Towns served by rail without level crossings

 
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

While all our state and territory capitals each have a number of level crossings, I do wonder if there are at least a few towns in this country, as well as New Zealand, which, while served by rail, have no level crossings, either with roads or footpaths. Towns formerly served by rail count only if there either never were level crossings, or all crossings in town were gone before the railway closed.
Myrtone

Do you mean suburbs, towns or cities. If you mean suburbs then there is a whole bunch of them in Sydney that don't have level crossings.

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  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
While all our state and territory capitals each have a number of level crossings, I do wonder if there are at least a few towns in this country, as well as New Zealand, which, while served by rail, have no level crossings, either with roads or footpaths. Towns formerly served by rail count only if there either never were level crossings, or all crossings in town were gone before the railway closed.

Do you mean suburbs, towns or cities. If you mean suburbs then there is a whole bunch of them in Sydney that don't have level crossings.
simstrain
Definately - the entire Eastern Suburbs line for example, likewise the Epping to Chatswood Line, oh, and the SWRL from Glenfield to Leppington - none have ever had a Level Crossing.Laughing



Myrtone, your question could have been better put (or perhaps never put) rather than a cryptic quiz. Perhaps "What towns (in XXX State) served by rail (past or present) have never had a Level Crossing". Lots of places don't have Level Crossings now, but did in the past. Oh, and for Victoria, if you look up the Curve and Grade diagrams at http://www.victorianrailways.net/grades/gradehome.html they show the Level Crossings.
  qredge Deputy Commissioner

Location: Marsden Qld
All the rebuilt Cleveland line in the Redland Shire are
without level crossings as is the new Redcliffe line.( QR ) and as both not in the Brisbane City Council area but separate Councils are considered different cities
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
Well, the Eastern Suburbs line and Epping-Chatswood line are underground, and underground railways never seem to have level crossings. I have not heard of a case of an underground railway intersecting with a road tunnel.

No, I am after towns (not suburbs) served by rail that don't have level crossings today, and ones that didn't when they were last served. Railways in the country side are always surface rail. Aside for issues of tunnelling cost, rural and interstate services in this country are nearly all diesel trains, which could not easily run underground.
  tazzer96 Deputy Commissioner

The gold coast, rebuilt cleveland, springfield, kippa ring, tennyson and airport lines in QLD don't have any level crossings.
There, you have the entire city of the Gold coast without a heavy rail crossing.  

You will have a few towns of the NSW NCL that wouldn't have a level crossing. A few towns on the northern end of the NSW main north didn't have any crossings.
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
Last time I was in Brisbane, I made tried to make a trip to the Gold Coast by train, but the nearest station to the Gold Coast was out in the country, and I had to take a taxi to the Gold Coast from the station.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
Last time I was in Brisbane, I made tried to make a trip to the Gold Coast by train, but the nearest station to the Gold Coast was out in the country, and I had to take a taxi to the Gold Coast from the station.
Myrtone
I don't think you understand the extent of the City of the Gold Coast...
  tazzer96 Deputy Commissioner

Last time I was in Brisbane, I made tried to make a trip to the Gold Coast by train, but the nearest station to the Gold Coast was out in the country, and I had to take a taxi to the Gold Coast from the station.
Myrtone
So last time you were in brisbane was between 1968 and 1996.   Or did you get a train to murwillumbah or casino?

The gold coast is australia's 6th largest city.
  2353 Chief Train Controller

Location: Brisvegas
All the rebuilt Cleveland line in the Redland Shire is without level crossings as is the new Redcliffe line.( QR ) and as both not in the Brisbant City Council area but separate Councils are considered different cities
qredge
Unfortunately Moreton Bay Regional Council (the council for the Redcliffe/Kippa Ring line) also covers Caboolture where there definitely are level crossings.
  2353 Chief Train Controller

Location: Brisvegas
Last time I was in Brisbane, I made tried to make a trip to the Gold Coast by train, but the nearest station to the Gold Coast was out in the country, and I had to take a taxi to the Gold Coast from the station.
Myrtone
What you couldn't find the large either yellow or green and white things sitting in the bus interchanges outside the station?  Better get to Specsavers.  Gold Coast City extends from the NSW border half way up to Brisbane City.
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
I don't think you understand the extent of the City of the Gold Coast...
Graham4405

It was definitely outside a built up area.
  gordon_s1942 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Tablelands of NSW
Crossing come in 2 forms, one for pedestrian and the other is Road traffic.
I was counting on my Fingers and I dont think there are either form of crossing between Parramatta and Penrith.
You mostly go over the line between the 2 but there are probably an underpass or 2.
From Penrith west on the  Mountains, there is or was a pedestrian crossing half way between Springwood and Faulconbride with a road crossing just before Faulconbridge.
Is there a Pedestrian crossing on the West end of Linden or is that unofficial?
The next I think is a pedestrian access on the Sydney end of Medlow Bath followed by the road crossing at Blackheath.
Bell and Zig Zag both have pedestrian crossings.
Over the years, the pedestrian crossings went from just a gated signposted crossing to being fitted with Bells,Booms and lights.
Before they put the underpass in at Emu Plains I think it had a pedestrian crossing but I cant remember whats there now.

From Lithgow to Parkes is a mixture of bridges, underpasses and Level crossings, mostly depending on the landscape but at one time, there was a bridge between Borenore and Parkes that was the LAST over the line from there to Perth !!!!
Over the years bridges have been built over the line but they are all designed to allow Trains with high loads to pass under.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
I don't think you understand the extent of the City of the Gold Coast...

It was definitely outside a built up area.
Myrtone
When was this? The Gold Coast urban area has grown in population considerably in the past 50 years...
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

It's a city of 600,000, the stations are suburban, but I'm pretty sure they're all built in these days. By 2018 Helensvale station will be connected directly to Surfers Paradise and Broadbeach by the light rail extension so no more taxis should be needed after that.
  Gaz170 Junior Train Controller

Location: Gold Coast
Probably Nerang, cow paddocks owned by a Chinese investor seeking a casino license are around the station. Can look like bush from the right angle.


2 minutes drive away is Metricon Stadium, where the 2018 Commonwealth Games will be held and the Gold Coast Suns call home.
  gordon_s1942 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Tablelands of NSW
When I went to Surfers Paradise in 2000, I was surprised to see where the nearest station was to serve the area.
However not knowing the area or the 'History' of its location, I just took it as being 'a Queensland' thing and having a Railway anywhere at the time didnt seem to rate very high on most development agendas.
  tazzer96 Deputy Commissioner

The GC rail line serves the people who live on the gold coast, not the tourists.  The light rail does that.
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

I don't think you understand the extent of the City of the Gold Coast...

It was definitely outside a built up area.
When was this? The Gold Coast urban area has grown in population considerably in the past 50 years...
Graham4405

To be fair to Myrtone on this the gold coast rail line is on the western outskirts of the city and doesn't actually go into the CBD itself. Some parts of the rail line still have significant vegetation around it and until the g:link connects to helensvale it doesn't really have a viable PT connection into the CBD.
  gordon_s1942 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Tablelands of NSW
As I said earlier, I didnt think when I was there that providing a rail access to the GC for either Tourists or Commuters was very high on the agenda as there was no advertising promoting it as a means to get there for those not driving themselves.

Back then I got the impression that local Tourists (Australians) were only tolerated because they were a reliable means of income as everything was heavily weighted in favour of the Asian Tourists who were bussed in and out in droves from the airports.
  GrahamH Chief Commissioner

Location: At a terminal on the www.
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From Lithgow to Parkes is a mixture of bridges, underpasses and Level crossings, mostly depending on the landscape but at one time, there was a bridge between Borenore and Parkes that was the LAST over the line from there to Perth !!!!
gordon_s1942
Going off at a tangent. That would have been the highway overbridge at Bumberry.
  7334 Chief Commissioner

Location: In the workshop wondering why I started 7334 in the first place
Crossing come in 2 forms, one for pedestrian and the other is Road traffic.
I was counting on my Fingers and I dont think there are either form of crossing between Parramatta and Penrith.
You mostly go over the line between the 2 but there are probably an underpass or 2.
From Penrith west on the  Mountains, there is or was a pedestrian crossing half way between Springwood and Faulconbride with a road crossing just before Faulconbridge.
Is there a Pedestrian crossing on the West end of Linden or is that unofficial?
The next I think is a pedestrian access on the Sydney end of Medlow Bath followed by the road crossing at Blackheath.
Bell and Zig Zag both have pedestrian crossings.
Over the years, the pedestrian crossings went from just a gated signposted crossing to being fitted with Bells,Booms and lights.
Before they put the underpass in at Emu Plains I think it had a pedestrian crossing but I cant remember whats there now.

From Lithgow to Parkes is a mixture of bridges, underpasses and Level crossings, mostly depending on the landscape but at one time, there was a bridge between Borenore and Parkes that was the LAST over the line from there to Perth !!!!
Over the years bridges have been built over the line but they are all designed to allow Trains with high loads to pass under.
gordon_s1942
Wasn't there a level crossing at Werrington at some time in the past?  I have never seen it but I recollect a friend who was a driver back in the 80s for CityRail or whatever it was called back then telling me that it was a bit of a worry that a V Set in full flight could get very close to the crossing before the gates were completely down.  No names, no pack drill, but I remember the conversation.
  GrahamH Chief Commissioner

Location: At a terminal on the www.
Crossing come in 2 forms, one for pedestrian and the other is Road traffic.
I was counting on my Fingers and I dont think there are either form of crossing between Parramatta and Penrith.
You mostly go over the line between the 2 but there are probably an underpass or 2.
From Penrith west on the  Mountains, there is or was a pedestrian crossing half way between Springwood and Faulconbride with a road crossing just before Faulconbridge.
Is there a Pedestrian crossing on the West end of Linden or is that unofficial?
The next I think is a pedestrian access on the Sydney end of Medlow Bath followed by the road crossing at Blackheath.
Bell and Zig Zag both have pedestrian crossings.
Over the years, the pedestrian crossings went from just a gated signposted crossing to being fitted with Bells,Booms and lights.
Before they put the underpass in at Emu Plains I think it had a pedestrian crossing but I cant remember whats there now.

From Lithgow to Parkes is a mixture of bridges, underpasses and Level crossings, mostly depending on the landscape but at one time, there was a bridge between Borenore and Parkes that was the LAST over the line from there to Perth !!!!
Over the years bridges have been built over the line but they are all designed to allow Trains with high loads to pass under.
Wasn't there a level crossing at Werrington at some time in the past?  I have never seen it but I recollect a friend who was a driver back in the 80s for CityRail or whatever it was called back then telling me that it was a bit of a worry that a V Set in full flight could get very close to the crossing before the gates were completely down.  No names, no pack drill, but I remember the conversation.
7334
I recall from a cab ride on the down Central West Exp in about 1971 the driver pointing out and seeing myself that a set of booms completed their fall only very shortly before we crossed. Can't remember whether it was Werrington or elsewhere but it was in the St Marys - Penrith speedy section.
  mikado5910 Chief Train Controller

Location: Kurri Kurri NSW
Saw this at Whittingham just after Explorers replaced 620s on the Hunter line. The school train out of Newcastle was barrelling along the flat, as I was driving home from work, and the booms hit their rest just as the train reached the crossing. I rang and reported it, and either the driver got a bung or they adjusted the settings, as it didn't occur again in the years I worked up the Valley.

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