3MP5 derailment at Rawlinna

 
Topic moved from South Australia by bevans on 21 Apr 2016 21:43
  Boss Chief Commissioner

Location: Caulfield Line
Sunday's Perth -Sydney IP cancelled due to the derailment.  See IP Web page.

I assume the consist did't get past Rawlinna?  Can anyone confirm this, please?
West bound IP would have been between Snowtown and Adelaide (as 4SA8 ) at the time of the derailment, so most likely that 5AP8 would have been held at Keswick and terminated there.
Pressman
Thanks Pressman for your response.

I assume the IP will run empty cars to Sydney for next Wednesday's train to Perth, assuming the track has been repaired at Rawlinna.

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  Boss Chief Commissioner

Location: Caulfield Line
Sunday's Perth -Sydney IP cancelled due to the derailment.  See IP Web page.

I assume the consist did't get past Rawlinna?  Can anyone confirm this, please?
West bound IP would have been between Snowtown and Adelaide (as 4SA8 ) at the time of the derailment, so most likely that 5AP8 would have been held at Keswick and terminated there.
Thanks Pressman for your response.

I assume the IP will run empty cars to Sydney for next Wednesday's train to Perth, assuming the track has been repaired at Rawlinna.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Sunday's Perth -Sydney IP cancelled due to the derailment.  See IP Web page.

I assume the consist did't get past Rawlinna?  Can anyone confirm this, please?
West bound IP would have been between Snowtown and Adelaide (as 4SA8 ) at the time of the derailment, so most likely that 5AP8 would have been held at Keswick and terminated there.
Thanks Pressman for your response.

I assume the IP will run empty cars to Sydney for next Wednesday's train to Perth, assuming the track has been repaired at Rawlinna.
Boss
your welcome Boss

Provided the path is cleared at Rawlina, the Adelaide Sydney section of the IP (3AS8 ) will run as a normal passenger carrying service (this is the usual procedure)
GSR are offering two options to the Passengers booked on the cancelled 4PA8 service
1. 100% refund of paid fare plus 20% discount on a rebooked service within 12 months
or
2. Fully paid Airfares Perth to Adelaide, two nights accommodation in Adelaide to join the Adelaide Sydney leg plus the same 20% discount offered in option 1

http://www.greatsouthernrail.com.au/news/service_cancellation_the_indian_pacific/
  Boss Chief Commissioner

Location: Caulfield Line
Sunday's Perth -Sydney IP cancelled due to the derailment.  See IP Web page.

I assume the consist did't get past Rawlinna?  Can anyone confirm this, please?
West bound IP would have been between Snowtown and Adelaide (as 4SA8 ) at the time of the derailment, so most likely that 5AP8 would have been held at Keswick and terminated there.
Thanks Pressman for your response.

I assume the IP will run empty cars to Sydney for next Wednesday's train to Perth, assuming the track has been repaired at Rawlinna.
your welcome Boss

Provided the path is cleared at Rawlina, the Adelaide Sydney section of the IP (3AS8 ) will run as a normal passenger carrying service (this is the usual procedure)
GSR are offering two options to the Passengers booked on the cancelled 4PA8 service
1. 100% refund of paid fare plus 20% discount on a rebooked service within 12 months
or
2. Fully paid Airfares Perth to Adelaide, two nights accommodation in Adelaide to join the Adelaide Sydney leg plus the same 20% discount offered in option 1

http://www.greatsouthernrail.com.au/news/service_cancellation_the_indian_pacific/
Pressman
Once again thanks Pressman.  That clears it up for me.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
NR92 on train 8M25S has just passed Forrest. Passed KM 1182 a few minutes ago.  Rescue?
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
What is 8M25S in train reporting number speak?  A SA or WA number?
  Typhon Assistant Commissioner

Location: I'm that freight train tearing through the sky in the clouds.
I am not speculating the cause of this incident, only highlighting that the cause of this derailment is unrelated to the SCT one. Totally different circumstances were at play here, and that's as far as I will say.

As you well know Typhon, rail organisations have a strict social media policy these days regarding providing commentary on events that involve their trains.


So, yes I can reasonably say that these two events are not related. Personally a little bit surprised you managed to get " speculation " out of my comments, perhaps they need to be re-read in context to that which preceeded them.

Cheers
seb2351
seb2351

But you did speculate by suggesting human error may have played a part. I understand the causes between this and the SCT one are unrelated. I've heard a couple of rumours too, probably along the same lines as the ones you've heard, and I expect it's going to be a very thorough investigation.

I do indeed know about the strict social media policies Smile
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The above train is approaching Rawlinna and I expect it to be there at the location in the next 90 minutes. Just passed KM Post 1315.

Thinking this loco came off another freight around Tarcoola.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
What is 8M25S in train reporting number speak?  A SA or WA number?
james.au

Could be SA as the train looked to have originated at Tarcoola.  I have not seen a train number such as this prior.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
NR92 is approximately 45 kms East of Rawlinna. I suspect the loading available for transit will be attached and it will head back EAST perhaps to the next crossing loop clearing the line?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
NR92 has reached the crash site.
  nscaler69 Deputy Commissioner

Location: There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
What is 8M25S in train reporting number speak?  A SA or WA number?
james.au
The 'S' on the end denotes SA.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Its the M that is throwing me.  I didnt think the SA system used letters in the first four digits.
  steamboy65 Train Controller

Location: Pemberton, Western Australia
this might seem like a dumb question but how far is this derailment away from the east/west highway and how will they get all those good containers and loads away from that site?
  nscaler69 Deputy Commissioner

Location: There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
It's a 'Maintenance train' number hence the oddness (M stands for Maintenance in this case not Melbourne).
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
this might seem like a dumb question but how far is this derailment away from the east/west highway and how will they get all those good containers and loads away from that site?
steamboy65
The Eyre Highway is approx. 140kms south of Rawlinna (as the crow flies)

Probably by rail
  steamboy65 Train Controller

Location: Pemberton, Western Australia
that you for that information pressman much appreciated
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
What is 8M25S in train reporting number speak?  A SA or WA number?
james.au
Closest I could locate was the old ASR system
1st digit 8 = day of week so 8 is strange
2nd digit M = Route Code M = Denman - Parkeston
3rd digit 2 = Destination Code (for route M) = Rawlinna
4th digit 5 = Train sequence of day

So who knows!
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Nice work @Pressman

No one has mentioned the KM Post situation so I will start.  Appears to be measured from Port Augusta?
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Nice work @Pressman

No one has mentioned the KM Post situation so I will start.  Appears to be measured from Port Augusta?
bevans
The zero point is at Coonamia, SA/WA Border is 1050.5km, Rawlinna is 1403.0km (from SA-trackandsignal) http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/Pdf%20files/ARTC/AR834.pdf
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
Thanks for the updates.  Will look forward to the ATSB investigation report in due course.
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Thx to all who are sharing information on the derailment and the photos

Has the status of the derailment changed?
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW

Friday 22 April 2016

Transport safety investigators have conducted their investigations this morning and released the site back to the Australian Rail Track Corporation (ARTC) just after 11.15am (WST) to start repair and recovery work.

To return rail services as soon as safe and practical, we are building a 300m track deviation around the derailment site.

Heavy earthmoving equipment and other materials have started to arrive on site and initial works will involve building the formation for the track deviation.

Grading to prepare the track deviation has already started (see image attached).

While the derailment site is in a remote location, ballast supplies have been arranged and rail and sleepers available locally will be used to repair the track. The weather forecast currently remains positive.

Our preliminary forecast is to return train operations late Monday evening (WST), 25 April.

We would like to thank our customers for their patience while this critical repair work takes place and are focused on returning services as quickly and safely as possible.

Further updates will be provided as required over the weekend.



No image was attached and no further updates on the ARTC website since then


http://www.artc.com.au/2016/04/22/rawlinna-derailment-update-2/
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
A question, what do they do with the deviations when they are not needed?  Lift them and take them back into storage?  Would the rail and sleepers of this deviation be the same as the rail and sleepers used in the SCT derailment?  Ballast id expect would be left though.
  BigBoy2015 Station Master

How will the locomotives be rerailed?

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