According to Flinders Ports, http://portmis.flindersports.com.au/# the BBCSteinwall is in Port Pirie berth 5. Using Google Earth, and street view, it would appear that the track is still connected to the network, however the track inset in the wharf may be seriously deteriorated.

It is currently listed as departing on the 19-7-2015 at 07:00 - Destination is listed as Durban.
  jmt Deputy Commissioner

Would mean South Australia probably not high on the list for any further exports.

ss

The Aust shipping agent for this based in Qld has said the east coast is much easier for the export business. So there is your answer of sorts.

ssssaunders
ssaunders
A very strange comment considering that the BBC Steinwall is currently berthed at Fisherman Islands

There must have been a cost advantage to drag the units to Port Pirie?

Does anyone know if she is loading additional rolling stock in Brisbane?
  ssaunders Train Controller

Other customers.
ss
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Must look terrible to businesses from overseas wanting to do business in SA.
x31
If its so terrible, why did they drag them all the way from Goulburn to Pirie instead of taking them to Newcastle. What does that say about the ports in NSW (for the pedants the real answer is 'nothing')

God you talk some bollocks.
  Alco_Haulic Chief Commissioner

Location: Eating out...
If its so terrible, why did they drag them all the way from Goulburn to Pirie instead of taking them to Newcastle. What does that say about the ports in NSW (for the pedants the real answer is 'nothing')

God you talk some bollocks.
bingley hall
Given they were loaded at a site that is amazingly under-utilised, I'd say they did it because it was cheap. I've heard that as being one of the factors behind containers being exported through Outer Harbour instead of railing to Melbourne from Mildura.

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