History of Port Augusta railway station?

 
  GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper
I was just wondering when the current Port Augusta railway station was built?

Also was there a previous staion and where abouts was it located?

I'm just planning to visit Port Augusta soon.

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  pjknife Assistant Commissioner

Location: Port Lincoln
Hi Geoffrey,

The present station was built for the Trans Australian standard gauge line from Port Augusta to Kalgoorlie. Not sure of the exact year, but would have been around 1917-18. Prior to that the narrow gauge line from Quorn and Oodnadatta terminated at a stone station building on Commercial Road. The building still stands today, refurbished and used as business premises. It is the last building on the right at the end of the street, well worth a look.

Cheers,
Peter
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
The Trans Australia Railway was started in 1912 taking to around 1917 meaning it may have been built in the early part of the line construction?
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
I've been told that the stone building is set to be demolished to make way for a shopping centre complex, hopefully that's just nonsense.
  GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper
Thanks everyone for your replies.

Would I be correct to assume that the current station would have been a break of gauge station when it opened?
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
I haven't been to Port Augusta for many years.

What are the following buildings now used for (if they still exist), please:

  1. The Way and Works Branch Office just along from the station opposite Hobby Avenue
  2. The Traffic and Stores Branch Offices in Flinders Terrace
  3. The CR Institute down the hill from 2.
  4. The Officers' Quarters (Eleura Lodge) in Bell Terrace.
  SA_trains Deputy Commissioner

Location: ACT
Thanks everyone for your replies.

Would I be correct to assume that the current station would have been a break of gauge station when it opened?
GeoffreyHansen

Kinda. There would have been a narrow gauge and standard gauge connection. The broad/standard gauge connection around the 1920/1930's was at Port Pirie.

Technically, I guess Port August is STILL a break of gauge station with Pitchie Ritchie Pass Railway on one side of the platform and standard on the other! Smile
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Thanks everyone for your replies.

Would I be correct to assume that the current station would have been a break of gauge station when it opened?

Kinda. There would have been a narrow gauge and standard gauge connection. The broad/standard gauge connection around the 1920/1930's was at Port Pirie.

Technically, I guess Port August is STILL a break of gauge station with Pitchie Ritchie Pass Railway on one side of the platform and standard on the other! Smile
SA_trains
No.
The SG Port Augusta - Port Pirie Junction line was not completed until around 1937. Until that time there was a NG service from Quorn and Terowie (BG Adelaide - Terowie) to connect with the Trans at Port Augusta.

Port Augusta was NG to the north until 1956 when the Stirling - Marree SG opened although passengers ex Adelaide went via Terowie and Quorn direct.
  SA_trains Deputy Commissioner

Location: ACT
Thanks everyone for your replies.

Would I be correct to assume that the current station would have been a break of gauge station when it opened?

Kinda. There would have been a narrow gauge and standard gauge connection. The broad/standard gauge connection around the 1920/1930's was at Port Pirie.

Technically, I guess Port August is STILL a break of gauge station with Pitchie Ritchie Pass Railway on one side of the platform and standard on the other! Smile
No.
The SG Port Augusta - Port Pirie Junction line was not completed until around 1937. Until that time there was a NG service from Quorn and Terowie (BG Adelaide - Terowie) to connect with the Trans at Port Augusta.

Port Augusta was NG to the north until 1956 when the Stirling - Marree SG opened although passengers ex Adelaide went via Terowie and Quorn direct.
YM-Mundrabilla

Well... that is what I said.... not sure why you said no..... Have another read of what I wrote.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Thanks everyone for your replies.

Would I be correct to assume that the current station would have been a break of gauge station when it opened?

Kinda. There would have been a narrow gauge and standard gauge connection. The broad/standard gauge connection around the 1920/1930's was at Port Pirie.

Technically, I guess Port August is STILL a break of gauge station with Pitchie Ritchie Pass Railway on one side of the platform and standard on the other! Smile
No.
The SG Port Augusta - Port Pirie Junction line was not completed until around 1937. Until that time there was a NG service from Quorn and Terowie (BG Adelaide - Terowie) to connect with the Trans at Port Augusta.

Port Augusta was NG to the north until 1956 when the Stirling - Marree SG opened although passengers ex Adelaide went via Terowie and Quorn direct.

Well... that is what I said.... not sure why you said no..... Have another read of what I wrote.
SA_trains
It was the late 1930s before there was anything other than NG at Pirie.
SG from Port Augusta and BG from Redhill reached Pirie in 1937. The 1920s was years out.
Apologies, I had no intention of upsetting you but rather attempted to clarify and add detail to what you said.
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

Thanks everyone for your replies.

Would I be correct to assume that the current station would have been a break of gauge station when it opened?
GeoffreyHansen
The present station began life as a break of Gauge station with the Ng from Quorn using the eastern platform as at present. The SG and NG tracks used a common rail from Stirling North. PRR had to build their separate NG track when their line came back into Pt Augusta to avoid conflict with SG movements (Raises an interesting question when the Leigh Creek line is no longer needed).
The SG didn't extend east and south of Pt Augusta until about 1937. Previously passengers from Adelaide had travelled BG to Terowie then NG via Quorn.
  NG Sulzers Deputy Commissioner

Location: Quorn
Might have been the ignorant spelling of Pichi Richi that caused confusion.
  Bob K Station Master

Location: East of Port Pirie
Hi all,


To answer some of the above questions. I was in Pt Augusta today and went to the library and retrieved the following from a Pt Augusta Council document entitled "Flinders Ranges Heritage Survey" by Donovan and Associates. This document covers all the older buildings in Pt Augusta, including the original and current railway stations.

I will only provide the relevant info for both, as each copy from the library is 4 pages long.

Original Railway Station - quote "This station was built in 1881 as part of the first section of the Great Northern Railway". There is much more info if required.

Current Railway Station - quote "The new station was built in 1914 in preparation of the new link to Kalgoorlie". Also much more info if required.

greasyrhys -the original station building was used as the Curdnatta Art Gallery until recently when the were asked to shift to the current station. The block of land that it is on, together with the next door now empty Centerlink building, the old CR Institute (Cooinda), now empty and the adjacent abandoned croquet club and lawns are being looked at by a private developer for a possible shopping centre, however, the city Council will not let the original station to be demolished or changed. The current business climate in Pt Augusta means this proposal will probably not go ahead. I am not sure who owns this original station but I am working on that.

YM-Mundrabilla - re your 4 questions. No 1 The building still exists and is used as a youth centre. No 2 The buildings still exist and are used by various government agencies as offices. No 3 The building still exists (was Cooinda) see above, but is empty. and No 4, I am not sure about but will get back to you re this. I forgot to check today.




Bob
  Bob K Station Master

Location: East of Port Pirie
Further to my above comments, whilst the current railway station was being built, there was a temporary railway station and refreshment room, timber framed, timber cladding, built in Tassie Street to cater for the passengers on the East- West Railway. So I suppose, there have been 3 railway stations in Pt Augusta.

Bob
  emdrules Train Controller

Location: Port Augusta-Centre Of The Universe
Thanks everyone for your replies.

Would I be correct to assume that the current station would have been a break of gauge station when it opened?
GeoffreyHansen
Am only guessing but I would have thought that the narrow gauge would have gone to the old SAR station at the end of Commercial Road. The narrow gauge would have gone to the new station after the politics were sorted out of the Commonwealth taking over the Central line to Oodnadatta were sorted out,
  emdrules Train Controller

Location: Port Augusta-Centre Of The Universe
Thanks everyone for your replies.

Would I be correct to assume that the current station would have been a break of gauge station when it opened?
Am only guessing but I would have thought that the narrow gauge would have gone to the old SAR station at the end of Commercial Road. The narrow gauge would have gone to the new station after the politics were sorted out of the Commonwealth taking over the Central line to Oodnadatta were sorted out,
  emdrules Train Controller

Location: Port Augusta-Centre Of The Universe
I haven't been to Port Augusta for many years.

What are the following buildings now used for (if they still exist), please:

  1. The Way and Works Branch Office just along from the station opposite Hobby Avenue
  2. The Traffic and Stores Branch Offices in Flinders Terrace
  3. The CR Institute down the hill from 2.
  4. The Officers' Quarters (Eleura Lodge) in Bell Terrace.
YM-Mundrabilla
1 The Way and Works Building is used for Government funded Business Group for the region.
2 The Traffic building is used for employment agencies.. The Stores building is a regional health centre.
3 The CR Institute is closed but the office is still open.
4 The old Officers Quarters was used by the red cross but is now a hostel
  Bob K Station Master

Location: East of Port Pirie
Thanks for the corrections on the buildings current use. Its been a while since I lived there.

Bob
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Thanks Bob K and emdrules.

The Officers' Quarters as a hostel. The mind boggles.

To me it's sad that an organisation as great as the Commonwealth Railways with all its history surrounding the construction of the Trans-Australian Railway, other achievements and heritage has gone down the drain. It's almost as if the SG CR and its people never existed. Thankfully Pichi Richi provides some great heritage of the old NG. Even GM 1 has been 'privatised'.

I suppose others feel the same way about the WAGR, VR, SAR and the NSWGR.

Edit 2007 on 7/4/16 left out the SAR!

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