50 level crossings to be removed

 
  Crossover Train Controller

Location: St. Albans Victoria
The CEO of Watergardens Shopping Centre appeared to be very enthusiastic about plans to remove the crossing - maybe they might even foot some of the bill.
If he's enthusiastic, it's because he won't be picking up the tab.
Further update to the Main Road St Albans  project
Sunbury line  to be closed to all trains between Sunshine and Sunbury from January 2nd to January 9th inclusive with bustitution occurring .
Main Road St Albans to be closed to vehicular traffic from January 2nd to the 22nd inclusive for major works .
   Work continues out here in the west as well.
Furlong Road Level Crossing will be closed from 8 pm Thursday 18th February to 5 am Monday 22nd February .
The station car park on the western side of the line adjacent to the station will be closed at this time . This is the larger of the two car parks at Ginifer .The car park on the Eastern side of the line is being enlarged to cater for the increase in cars using this car park .Unfortunately this WILL make access to the station more tedious for the majority of motorists who drive to the station as they currently use the western side car park .
   This is being done to enable major excavation works to begin preparatory to lowering the line as the line is to go through what is now the car park area .
    There will be a further closure in March / April which will be to enable the construction of the road bridge over the line at Furlong Road .
     The Main Road Level Crossing project in St Albans is also progressing with the bridge being installed ( with it`s ancillary works ) during  the shutdown of the level crossing that occupied 19 days in January
   Furlong Road level crossing closed yesterday and is due to remain closed until April 24th .
 Work has begun excavating under the line to enable the insertion of the bridge decking to carry the road over the tracks        when    the line has been lowered sufficiently .
      Ginifer station car parking has been dramatically altered to allow the works to continue as well but the station remains    open as in St Albans and the there are no planned shutdowns to the trains that I am aware of .
       Work is also continuing at Stans in excavating the trench for the tracks under Main Road and adjacent to St Albans           Station
Crossover
     As of today all of the site offices have been transferred from the works depot site they have occupied adjacent to, and just south of Ginifer station to a site approx 1/2 Kilometer  north along the line towards St Albans adjacent to Kingsley street
     This seems to be to make room to enable further excavation of the Rail cutting to continue north from Furlong road .
     The offices were also on the site for the new Ginifer station so .moving them will free up room for construction to commence on this as well .

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  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
Information on the Blackburn Road crossing removal at Blackburn, received today:

http://levelcrossings.vic.gov.au/media-library/publications/blackburn-road-community-update/blackburn-road-community-update-may-2016/_nocache

(Have never seen a Vlocity there though)
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
(Have never seen a Vlocity there though)
Lad_Porter
That's just their general cover picture !

But you think there would be enough PR and spin doctor staff to be able to come up with a cover picture of the Blackburn construction site for this media release !
  ElliotProvis Junior Train Controller

Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Admin remove this if not relevant: but I'd like to speculate on Grange Road Alphington level crossing being removed.

It seemed most logical to me that this section would have all level crossings removed like Dandenong is going to have its level crossings removed.
That being said I see that many of these crossings aren't that high on the RACV Priority Level Crossing removal list, so I understand why they're just sticking to one.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Admin remove this if not relevant: but I'd like to speculate on Grange Road level crossing being removed.

It seemed most logical to me that this section would have all level crossings removed like Dandenong is going to have its level crossings removed.
That being said I see that many of these crossings aren't that high on the RACV Priority Level Crossing removal list, so I understand why they're just sticking to one.
ElliotProvis
Grange Road Alphington or Grange Road Carnegie ?
  ElliotProvis Junior Train Controller

Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Grange Road Alphington or Grange Road Carnegie ?
Nightfire
Apologies, I've corrected my original post. Alphington.
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
It seemed most logical to me that this section would have all level crossings removed like Dandenong is going to have its level crossings removed.
That being said I see that many of these crossings aren't that high on the RACV Priority Level Crossing removal list, so I understand why they're just sticking to one.
ElliotProvis

What specific section do you mean?
  ElliotProvis Junior Train Controller

Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Sorry, from Westgarth - Alphington!
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
Problem is that it still leaves one level crossing (Ramsden street) between Flinders street and Westgrath, let alone between Flinders street and Alphington. But the other whole sale removal will leave zero level crossings between Flinders street and Dandenong, if this includes removing level crossings with footpaths as well as roads.
  SPSD40T2 Chief Commissioner

Location: Platform 9-3/4 and still waiting !!
Admin remove this if not relevant: but I'd like to speculate on Grange Road Alphington level crossing being removed.

It seemed most logical to me that this section would have all level crossings removed like Dandenong is going to have its level crossings removed.
That being said I see that many of these crossings aren't that high on the RACV Priority Level Crossing removal list, so I understand why they're just sticking to one.
ElliotProvis
There isnt one crossing south of Mordi Creek either on the Vicroads priority list which is what they used to work to prior to the mythical beast aka LXRA coming into existence.

All a bit whimsically adhoc  or  similar now. Rolling Eyes Stange days
  ElliotProvis Junior Train Controller

Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Do you mean Merri Creek?
  SPSD40T2 Chief Commissioner

Location: Platform 9-3/4 and still waiting !!
Do you mean Merri Creek?
ElliotProvis
No, Mordialloc Creek. I'm referencing the Frankston Line
  historian Deputy Commissioner

Work at the moment on the North-McKinnon-Centre Road grade separation is concentrated on several activities.

The first is completion of the piling. Work is being undertaken in two areas - the rest of the piling appears to have been completed.

Three CFA piling rigs are being used around Ormond. The very large rig, which has been slowly working around the station box for months, is still working on the western side of the box. Last I saw it was working at the northern end near the gym. A medium sized rig is working north of this behind the houses in Newham Grove. The final rig is working south of North Road behind the tennis courts and catholic school. Given that we've only about three weeks before the big shut, and the relative slowness of CFA piling, it will be interesting to see if all this piling will be completed. I'm particularly curious about the section south of North Road which appears to be significant section to complete.

The other piling section being worked on is the western side south of Centre Road Bentleigh. This uses sheet piling with vibrating piling rigs. About a fortnight ago a smalling rig started about half way along this section, working north. Last week this machine was replaced by a larger rig (i.e. deeper piles) still working north. As at Saturday the section north to Centre Road had almost been completed, with the piling inserted over the new syphon. At the same time as the large machine took over, the smallest machine was started working south from the end of the installed piles towards the end of the cutting close to Brewer Rd. This machine can work close to existing structures (e.g. the signal bridge and overhead portals).

The second major activity is the construction of the beams on top of the piles to support the station concourses. At Ormond they've been working on the eastern side for about two weeks. Just this week they dug out the western side and commenced chipping away at the tops of the piles. At McKinnon the three piers (east, west, and centre) appear to have been largely completed. At Bentleigh, they have completed the western side, but not the centre or the eastern (which would need the station to be demolished).

The third activity is the excavation of the former Up line south of McKinnon Rd, and behind the platform at Bentleigh. At McKinnon they have taken out about 100 metres to a maximum depth of about 1.5 metres. At Bentleigh they have taken out about 2 - 2.5 metres pretty much the entire length of the platform.

The syphon south of Centre Road appears to be complete and they are now plumbing it to the existing drainage network. On the eastern side of the line, the pipe runs out into Bendigo Av and turns south. Presumably it will be connected to the existing pipes there. On the western side they dug a massive pit in Burgess St. They have taken out the large drainage pipe running north south along Burgess St, replacing it with large plastic pipe that spans excavation. They don't appear to have connected the syphon with the continuation of the drain that appears to run west under the lane behind Centre Rd.

The drilling machine near the substation continues its work drilling under the line in a southerly direction.

They have completed a two day shut of the rail line, but it's not clear exactly what work they were doing. An auger was working on the east side of the line immediately south of Centre Rd, and they may have installed some new overhead portals.
  jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station
Thanks historian for the update. Very informative as usual. There were other changes completed over the weekend shut in this North-McKinnon-Centre project. From what I could tell on my trip down the train line yesterday, an amount of rail lengths has been left just north of Patterson station and south of Glenhuntly station where the ends of the third track have been cut.  At each end it is a substantial amount of rail.

I'm just speculating that since they've already started digging out the trench where the up track once was, that once they finish this trench they can lay track through the area so that work trains can dump more rail and sleepers for the other two tracks?

At the Caulfield end, a John Holland truck & generator has been parked adjacent to the Caulfield sidings for quite a while now and renovations on a small building next to the sidings is nearly complete. Both sidings have had asphalt paths put in recent weeks for drivers to swap ends.

As always I'm amazed by all the work that is happening and while the 6 week shut will cause some inconvenience, it will be worth it when finished.
  slowcoach Locomotive Driver

http://levelcrossings.vic.gov.au/crossings/melton-highway#community-feedback

Designs for the Melton Highway level crossing removal have been published. It's a road-over-rail project = Road bridge over the railway
  TOQ-1 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Power Trainger
http://levelcrossings.vic.gov.au/crossings/melton-highway#community-feedback

Designs for the Melton Highway level crossing removal have been published. It's a road-over-rail project = Road bridge over the railway
slowcoach
Hopefully there is plenty of room under the road for any future rail amplification.

My preferred solution would have been to put the road under, and then use the excavated soil for doing a road over at Calder Park Drive.
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
From the latest message from LXRA re Blackburn Road:

"In a big win for the Blackburn community, the Victorian Government recently announced that lifts would feature in the revamped Blackburn station.
The removal of the Blackburn level crossing includes improvements to the station in terms of access and shelters and now, thanks to some strong advocacy by the community, it also includes two lifts.

A big thank you to the community representatives on the Stakeholder Liaison Group for their contribution in getting these lifts included."

What kind of BS is this?  Are they not obliged to provide lifts anyway?  DDA requirement?
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: Trapped in a meeting with Rhonda and Karsten
What kind of BS is this?  Are they not obliged to provide lifts anyway?  DDA requirement?
Lad_Porter
DDA access requirement is for lifts or ramps that have wheelchair-tolerable grades. Blackburn Station already has ramps, but it looks like the Railway Rd and South Parade ramps are being replaced by stairs and new, shallower ramps.

I still don't see the point of installing lifts though. They're utterly impractical.

Here's the 'revamped' Blackburn station diagram:



I think it'd be better to knock down all of the buildings at Blackburn railway station and start afresh. I don't always have kind words for the modern 'architecture' used for station buildings these days, but it's certainly better than the cream-and-brick afterbirth there at the moment.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
http://levelcrossings.vic.gov.au/crossings/melton-highway#community-feedback

Designs for the Melton Highway level crossing removal have been published. It's a road-over-rail project = Road bridge over the railway
Hopefully there is plenty of room under the road for any future rail amplification.

My preferred solution would have been to put the road under, and then use the excavated soil for doing a road over at Calder Park Drive.
TOQ-1
Personally rail over would have been better as it would avoid severing the Sydenham Road intersection  as well as allowing for for track amplification.
  Crossover Train Controller

Location: St. Albans Victoria
http://levelcrossings.vic.gov.au/crossings/melton-highway#community-feedback

Designs for the Melton Highway level crossing removal have been published. It's a road-over-rail project = Road bridge over the railway
Hopefully there is plenty of room under the road for any future rail amplification.

My preferred solution would have been to put the road under, and then use the excavated soil for doing a road over at Calder Park Drive.
Personally rail over would have been better as it would avoid severing the Sydenham Road intersection  as well as allowing for for track amplification.
railblogger
I agree , Topographically it looks as if it would be relatively easy to drive the road under the line at this point
  doyle Junior Train Controller

No the western side of the line (road) has a slight incline, much better for road over at this crossing

Doyle
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Personally rail over would have been better as it would avoid severing the Sydenham Road intersection  as well as allowing for for track amplification.
railblogger
Track centres are very wide through the existing level crossing due to the down line been deviated around the train stabling yard.

It would be very easy to see enough bridge clearance for 4 running lines once completed.
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
I found this article from last year about using value capture to fund level crossing removal. Now, if value capture supplementing the sales of the Port of Melbourne can fund even one more level crossing removal, I'm all for it.
  jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station
I found this article from last year about using value capture to fund level crossing removal. Now, if value capture supplementing the sales of the Port of Melbourne can fund even one more level crossing removal, I'm all for it.
Myrtone
Yes. Now let me counter your enthusiasm for value capture with a blog post from Daniel Bowen as to why value capture over railway lines in Victoria isn't done. I'm sure you'll find his analysis useful: http://www.danielbowen.com/2016/02/07/value-capture-over-rail-lines/
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
That blog post is about building over the top of the railway. My point is that level crossing removal can still add to property value even if that's not done, so meaning that the local city council gets more rates. On that basis, the city council could cover a portion of the cost of the earthworks. As long as parties other than the rail operator benefit monetarily from the grade separation, it helps if each of them covers a portion of the cost.

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