Buildings torched in riot following detainee's death; claims guards have left detention centre; Immigration confirms 'disturbance'

 
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
A man being held inside the Christmas Island Detention Centre says detainees have set fire to the complex and taken control in the wake of the death of an escapee over the weekend.

The Immigration Department has confirmed an ongoing "disturbance" at the Christmas Island detention centre following the death of Iranian Kurdish refugee Fazal Chegeni, whose body was found at the base of a cliff yesterday.
Mr Chegeni's death is being investigated by Australian Federal Police.

There are reports guards have abandoned the detention centre and fences have been torn down.
Twenty-five year-old detainee Matej Cuperka told the ABC ex-convicts who had their Australian visas cancelled after serving time in jail started the riot.

"The death (of the Iranian man) is very, very suspicious," he said.

"They [the inmates who are rioting] believe Serco officers did something to him.

"I clearly heard him in the morning screaming for help, and the next thing I see they be bringing him in a body bag, and after that the whole place went into lockdown.


"About 30 people started a fight with the emergency response team in front of the medical [clinic] where officers left their stations and put the place in lockdown."

[color=#000000][size=1]PHOTO:[/size][/color] The body of Iranian Kurdish refugee Fazal Chegeni was found on Saturday. (AAP)
"They are setting fires everywhere," Mr Cuperka added.

"They started last night. They have broken into the canteen, into the property area, they started fires over there and now they starting in the compound.

"There are cars full of officers driving around the complex. They are just having a look through the window, but nobody is helping us. I want to get out of here. Get me somewhere safe please."

Another detainee, who stressed that he had not been involved in the riots, said "most of the compounds have actually been broken into, including the medical [compound]".

"The canteen, I can see from where I'm standing now, has been completely ransacked and is burning as I speak to you.
"It's a complete disaster zone.

"The compound that I'm in ... there's a lot of spot fires in there, all the cameras have been smashed up, all the kitchen has been smashed up, the offices have been breached and all the computers and everything has been broken up."

The Immigration Department said the camp's perimeter had not been breached and "the Department and its service providers are working together to resolve the situation".

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  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Time to send those involved back from where they came. If they can do this in a detention centre when what guarantees do the people of Australia have if they were to enter the general population?
  NSWGR8022 Chief Train Controller

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
Time to send those involved back from where they came. If they can do this in a detention centre when what guarantees do the people of Australia have if they were to enter the general population?
x31

These people have no shame or respect and want to come to our country get lost.

You arrive illegally and then burn down our public property and complain you cannot get a visa and residency?  I suppose they will now be charged and have to wait years at the tax payers expense for a trial only to tell the judge they were abused as children and will be much better people if they are allowed to roam the country with a visa.

Fed up!
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Time to send those involved back from where they came. If they can do this in a detention centre when what guarantees do the people of Australia have if they were to enter the general population?
x31
You're talking about the Serco guards here I take it Razz
  STAchoochoo Beginner

Yeah but they didn't arrive illegally did they? It is perfectly legal to seek asylum.
Do you only look at Riot and deem them to have no shame? I wonder what caused this, from all available evidence the offshore processing is a horrible way to treat people and thinking what some (not all I'll concede) have gone through then you can start to understand why these people feel the need to do this, I don't excuse the riot but I can at least understand why it's happening.


Time to send those involved back from where they came. If they can do this in a detention centre when what guarantees do the people of Australia have if they were to enter the general population? x31 These people have no shame or respect and want to come to our country get lost. You arrive illegally and then burn down our public property and complain you cannot get a visa and residency? I suppose they will now be charged and have to wait years at the tax payers expense for a trial only to tell the judge they were abused as children and will be much better people if they are allowed to roam the country with a visa. Fed up!
NSWGR8022
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The majority of "inmates" at Christmas Island are criminals who are in the process of being deported for crimes in Australia.  The bulk are from New Zealand.  

One such Italian chap committed murder.  He is waiting deportation to Italy.  He is complaining about having to go back to Italy. (reference ABC News)

It is worse than Mos Eisley Spaceport in there.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoRPVsN2SVM

What is bad is having illegals waiting for their application to be heard who are now mixing with the villainy.
  allan Chief Commissioner

Yes, we now have a criminal justice system that imposes different sentences on selected groups, though this is not entirely new (look at the rate of incarceration of Australian aborigines). The process of exiling time-served crims where possible is morally reprehensible.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Yes, we now have a criminal justice system that imposes different sentences on selected groups, though this is not entirely new (look at the rate of incarceration of Australian aborigines). The process of exiling time-served crims where possible is morally reprehensible.
allan
You should be made aware that in Australia (as in most countries), abiding by the law is a condition required of non-citizens for them to remain in the country.  It is quite right that privileges and responsibilities go hand in hand.

There is course a quite generous exception applied which most other countries would not have - did you know that kiwi criminals are automatically allowed to come back again and resume breaking our laws if they can manage a couple of years living on the straight and narrow back home?
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
There is course a quite generous exception applied which most other countries would not have - did you know that kiwi criminals are automatically allowed to come back again and resume breaking our laws if they can manage a couple of years living on the straight and narrow back home?
justapassenger
All part of the cunning Enzed plan to occupy Australia by stealth.
  Brianr Assistant Commissioner

Location: Dunedin, New Zealand
Yes, we now have a criminal justice system that imposes different sentences on selected groups, though this is not entirely new (look at the rate of incarceration of Australian aborigines). The process of exiling time-served crims where possible is morally reprehensible.
You should be made aware that in Australia (as in most countries), abiding by the law is a condition required of non-citizens for them to remain in the country.  It is quite right that privileges and responsibilities go hand in hand.

There is course a quite generous exception applied which most other countries would not have - did you know that kiwi criminals are automatically allowed to come back again and resume breaking our laws if they can manage a couple of years living on the straight and narrow back home?
justapassenger
I am daily embarrassed as an Australian, resident in New Zealand. There are now headlines that a decorated Kiwi soldier has been imprisoned merely for being a member of the Rebel Motor cycle gang. He has no criminal convictions. Others have lived nearly all their lives in Australia so any criminality can be blamed on their upbringing in Australia rather than their NZ birth. How can we expect them to be rehabilitated if they are cut off from all family support?
Of course they should have taken Aussie citizenship but until 2002 they would have had to relinquish NZ citizenship, not so easy and Australian citizenship is difficult to obtain. I have friends, whose son has lived about 20 years in Queensland, his children are Australians but although he has worked his whole life there as a postman and paid his taxes, that is not a job favoured by the immigration department for citizenship.

I fell in love with NZ in my 20's but due to career and family ties, waited until I was 65 to move here. I was given an age pension backdated to the day I arrived. Centrelink sends my Aussie pension to NZ but it is less due to the Assets test. All Kiwis (and permanent residents) over 65 receive the full superannuation  (age pension) but it is taxed.
Within a month I had received a gold card giving me free travel in non peak periods. I had to register within 2 months and have now voted in 2 national and one local election. I will not really gain much by becoming a NZ citizen but I have passed my residency qualifications, paid my money and am waiting on a police check. As I have declared my one speeding fine in 1993, I do not expect any problem and hope to be a NZ citizen by March next year. My Aussie passport runs out next September and I am undecided about renewing it. I only return to Australia to visit family and friends or pass through on my yearly visit to Europe.  At the moment I feel like ripping my Aussie passport into shreds once I receive a Kiwi one. The Kiwi passport allows me to enter more countries without a visa than the Aussie one anyway.
Although I have no plans to marry, as a gay man I can do so in NZ but not Australia. The only downside of living here is medical. Private medical insurance at my age is very expensive and the wait for a non-urgent operation is very long. I may have to pay $9,000 for a hernia operation and am resigned to paying to eventually have my eye cataracts removed which would have been covered by my private insurance when I lived in Australia. Of course that, like my annual trips to Europe, will reduce my assets and so Centrelink will pay more money each month to NZ on my behalf.

I feel NZ is doing a much better job of honouring the ANZAC spirit and wonder how much of the Australian lack of support is disguised racism due to the large number of Maoris that have moved over there
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Some eye-opening accounts of life at Christmas Island from a former Serco guard: https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/3s3o1g/i_lived_through_two_riots_on_christmas_island_as

BE WARNED - it's pretty heavy content and not for the faint-of-heart or thin-skinned.

I agree with Bevans about the mistake of mixing villains with genuine asylum seekers.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
Given that Australian citizens who choose to fight overseas (for whatever reason) may have it revoked, I have no issue with non-citizens being deported.

However, the secrecy surrounding these detention centres is over the top. It serves no real purpose other than protect incumbent governments from timely scrutiny when things go bad. Your average stuff up can be buried but riots are another thing altogether Embarassed.

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