Whats going on with 42109 and 42106

 
  Trainguy01 Station Master

Location: Casino
Hello.

So today I figured out that 42106 and 42109 are at the Casino roundhouse. Apparently 42106 is pieces and painted grey, while 42109 is in storage there. So does anyone have any photos of this pair or can anyone provide more info as to whats going on with 42106's rebuild?

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  M636C Minister for Railways

Hello.

So today I figured out that 42106 and 42109 are at the Casino roundhouse. Apparently 42106 is pieces and painted grey, while 42109 is in storage there. So does anyone have any photos of this pair or can anyone provide more info as to whats going on with 42106's rebuild?
"Trainguy01"


I think the real answer is "not much".

These locomotives were mainly of use when QR purchased NRR and started Interail.

I think one 421 is still working and one more available for service but Aurizon are getting rid of that type of locomotive as fast as they can. Aurizon have enough modern locomotives on standard gauge to not need any of the relics they inherited.

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  Redrock Station Master

While driving on the up suburban today I saw 4210? no 2 end leading on a trip train at Lidcombe Loop.
  Trainguy01 Station Master

Location: Casino
While driving on the up suburban today I saw 4210? no 2 end leading on a trip train at Lidcombe Loop.
Redrock
That would have been 42107 - It is the last 421 unit left in revenue service. I've also noticed Aurizon doesn't seem to use the no 1 end as much anymore. Could it be a visibility thing?
  sashmo Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisbane Qld
Here is a shot of 42109 with 42106 just beyond. Shot was taken in August last year, From what i saw nothing had beeen done to the units in some time, i think they will await their fate, iirc 42109 had a blown engine ?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/sashmos_pics/20427386354/in/dateposted-public/
  Trainguy01 Station Master

Location: Casino
Here is a shot of 42109 with 42106 just beyond. Shot was taken in August last year, From what i saw nothing had beeen done to the units in some time, i think they will await their fate, iirc 42109 had a blown engine ?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/sashmos_pics/20427386354/in/dateposted-public/
sashmo
Poor thing, it probably hasn't been run in years. Perhaps Aurizon will end up just selling them?
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Perhaps, this question does not belong here, NSWGR/SRA, had a deed of gift arrangement with NSWRTM, in relation to surplus engines, the last examples I am aware of is 4490 4520, and 44211. In 1994? Prior to privitisation.

Are some of the bigger private operators subject to this arrangement?

In respect to the 421 class, one is persevered operational, and one is at Dorrigo, irrelevant. And you cannot save everything.

So Aucsiano, have how many 80 class the books? DL, also. Longer term an 81.

CFCLA, have two ex 422 locos at Thirlmere, what are the longer term prospects for those?

And Aurizon,s stored CLP/CLF, will one of those survive?

Is it pay market price, or the gas axe, awaits?
  Spinner5711 Train Controller

Perhaps, this question does not belong here, NSWGR/SRA, had a deed of gift arrangement with NSWRTM, in relation to surplus engines, the last examples I am aware of is 4490 4520, and 44211. In 1994? Prior to privitisation.

Are some of the bigger private operators subject to this arrangement?

In respect to the 421 class, one is persevered operational, and one is at Dorrigo, irrelevant. And you cannot save everything.

So Aucsiano, have how many 80 class the books? DL, also. Longer term an 81.

CFCLA, have two ex 422 locos at Thirlmere, what are the longer term prospects for those?

And Aurizon,s stored CLP/CLF, will one of those survive?

Is it pay market price, or the gas axe, awaits?
michaelgm
There was no blanket 'deed of gift' arrangement for surplus locomotives twixt RTM/SRA.  Some things did go over, in custodial terms, when they were not required as capital stock anymore, and RTM could put up a very good case for retention of same.

Commercial operators purchased their locomotives ex-SRA/previous owner.  This is openly known.  Everything that commercial operators has was bought and paid for under 'normal' sale conditions.

I'd suggest that any presently surplus motive power will be available for the right price.  Some commercial operators do have a policy of selling any of their surplus to Albert G Sims and others of a similar ilk.

So, if you have a burning need to save some of this stuff, just like Joe the Gadget Man used to say: "Bring your money with you!"  Oh, and make sure you have a suitable site for storage and are able to afford the movement costs.
  blacktails1985 Station Master

Ive seen one of the 421's operating nose first several times at Cabramatta on the Down. Its always on the down, not the Freight line, so maybe its a shuttle to Minto is it?

Its around either 5 or 6 or 7 or 8. Not sure. Always comes when my battery is dead! Its in a rainbow livery.

One time there, waiting for the bus, I heard this deep pounding sound likened to a low flying helicopter. I looked over and it was a 421, on the Down but moving slower than usual.
  Trainguy01 Station Master

Location: Casino
Ive seen one of the 421's operating nose first several times at Cabramatta on the Down. Its always on the down, not the Freight line, so maybe its a shuttle to Minto is it?

Its around either 5 or 6 or 7 or 8. Not sure. Always comes when my battery is dead! Its in a rainbow livery.

One time there, waiting for the bus, I heard this deep pounding sound likened to a low flying helicopter. I looked over and it was a 421, on the Down but moving slower than usual.
blacktails1985
It would be 42107 in the Northern Rivers Railroad livery if your sighting is recent, or if is earlier than Jan 2013, possibly 42105. 42108 was scrapped a while ago now. The 421 class sounds great too

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