I have a question about the pox boxes. Where are the engines in these exactly? I've noticed that it's louder in some positions than the others, but nonetheless, I'm curious to know.
Any detailed info would be appreciated.
Thanks
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I have a question about the pox boxes. Where are the engines in these exactly? I've noticed that it's louder in some positions than the others, but nonetheless, I'm curious to know.
Any detailed info would be appreciated.
Thanks
As an aside, it seems unlikely now that any 3000's will be converted to operate exclusively on overhead power - or is that still on the cards?
As an aside, it seems unlikely now that any 3000's will be converted to operate exclusively on overhead power - or is that still on the cards?I imagine that it will be back on the agenda some time next year.
That is still on the cards as once the Gawler Line is electrified there will be a push to electrify as it is cheaper to run and maintain.Do you have access to a cost analysis which shows that it would be a viable project, i.e. that the savings made would recover the full cost of the capital expenditure including interest repayments?
From what has been made available about these cars is that essentially they are an electric car but have there own power source on board the diesel motor and generator. Changing them to full electric was designed into them so it is virtually just a matter of dropping out the motor and generator sets along with the fuel tanks and radiators etc and putting in replacement transformers or what ever to operate in full electric mode as well as adding a pantograph to the roof. Well that is what the two manufacturer's stated about these cars anyway when they were ordered.DP, please stop pedalling this furphy, they share a common body shell with the Melbourne electrics but they weren't designed for nor built for conversion to EMU's.
All of the A-City units have now arrived and should be commissioned into service within a few weeks. Once all of the remedial work on the A-City fleet (upgrade to the current version with stable flooring, quiet air conditioning, quieter horn that can only be heard three suburbs away, and the ETCS kit) is closer to completion we can expect to hear Bombardier making noises about job losses and keeping skilled workers employed.They are very busy at Dandenong apparently with the E-class trams and extra centre carriages for Vlocity but I'm sure they will be trying to persuade the SA DoT to buy more A-City. Perhaps our new clean 'n green PM will come to the rescue with his agenda for public transport - as spelled out in the media this week.
The best way to turn a poxbox into a spark is as hosk states. Send the poxes to Sims, buy the materials back and build sparks from the recycled pox material.IN all seriousness would stripping the diesel plant and conversion to overhead AC power cost that much? More than replacement cost with a new A-City per carriage?
The costs you're looking at for a rebuild (not a 'conversion' as such) would be...The best way to turn a poxbox into a spark is as hosk states. Send the poxes to Sims, buy the materials back and build sparks from the recycled pox material.IN all seriousness would stripping the diesel plant and conversion to overhead AC power cost that much? More than replacement cost with a new A-City per carriage?
There's no reason that future EMU orders would necessarily need to have the body shells and assembly done in Melbourne.All of the A-City units have now arrived and should be commissioned into service within a few weeks. Once all of the remedial work on the A-City fleet (upgrade to the current version with stable flooring, quiet air conditioning, quieter horn that can only be heard three suburbs away, and the ETCS kit) is closer to completion we can expect to hear Bombardier making noises about job losses and keeping skilled workers employed.They are very busy at Dandenong apparently with the E-class trams and extra centre carriages for Vlocity but I'm sure they will be trying to persuade the SA DoT to buy more A-City. Perhaps our new clean 'n green PM will come to the rescue with his agenda for public transport - as spelled out in the media this week.
Exactly.The 3000s belong on the scrapheap.What's with the 3000 hate. Sure they are boring but as a DEMU do they not suit the needs of the network. I think they do. No need to spend the money replacing something that isn't broken.![]()
As long as they don't end up going with two completely different manufacturers/train types like the Melbourne disaster of Siemens/Alstom with the trains and Siemens/Alstom and (now) Bombardier with the trams. Although maybe it could end up being one of those funny Adelaide oddities where every line has a different type of train...So long as the specifications are done right, there's no problem with getting trains from different manufacturers to talk to each other. It's an excellent chance to go one up on the Vics who couldn't get it right!
What Furphy Mr Hoskins they are essentially an electric railcar that for the time being that has to have its own Diesel generator under the floor. Everything nearly on the cars in the way of propulsion is by electrical means using a Reliance Alternator SDGB3107-4, 400Kva, 660V through a Stromberg type 5775974-7 transmission/rectifier Inverter unit, traction power 320Kw, Braking power 720Kw.From what has been made available about these cars is that essentially they are an electric car but have there own power source on board the diesel motor and generator. Changing them to full electric was designed into them so it is virtually just a matter of dropping out the motor and generator sets along with the fuel tanks and radiators etc and putting in replacement transformers or what ever to operate in full electric mode as well as adding a pantograph to the roof. Well that is what the two manufacturer's stated about these cars anyway when they were ordered.DP, please stop pedalling this furphy, they share a common body shell with the Melbourne electrics but they weren't designed for nor built for conversion to EMU's.
Sure they could be converted, just like you could convert a Jumbo or a 900 class diesel, but at great effort and expense.
Wayne
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