Faulty Escalator at Southern Cross Station

 
  Duncs Chief Commissioner

At SCS at the corner of Bourke and Spencer Streets is a large stairway and three escalators that go up to the concourse that separates the CBD from Docklands. Of the three escalators, one has now been out of action for over a month. With no explanation. Any ideas why this has not yet been fixed?

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  davesvline Chief Commissioner

Location: 1983-1998
At SCS at the corner of Bourke and Spencer Streets is a large stairway and three escalators that go up to the concourse that separates the CBD from Docklands. Of the three escalators, one has now been out of action for over a month. With no explanation. Any ideas why this has not yet been fixed?
Duncs
The reasons would be varied, but typically could be;
- waiting for parts,
- competence of the current maintenance contractor,
- or the equipment is completely stuffed and needs replacing.

I'd imagine that there'd be something in the contract regarding down time, after hours maintenance etc.

But I can tell you as an absolute fact that the current maintenance provider is not the original equipment installer / manufacturer. This usually occurs due to a combination of the contractor(s) not fulfilling the contract requirements, or their price being perceived as too high. Some places get Consultants involved in these things to to due diligence and maintenance reports etc. Some of these mobs advocate shopping around for best price, and just before it stuffs up, get the contract back with the original provider so that they're carrying the can of a fully comprehensive maintenance contract when it stuffs up. (so it gets fixed under contract the dogs!)

The escalator group in question is well known in the industry as a basket case. Some mong didn't allow the roof big enough to offer them the required protection from rain, and as a result they've been wet and flooded. IIRC what roofing is over them was a tacky add-on. Whilst flooding of lifts and escalators does happen and is unfortunate (been the odd case of a basement flooded and someone got in and gone to the carpark for a swim), its not that common.

The equipment is simply not designed to work in the wet, and IMHO, those ones should be ripped out and start again.

Go and have a look in the pits of the platform lifts at the southern end. These are hydraulic lifts. So whilst they will leak a small amount of oil, regular maintenance should keep rubbish tidied up, and overflow drums emptied. Saw one a few months back with a swimming pool of oil in there. I'd hope its been tidied up since then, but still it says plenty.

Regards
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Any ideas why this has not yet been fixed?
"Duncs"
Yep. Nobody knows whose job it is.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
The escalator group in question is well known in the industry as a basket case. Some mong didn't allow the roof big enough to offer them the required protection from rain, and as a result they've been wet and flooded. IIRC what roofing is over them was a tacky add-on.
davesvline
This is noticeable at many of the new stations where they were installed. North Melbourne in particular doesn't appear to give the escalators adequate protection from rain being blown in and they'd definitely get wet in a storm - can't be good for something that's really designed for indoor use only.
  Duncs Chief Commissioner

The escalator group in question is well known in the industry as a basket case. Some mong didn't allow the roof big enough to offer them the required protection from rain, and as a result they've been wet and flooded. IIRC what roofing is over them was a tacky add-on.
This is noticeable at many of the new stations where they were installed. North Melbourne in particular doesn't appear to give the escalators adequate protection from rain being blown in and they'd definitely get wet in a storm - can't be good for something that's really designed for indoor use only.
don_dunstan

No to mention the safety issue if someone slips on a wet escalator/ while it is operating.
  TOQ-1 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Power Trainger
The escalator group in question is well known in the industry as a basket case. Some mong didn't allow the roof big enough to offer them the required protection from rain, and as a result they've been wet and flooded. IIRC what roofing is over them was a tacky add-on.
This is noticeable at many of the new stations where they were installed. North Melbourne in particular doesn't appear to give the escalators adequate protection from rain being blown in and they'd definitely get wet in a storm - can't be good for something that's really designed for indoor use only.

No to mention the safety issue if someone slips on a wet escalator/ while it is operating.
Duncs
They've coated some of the escalators at the Collins St End of Parliament with something that gives some more grip. Makes it hard to walk down them, let alone run down like most people do in the peak.
  Duncs Chief Commissioner

As of today it is still out of service
  Tony M. Locomotive Fireman

Does anyone know if this (lack of escalator maintenance) is a wider issue? I notice the travellator at the shopping complex in Carlton where the Nova Cinema is has been out of action for weeks as well...
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
There is now an escalator out at the Coillins Street end for Platforms 9 and 10.
  davesvline Chief Commissioner

Location: 1983-1998
Does anyone know if this (lack of escalator maintenance) is a wider issue? I notice the travellator at the shopping complex in Carlton where the Nova Cinema is has been out of action for weeks as well...
Tony M.
Depends on varying factors. Some maintenance providers begrudgingly do what they're paid, others have to be threatened with cancellation of their contract due to non performance etc in order to get their crap in one sock. Others are better, but charge more.

Some places have escalators working all hours of the day, whereas lifts usually get a break as demand subsides. Casinos, stations and shopping centre's are the best examples of escalators going non stop. Obviously maintenance has to be planned around after hours, as during normal business times its simply impractical / inconvenient to all to do so (if it breaks down then its a mad dash for bits and pieces). These times are obviously at overtime rates, therefore contracts with these clauses attract a higher cost (and rightly so).

If the customer has gone with the cheapest maintenance provider........ Join the dots.
Or, its possibly a parts issue, which may be exacerbated if the gear isn't yours and the equipment manufacturer is going to bend you over on price and availability of spare parts.
Everything is made overseas on these things (and has been for the last 25 years). Fcking accountants tell you its a cost to have a spare part taking up shelf space, so bin it and order one from overseas when you need it. That's cheaper than having one take up shelf space according to these Ftards.

Additionally, age of equipment is a big issue. Consultants will usually say Lifts / escalators older than 20yrs - upgrade it, or rip it out and start fresh. Nowadays its all cheap from China - built to a price as an appliance. It stuffs up you throw it away and buy a new one. Oh look, the parts in the 2016 model don't fit the 2014 model...................

Point to note though, If you want to take your lift / escalator maintenance to the equivalent of Kmart tyre and auto - Ultratune, instead of the Holden - Toyata - Ford dealer, then don't complain when you have to bend over and take it up the date.

Canibalisation of parts from Lifts / escalators (if you don't have some twit prevent you from keeping parts) is a GOLDMINE if you know who's got what to get you out of the poo.

Regards
  ARodH Chief Train Controller

Location: East Oakleigh, Vic
I'll just say that maintenance scheme for checkout terminals & atms, is in a similar situation. Though they now use more PC based components, but good luck finding parts for pre 2010 PC.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Does anyone know if this (lack of escalator maintenance) is a wider issue? I notice the travellator at the shopping complex in Carlton where the Nova Cinema is has been out of action for weeks as well...
Depends on varying factors. Some maintenance providers begrudgingly do what they're paid, others have to be threatened with cancellation of their contract due to non performance etc in order to get their crap in one sock. Others are better, but charge more.

Some places have escalators working all hours of the day, whereas lifts usually get a break as demand subsides. Casinos, stations and shopping centre's are the best examples of escalators going non stop. Obviously maintenance has to be planned around after hours, as during normal business times its simply impractical / inconvenient to all to do so (if it breaks down then its a mad dash for bits and pieces). These times are obviously at overtime rates, therefore contracts with these clauses attract a higher cost (and rightly so).

If the customer has gone with the cheapest maintenance provider........ Join the dots.
Or, its possibly a parts issue, which may be exacerbated if the gear isn't yours and the equipment manufacturer is going to bend you over on price and availability of spare parts.
Everything is made overseas on these things (and has been for the last 25 years). Fcking accountants tell you its a cost to have a spare part taking up shelf space, so bin it and order one from overseas when you need it. That's cheaper than having one take up shelf space according to these Ftards.

Additionally, age of equipment is a big issue. Consultants will usually say Lifts / escalators older than 20yrs - upgrade it, or rip it out and start fresh. Nowadays its all cheap from China - built to a price as an appliance. It stuffs up you throw it away and buy a new one. Oh look, the parts in the 2016 model don't fit the 2014 model...................

Point to note though, If you want to take your lift / escalator maintenance to the equivalent of Kmart tyre and auto - Ultratune, instead of the Holden - Toyata - Ford dealer, then don't complain when you have to bend over and take it up the date.

Canibalisation of parts from Lifts / escalators (if you don't have some twit prevent you from keeping parts) is a GOLDMINE if you know who's got what to get you out of the poo.

Regards
davesvline
Oh how very true and so well put.
Money in Australia is not everything - it is the ONLY thing!
It is to be regretted that we seem unable to set the unemployed lawyers on to the two bob accountants............Smile
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The escalator at Platforms 9 and 10 at Collins Street concourse is back in service.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Everything is made overseas on these things (and has been for the last 25 years).
davesvline
Imagine what owning a car will be like when every single component is fully imported and if/when the dollar tanks.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Seems the liftsat Epping Station have now failed

Lifts at Epping Station are currently out of order. Citybound customers requiring lift access are advised to see station staff for taxi service to South Morang or Thomastown stations. Epping-bound customers requiring lift access are advised to disembark at Thomastown or South Morang and see station staff for assistance
PTV

may be the escalator virus has crossed over?
  Duncs Chief Commissioner

I am pleased to announce that as of 4.00pm this afternoon the escalator in question is back in service.
  DalyWaters Chief Commissioner

I am pleased to announce that as of 4.00pm this afternoon the escalator in question is back in service.
Duncs
Is that Epping or Southern Cross, Bourke St exit?

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