Leigh Creek Coal Train - The End Is Nigh

 
  nscaler69 Deputy Commissioner

Location: There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
There may be a small dime light at the end of the tunnel:

"Archer Exploration wants to develop “world class” asset in Leigh Creek following coal mine closure"
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/business/archer-exploration-wants-to-develop-world-class-asset-in-leigh-creek-following-coal-mine-closure/story-fni6uma6-1227608214333?sv=b87a25af3428897542118adc596318d0

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  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

There may be a small dime light at the end of the tunnel:
nscaler69
Appropriately, a dime is a US 5¢ coin Wink

"Proposals" in SA aren't worth getting your hopes up for.
  nscaler69 Deputy Commissioner

Location: There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
Sorry ment 'dim' and there is probably a 'dime' chance as well.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
Please look up Queensland Magnesia (QMAG) and Australian Magnesium Corporation (AMC).

The former has been struggling for over 20 years to try and make money out of doing exactly what they propose. The original project was quite viable and then the Chinese came along during construction and prices dropped by 60%.

The later was a spin off to try and make more money from the same resource and also enable QMAG to make a lower grade Magnesia product to sell to AMC as part of the metal making process. We got to basic construction before the project went belly up due to cost over runs and no willing support by others due to the Chinese again crashing the metal market with low grade cheap process.

Noranda CEO often quotes, "how to make a small fortune from magnesium, start with a bigger one". Their company built Magnola in Canada using waste mine tailings. 18mth operation that plant before they closed thanks to the Chinese. This happen 18mths before AMC went bust. Their older 2nd smelter finally closed 10 years back and they bought some magnesite from QMAG again due to the Chinese.

Had AMC not had the cost over runs and actually finished the project, its highly likely the company would have eventually gone broke during the later high $A. QMAG only made a few profits and paid one dividend until AMC was wound up and QMAG sold off by the receivers. Thankfully the Chinese could never make the high end product, nor very few other magnesia plants world wide, the only thing that saved QMAG.

QMAG is still running under a different name, Sibelco, but obviously not smooth sailing

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-30/sibelco-axes-57-jobs-from-central-qld-magnesia-mining-operations/6898862

its also no longer an Australian company.
  theanimal Chief Commissioner

There may be a small dime light at the end of the tunnel:
Appropriately, a dime is a US 5¢ coin Wink

"Proposals" in SA aren't worth getting your hopes up for.
justapassenger
A dime is actually 10c in the American vernacular
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
For those who missed the message on page three of this thread, Tomorrow, 17th November 2015, will see the last shift to be worked at Leigh Creek Mine.
BBQ and drinks for the workers at end of shift!
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

There may be a small dime light at the end of the tunnel:
Appropriately, a dime is a US 5¢ coin Wink

"Proposals" in SA aren't worth getting your hopes up for.
A dime is actually 10c in the American vernacular
theanimal
Correct! It's not exactly something I care a huge amount about though...
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Yes today is the last shift at the Leigh Creek mine and so an era comes to a halt and probably so does the coal trains as well. They might run the trains till they clear all the coal that is still stored or in the loading bins though, just to clear it out! So the trains could run a little bit longer but the end is right now for the mine itself!
  wat700 Junior Train Controller

Location: Richmond, NSW
Yes today is the last shift at the Leigh Creek mine and so an era comes to a halt and probably so does the coal trains as well. They might run the trains till they clear all the coal that is still stored or in the loading bins though, just to clear it out! So the trains could run a little bit longer but the end is right now for the mine itself!
David Peters

Does anyone know when the last train will actually run?
  sar602 Chief Train Controller

Location: Nomadic truckie
I've heard could be as late as February/march, 3 trains a week all running at night depart the power house 1800 arrive back 0830, was up at Leigh creek on the weekend there's still a massive stock pile at the mine.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

I would expect some time in December or January. The power station is closing in March, so they would need the deliveries finished well ahead of then to avoid being held hostage to any disruption in the delivery flow.

It's also in the interests of Pacific National to get the coal deliveries out of the way as soon as possible, so they can cut the costs related to the flow sooner.
  Sojourner Train Controller

In the news today it was suggested that the site is being put forward as a potential site for a low level to intermediate nuclear waste dump. If that were the case I am guessing it would be transported by truck as opposed to rail though.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
In the news today it was suggested that the site is being put forward as a potential site for a low level to intermediate nuclear waste dump. If that were the case I am guessing it would be transported by truck as opposed to rail though.
Sojourner
I doubt there would be anywhere near sufficient volumes of nuclear waste to warrant a train service!
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: North Haverbrook; where the monorail is king!
In the news today it was suggested that the site is being put forward as a potential site for a low level to intermediate nuclear waste dump. If that were the case I am guessing it would be transported by truck as opposed to rail though.
Sojourner
One of the sites being proposed is at Barndioota, not Leigh Creek which is in fact a fair way further north. It's actually closer to Quorn than to Leigh Creek, although it is along the rail line to the latter.

We're kind of lucky that much of the intermediate level waste is actually housed at Lucas Heights in Sydney, so you could in theory run a train with much of the waste out there. Not sure if it's worth the hassle though, it's all pretty small volumes.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
the places that transport nuclear material by rail do so because the line is there for other reasons and its deemed safer than moving through a large population and risk of protests. SA will not have these issues.
  locojoe67 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Gen X purgatory/urban Joh-land
The derailment might delay the clearing of coal. Couple of pics here:

http://thesentimentalbloke.com/2011/06/in-the-news/
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
??

This was in 2011 no??
  donttellmywife Chief Commissioner

Location: Antofagasta
The derailment might delay the clearing of coal. Couple of pics here:

http://thesentimentalbloke.com/2011/06/in-the-news/
locojoe67
The blog post you've linked to is from mid 2011.
  locojoe67 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Gen X purgatory/urban Joh-land
Oops, sorry.

Never was one for checking the details.
  AN830 Locomotive Driver

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
http://indaily.com.au/business/2016/01/22/alinta-extends-port-augusta-power-station-closure-deadline/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=22%20Jan%202016&utm_content=22%20Jan%202016+CID_61c51b24374f908ab2622eed71f64a06&utm_source=&utm_term=Read%20more

The Power station won't be closing until may now, I've heard there still trying to clear the stockpile of coal at Leigh Creek Coal mine.
  8077 Chief Train Controller

Location: Crossing the Rubicon
http://indaily.com.au/business/2016/01/22/alinta-extends-port-augusta-power-station-closure-deadline

The Power station won't be closing until may now, I've heard there still trying to clear the stockpile of coal at Leigh Creek Coal mine.
AN830

This must be good news for the train crews and all the workers excepting for the mine workers?
  locojoe67 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Gen X purgatory/urban Joh-land
Trains until May? Sweet! Hopefully I'll get to photograph one, if I just get the year right...
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Trains until May? Sweet! Hopefully I'll get to photograph one, if I just get the year right...
locojoe67
Just a thought here that stockpile could be at the actual power station so there might not be the need to run any trains at all from Leigh Creek. They never specified where the stockpile was!
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
AN830 suggested it was at the mine - perhaps he/she has other info?
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

The ABC story suggested that at least some of the stockpile was at the mine end.

Regardless, I wouldn't expect trains to be running right through to May. They'll get it transferred as fast as the capacity at the power station end allows them to do so, to avoid a mishap with the rail line causing the power station to shut down early and leave Alinta with a pile of coal sitting at Leigh Creek with no other use.

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