Largest grain train for Newcastle!

 
  P2017 Chief Commissioner

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  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
$5-$10 cost saving.  Seems too good to be true!
Great to see in any case.
  seb2351 Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
$5-$10 cost saving.  Seems too good to be true!
Great to see in any case.
james.au
Lets take an average, and call it $7.50 a tonne.

Average wheat farm is 800 hectares, meaning that savings are equal to $27k per farm. That's definitely nothing to be sneezed at!
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
More info and pics.  

http://www.theland.com.au/story/3532486/record-breaking-grain-train-photos/?cs=4941#slide=3

What were the locos used?  The pics have SSR's 2 SSR class (GT46C ACe's).  The Land says there were 5 locos on the train.
  P2017 Chief Commissioner

Location: Geraldton
More info and pics.  

http://www.theland.com.au/story/3532486/record-breaking-grain-train-photos/?cs=4941#slide=3

What were the locos used?  The pics have SSR's 2 SSR class (GT46C ACe's).  The Land says there were 5 locos on the train.
james.au

Did see reported on Facebook that a BRM+G+BRM were on the back as banking units.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
More info and pics.  

http://www.theland.com.au/story/3532486/record-breaking-grain-train-photos/?cs=4941#slide=3

What were the locos used?  The pics have SSR's 2 SSR class (GT46C ACe's).  The Land says there were 5 locos on the train.

Did see reported on Facebook that a BRM+G+BRM were on the back as banking units.
P2017

Yes the ABC posted a video but what was on the front?
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Are they trying to say that a 1300 metre Is the longest ever grain train run In Australia ?

Back In the early 00's Freight Australia were running 70 hopper grain trains between Murtoa / Marma Lake and Portland Harbour Yard.
  Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

Two on the front SSR102 Bendigo & SSR101 Enfield.

The other three were on the back - Most of us weren't going to stay there that long while it got um ur "weighed"???, including Prime 7 & NBN it seems. Unsure of train run number, no details on the ARTC site that I could find.
  M636C Minister for Railways

From the photos, it looks like the ex-ATN XGAY wagons made up the extra vehicles added to the SSR/Westons rake.

M636C
  UpperQuad Locomotive Fireman

Location: 184.8 miles to Sydney
Back In the early 00's Freight Australia were running 70 hopper grain trains
Nightfire
Are you saying those trains were 1300m?
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Back In the early 00's Freight Australia were running 70 hopper grain trains
Are you saying those trains were 1300m?
UpperQuad
More around the 1500 metre mark !
  M636C Minister for Railways

Back In the early 00's Freight Australia were running 70 hopper grain trains
Are you saying those trains were 1300m?
UpperQuad
More around the 1500 metre mark !
"Nightfire"


Victorian Grain wagons come in two lengths:

14.9 m (so 70 wagons are 1043m long)

15.5 m (so 70 wagons are 1085m long)

The Chinese built wagons are 16.5 m long

So 73 wagons are 1204.5 m long

If you add five locos between 20 and 22 m long you have 1.3 km.

Not that much longer, but longer....

M636C
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Not sure on the exact wagon numbers and train lengths, but long grain trains were triled between Dimboola and Portland (that were longer than the crossing loops on the Ararat - Portland line 900 metre ish)

Given crossing loops between Ararat and Dimboola are at least 1500 metres, that would of been the upper limit.
  Grantham Minister for Railways

Location: I'm with stupid!
Back In the early 00's Freight Australia were running 70 hopper grain trains
Are you saying those trains were 1300m?
More around the 1500 metre mark !


Victorian Grain wagons come in two lengths:

14.9 m (so 70 wagons are 1043m long)

15.5 m (so 70 wagons are 1085m long)

The Chinese built wagons are 16.5 m long

So 73 wagons are 1204.5 m long

If you add five locos between 20 and 22 m long you have 1.3 km.

Not that much longer, but longer....

M636C
M636C
Also these were loaded to 92t, somewhat heavier than earlier long wheaties.

M
  smokeyalco Beginner

Interesting read : http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-02/history-making-grain-train-on-track-for-newcastle/6992782
P2017
Great stuff, starting to sound more like USA grain trains and an awesome sight.
  ModelRailwayMadness Station Staff

Drone based photo

  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
That looks like 3 locos, so id bet its the pushers, and that's the back of the train.
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria
El Zorro ran a double consist from Benalla into Melbourne a few years back. I can't remember the locos but there were 5 of them. There were 80 wagons on it, WGBY's and WGSY's. That was just over 1500m.
  BigTrain2015 Junior Train Controller

That was a big train in that case so impressive.
  a6et Minister for Railways

Wonder when comparing the trains in Victoria of longer than this one if consideration is given to difference in grades that this train had to work over?
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria
Wonder when comparing the trains in Victoria of longer than this one if consideration is given to difference in grades that this train had to work over?
a6et
the little speed humps in Victoria.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Was it a once off or will we see more of the same from SSR ?
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Id say it was a bit of a proof of concept and probably will be done again.  The coal network through the hunter isn't getting any less congested any time soon.

Back in the day, the GHB in NSW had the concept of sub terminals, where branch line locos collected grain and took them to a sub terminal and unloaded the train (e.g. Temora, Junee, Parkes, there are others in the north).  I wonder if there could be a revival of this idea, but by having various places used as wagon marshalling yards/top up loaders, to create these trains and then send them off to port?
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
Interesting read : http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-02/history-making-grain-train-on-track-for-newcastle/6992782
P2017
I did search for any existing articles, but found none matching "wheat"; should have searched for "grain".

The ABC article failed to specifically mention "CTC" or "more or longer crossing loops".
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g9lbUlnUJ0

A video from ARTC about this train.  Promotional but some good shots too.

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