CFMEU fined for blockading Vic Regional Rail Link

 

News article: CFMEU fined for blockading Vic Regional Rail Link

The construction union and an official from its militant Victorian branch have been fined $78,000 for blockading the states’s $4.

  dollarbill85 Locomotive Fireman

Proves that unions cause more problems than they solve.

CFMEU fined for blockading Vic Regional Rail Link

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  ARodH Chief Train Controller

Location: East Oakleigh, Vic
Isn't actually: unions that behave like Organised Crime groups, cause more problems than they solve.
  xxxxlbear Token Booking Clerk

Location: Geelong
I disagree with the generalisation that unions cause more problems than they solve.
The majority of unions do the right thing by their members, and the community at large. Its the minority that are troublemakers, and certain individuals within them that are the root cause. That and the media who loves to whip the population into a frenzy with hyped up OTT media reports that gives the good unions a bad name.
I used to be a shop steward with the HSUA (read HEF). When I left work, the fairly militant union had a good name, but in the past year or 2, a couple of union officials did the wrong thing by the union members, and dragged the union name down with them.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
There is good and bad on both sides just take the CFMEU on the Union side and seven-eleven on the Capitalist side as bad examples of both.
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
I think most of us would agree that many (probably most) unions are "good" unions who work for the benefit of their members and even the broader community.

But there are quite a few bad unions too. They range from the mildly corrupt like the hospital employees union where the bosses merely pinched money belonging to the members and possibly took bribes, through to the violent ones like the wharfies, through to the building division of the CFMEU which ignores the law, doesn't pay fines, violently intimidates dissenters, black bans big building companies like Boral etc and consorts with the very worst of the drug dealing outlaw bikie gangs. The building division of the CFMEU appear to be throughly evil and seems to regard itself as above the laws that apply to the rest of us.

I think these bad unions bring the good unions into disrepute and make broader society regard any unionism as pretty suspect. If outfits like Trades Hall, the ACTU and even the Labour Party want to improve the image of unions and unionism, they should disaffiliate the bad unions and refuse to take any donations offered by them. A moral stand by good unionists against the baddies would hopefully improve the image of the movement. But perhaps the payments and donations from the baddies will continue to seduce groups affiliated with good unionism to keep them affiliated so they will continue to get all that money?
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: North Haverbrook; where the monorail is king!
You can have some pretty bad non-militant unions too: the Shoppies (SDA) is notorious for being a captive union of Coles and Woolies and the ASU is often so cooperative with businesses that they become ineffectual bargainers (fun fact: they're so pro-business that their own offices got picketed by another union once!).

Militancy-vs-cooperation is a really hard thing to balance for unions, especially nowadays as traditional unionism itself is being eroded by casualisation, outsourcing, offshoring and the rise of multi-skilled trades. The conditions that unions can bargain for are as relevant today as they ever have been, but their structure needs to undergo some really big changes to maintain their bargaining power.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
There is good and bad on both sides just take the CFMEU on the Union side and seven-eleven on the Capitalist side as bad examples of both.
YM-Mundrabilla
While the unions have a monopoly over representation little will change. There is no need for industry specific unions anymore, each site should select their union to represent them. If a union isn't doing the right thing by the workers, they can vote them out and get another.
  QSB6.7 Chief Train Controller

Location: Going off the rails on a crazy train.
I think most of us would agree that many (probably most) unions are "good" unions who work for the benefit of their members and even the broader community.

But there are quite a few bad unions too. They range from the mildly corrupt like the hospital employees union where the bosses merely pinched money belonging to the members and possibly took bribes, through to the violent ones like the wharfies, through to the building division of the CFMEU which ignores the law, doesn't pay fines, violently intimidates dissenters, black bans big building companies like Boral etc and consorts with the very worst of the drug dealing outlaw bikie gangs. The building division of the CFMEU appear to be throughly evil and seems to regard itself as above the laws that apply to the rest of us.

I think these bad unions bring the good unions into disrepute and make broader society regard any unionism as pretty suspect. If outfits like Trades Hall, the ACTU and even the Labour Party want to improve the image of unions and unionism, they should disaffiliate the bad unions and refuse to take any donations offered by them. A moral stand by good unionists against the baddies would hopefully improve the image of the movement. But perhaps the payments and donations from the baddies will continue to seduce groups affiliated with good unionism to keep them affiliated so they will continue to get all that money?
Bogong
You left the UFU out of the "bad" ones.

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