Federal Election 2016

 
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
It was rather poetic that two of his more vocal supporters (Wyatt Roy and Peter Hendy) were shown the door.
CraigW
It's a shame about Wyatt Roy, I thought he was fairly intuitive and talented for a politician. He's only young, perhaps he'll come back.
Very much think this is not going to be a good outcome and the next 2-3 years will just be continue the status quo, debt rising with no serious attempt to stop it, indecision and a stagnate economy. Some political "gurus" are already predicting this term of govt will be lucky to last 18mths.
RTT_Rules
Probably right. Too bad about a hostile senate, short of constitutional reform both sides will just need to work within its confines, end of story.

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  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
I just think it'll be a DD in two years.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The ALP will hold Wills easily. Batman is close ALP v Greens.
Valvegear

Batman is my electorate and i am still in awe at the amount of publicity the greens undertook for this election.  Even front page Age Newspaper on the previous thursday.  There were green posters right across the Northcote and Clifton Hills areas.  A lot of money has been spent.

The Age today talks about spending by the Greens at a ratio of 1:7 or seven times the ALP budget for the seat.  The ALP will struggle to hold next election meaning the current member will retain the seat.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
This is the real joke

BREXIT vote outcome and full statistics known within 2hr of poll closure.

Australia,
- No ID required to pre poll

- No ID required on election day

- Register to vote is closed days to weeks in advance

- No cross checking of those who multiple vote at different booths in the same seat (or buggerall fine)

- WA is still voting 2-3hr after the east coast has closed and in some elections the result known

- Counting is undertaken for 4-5 hr, then stops for 2 days regardless of the position at end of counting!

- Party's registered on the ballot form that have misleading, questionable and unpractical names

- Senate voting can take weeks to finalise

And for those of us out of the country,
- Postal votes don't arrive or may not arrive back fast enough to be counted

- Embassies traditionally open on polling day for voting were closed this time on polling day and we are only advised 10 days or less prior
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
The ALP will hold Wills easily. Batman is close ALP v Greens.

Batman is my electorate and i am still in awe at the amount of publicity the greens undertook for this election.  Even front page Age Newspaper on the previous thursday.  There were green posters right across the Northcote and Clifton Hills areas.  A lot of money has been spent.

The Age today talks about spending by the Greens at a ratio of 1:7 or seven times the ALP budget for the seat.  The ALP will struggle to hold next election meaning the current member will retain the seat.
bevans
Heard bot LNP and ALP are short of cash for the election
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
The Brexit count was quick because it's only a tally between two results after excluding the invalids.

Preferential voting takes much longer, especially if the seat goes to multiple levels of preference rounds.

WA closes late because, well it's a big country.

Senate voting is different this time around, quota counting used to be relatively easy, below the line aside the last place pile was just added to the party preference. Doing the numbers was quick. Now everyone votes with preferences that can shift each paper needs to be more closely scrutinized.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Tonight the ABC is reporting that as of this afternoon, Seats held, ALP 67, LNP 65 with about 13 undecided
Kind Regards
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
The Brexit count was quick because it's only a tally between two results after excluding the invalids.

Preferential voting takes much longer, especially if the seat goes to multiple levels of preference rounds.

WA closes late because, well it's a big country.

Senate voting is different this time around, quota counting used to be relatively easy, below the line aside the last place pile was just added to the party preference. Doing the numbers was quick. Now everyone votes with preferences that can shift each paper needs to be more closely scrutinized.
Aaron
Mostly excuses

- No results should be published until the polls have closed

- Preferential takes even longer when you stop work 5hr after the polls longer for 48hrs. Counting could stop at 11pm, but then restart at 8am on Sunday until 11pm and continue until done.

- Electronic checking should be done at the booth, how hard is it to use ipad's and the like to check off names after checking for photo ID

- Should be able to register up until and including the polling day, again how hard is it to show proof of address and enter some basic details into am ipad at the polling counter.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
https://newmatilda.com/2016/07/03/in-one-stunning-tantrum-andrew-bolt-has-summed-up-everything-wrong-with-the-extreme-right/- Here is Andrew Bolt frothing and foaming at the mouth, he wants Malcoms head, A LA like John the Baptist
  Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

Should be able to register up until and including the polling day, again how hard is it to show proof of address and enter some basic details into am ipad at the polling counter.
RTT_Rules
RTT, you do know that logical & making sense is an oxymoron with political parties, subject etc.

The only sense that political parties have are the cents from our pockets
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
This is the real joke

BREXIT vote outcome and full statistics known within 2hr of poll closure.

Australia,
- No ID required to pre poll

- No ID required on election day

- Register to vote is closed days to weeks in advance

- No cross checking of those who multiple vote at different booths in the same seat (or buggerall fine)

- WA is still voting 2-3hr after the east coast has closed and in some elections the result known

- Counting is undertaken for 4-5 hr, then stops for 2 days regardless of the position at end of counting!

- Party's registered on the ballot form that have misleading, questionable and unpractical names

- Senate voting can take weeks to finalise

And for those of us out of the country,
- Postal votes don't arrive or may not arrive back fast enough to be counted

- Embassies traditionally open on polling day for voting were closed this time on polling day and we are only advised 10 days or less prior
RTT_Rules
I certainly do hope you submit all these points to the AEC post haste
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
RTT, you're talking about a lot of investment in technology for 1 day (in theory) every three years.

There are no results til polls close, the ballots are sealed until the poll is closed.

How hard is it for someone to register on the day? How about how hard is it for someone to get their smeg together and register 2 weeks out?
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Tonight the ABC is reporting that as of this afternoon, Seats held, ALP 67, LNP 65 with about 13 undecided
Kind Regards
lsrailfan
Watching a bit of ABC 24 tonight I heard that NXT is still a chance in Grey depending on where the preference flow goes - even Anthony Green had no idea what might happen. Nick Xenophon did a live cross and chatted for a while; he seemed to be really authoritative and cogent - he's certainly no Clive Palmer and will certainly not fall apart with the first gust of wind despite what Johnny Howard said a few weeks ago.

And Barrie Cassidy was saying that a hung parliament was more and more likely - especially if NXT get that second seat. Damn it, I wish I'd put a bet on that now because my instincts were telling me that it was the most likely outcome - at one stage recently it was 9:1.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
So what then happens if the Independents/crossbenchers cannot work it out with either party, would it be up to the  GG to say back to the polls lads?
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
Latest update on the election; in the seat of Ikea, the local member, Alan Key, hopes to form a cabinet by the end of the night (well, according to a twitter account anyway)
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Boom tish!
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Latest update on the election; in the seat of Ikea, the local member, Alan Key, hopes to form a cabinet by the end of the night (well, according to a twitter account anyway)
petan
*cough cough*
  davesvline Chief Commissioner

Location: 1983-1998
Well it would appear that the CFA Issue has had zero effect on results in Victoria. If the ABC results of the seat counts and swing to/from parties is anything to go on,  most had a swing to Labor, except interestingly in Deakin where the incumbent Liberal has bucked the trend with nearly a 2% swing to him??

I'd suggest there's been some voter clarity with State / Federal issues.

Regards
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
I think you will find that the swing to Labor would have been larger without the CFA factor.
The bigger swing would have given the ALP a few more seats, therefore Billy boy would now be PM.
  woodford Chief Commissioner

A couple of points, what is REALLY required is for the political parties AND a good portion of Australia's political journalists is an understanding that what people want is for the politicians to STOP playing poititcs and ACTUAL START TO FIX THINGS. Until that happens we will end up with this sort of pigs breakfast.

There's a good chance that  there will be plenty of informal votes, this being one of the only ways most can protest about poor quality of the candidates.

Given the likely state of the parilament, this would probably be a good election NOT to win, seeing both major parties appear to think minor parties and independents are the next step up from terrorism.

One good thing about this its nice to see the politicians and the major media squirming in the filth the they themselves have created.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
I think you will find that the swing to Labor would have been larger without the CFA factor.
The bigger swing would have given the ALP a few more seats, therefore Billy boy would now be PM.
Donald
My understanding was that CFA members were outside lots of polling booths in Corrangamite and that this may have had a material affect on the result.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
If LNP gets up Malcolm is mortally wounded as the right are now looking for someone to blame regardless. Expecting Abbott to poke and prod and the right to take control.

Sadly some hard working and senators have gone. John madigan for one.

Predict the alp will form government but the senate is now very hostile.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
One good thing about this its nice to see the politicians and the major media squirming in the filth the they themselves have created.
woodford
Neither Malcolm nor Bill took any responsibility whatsoever for the huge swing away from the major parties on Saturday night. Shorten was trying to spin the fact that Labor were picking up seats but it wasn't nearly enough for them to form government because the swing was actually more towards the minor parties; Turnbull on the other hand took no responsibility whatsoever for the massive rout against his party and tried to blame it instead on a dishonest "Mediscare" campaign mounted by the opposition (now where did the Labor party copy that strategy from?).

Neither of these people are prepared to take take the blame for the fact that the public have shown that they don't want them or their policies, instead trying to sheet home the blame to some kind of "we wuz robbed" factor.

Incidentally I noticed that one of Pauline Hanson's policies was that people buying houses in this country will need to prove either residency or that their visa gives them entitlement to purchase an existing property. It's about time.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Andrew Bolt this morning calls for the reinstatement of Tony Abbott as our Prime Minister - urgently:

TONY Abbott must return as leader of the shattered Liberals after Saturday’s election disaster...

Sorry Andrew, no. Not even Tony sounds like he wants the leadership back after that train-wreak on the weekend.
  Brianr Assistant Commissioner

Location: Dunedin, New Zealand
I use to work as a polling clerk in Australia until I moved to NZ. At the local polling centre, all votes are counted and placed in piles with a notional 2nd preference for House of Reps also counted. These results are phoned in by the person in charge and then we all go home about 10.30 or 11pm having been on duty with just brief meal breaks since about 7.30am. I would doubt the accuracy of much more counting after that time by people who are almost dead on their feet. I doubt many people would be willing to front up to more work on Sunday as most have their regular jobs on Monday. I guess if the pay was high enough. But let's face it, usually I have arrived home about 11pm and turned on the TV to find who is the new Government. I do not think there has been such close results like 2010 and 2016 unless you go back to 1961. In most years the very large expense of employing people on Sunday would not be worthwhile.

I was surprised that counting did not restart on Monday but have read that the WA debacle in 2013 when Senate papers were lost has meant they are being extra careful in tracking those this year which is being done on Monday.


Does any country insist on photo ID, certainly not NZ?  Perhaps it will come but I remember the difficulties of getting my elderly mother to a registry office to have her photo taken for a disability sticker.

I am all for preferential voting but it does mean things are slower. Here in NZ, you put 2 ticks on the paper, one for your local member (First past the post which I do not like) and one for the party in the MMP system which I do like. No upper house. Therefore results are much quicker. And it is difficult due to MMP for one party to gain a majority so politicians are much more willing to work together. At the moment the Maori Party and 2 other 1 member parties guarantee supply for the Nationals but do not always vote for other government motions. Shock, horror, the opposition parties have been known to vote with the government, perhaps after some negotiation. And same-sex marriage was passed with a free vote, only the Green party had no voters against.

What I do like, is that no campaigning is allowed on election day. All posters must be removed from the streets and you do not run the gauntlet to get into the polling place. The news here even showed with some amusement the sausage sizzles outside polling places. These would not be allowed if politically run on Election day.

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