Mudgee station yard diagram

 
  Gremlin Assistant Commissioner

Hi

Looking for a yard diagram towards the end of steam on into the 1970s...Dr Google found one photo on RailNet that is too small (for my eyes) to be useful, although it is a start...can someone point me towards others please?

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  georges Train Controller

This one (1981) may help? http://nswrail.net/locations/photo.php?name=NSW:Mudgee:31. Some magnifying probably necessary.
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
The ARHS (NSW Division) have a DVD with lots and lots of old Track and Signal diagrams. Cost about $70. See ARHS 67 Renwick St, Redfern.

There doesn't seem to be, AFAIK, a similar DVD for other states.
  Gremlin Assistant Commissioner

This one (1981) may help? http://nswrail.net/locations/photo.php?name=NSW:Mudgee:31. Some magnifying probably necessary.
georges
That's the one I have...sorry, it wasn't RailNet at all...becomes useless when expanded....
  Gremlin Assistant Commissioner

The ARHS (NSW Division) have a DVD with lots and lots of old Track and Signal diagrams. Cost about $70. See ARHS 67 Renwick St, Redfern.

There doesn't seem to be, AFAIK, a similar DVD for other states.
awsgc24
Would also be happy with older photos...but I have only found two that show the former yard layout...very frustrating! Smile
  georges Train Controller

This one (1981) may help? http://nswrail.net/locations/photo.php?name=NSW:Mudgee:31. Some magnifying probably necessary.
That's the one I have...sorry, it wasn't RailNet at all...becomes useless when expanded....
Gremlin
You could try contacting the photographer. This guy seems to be the one https://twitter.com/graemeskeet

Or you could email the owner of nswrail.net at nswrail@pobox.com or rolfe@pobox.com to see if he can help.
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney

There doesn't seem to be, AFAIK, a similar DVD for other states.
awsgc24

Exception: The Quail Map people have a map book for Tasmania. Why on earth they started there beats me.
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

The January 1968 ARHS Bulletin has a 23 page article describing the Wallerawang-Gwabegar line, with 56 diagrams. At least one of these will be Mudgee, but I don't know what era(s). I shall take a look tomorrow (if I remember).
  Gremlin Assistant Commissioner

The January 1968 ARHS Bulletin has a 23 page article describing the Wallerawang-Gwabegar line, with 56 diagrams. At least one of these will be Mudgee, but I don't know what era(s). I shall take a look tomorrow (if I remember).
duttonbay
Thanks - I have just received a copy of it - the power and speed of Railpage!!!
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

The January 1968 ARHS Bulletin has a 23 page article describing the Wallerawang-Gwabegar line, with 56 diagrams. At least one of these will be Mudgee, but I don't know what era(s). I shall take a look tomorrow (if I remember).
Thanks - I have just received a copy of it - the power and speed of Railpage!!!
Gremlin
Excellent...
  Booly Junior Train Controller

The signal diagrams and photos site has a diagram for the 1924 track layout.  I know it is a bit earlier than what you want , but it might help .
  Gremlin Assistant Commissioner

Does anyone have an idea of when the locomotive facilities (engine sheds, coaling/ash roads and turntable) were removed?

Cheers
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

A photo in Byways of Steam 22 is captioned "After the removal of  the turntable facilities a tender first superheated C30T 3011 waits with #54  passenger connection to  the up 'Mudgee Mail' at  Coonabarabran, 29th Dec 1961. This is a bit bizarre as Byways 5 has a photo captioned "C32 3309 on the single road beyond the 60ft turntable in  Mudgee loco, 27th Dec 1961". Does this mean the turntable was removed between those two dates? Another photo in Byways 5 taken on 27/12/61 shows the three road engine shed and water tank extant.
  gordon_s1942 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Tablelands of NSW
I worked at Wallerawang West from late 1966 into 1967 and the only Diesel I can remember in use was the 49 class that worked the Train to Oberon and did an occasional shunting trip out to Cullen Bullen and back to Lithgow.
Lithgow seemed to be the last area Dieselised but when it happened (late 69 to early 1970?, Freight first, Passengers last) the changeover was done very quickly.
Most likely much of the Steam facilities at Mudgee would have been in a pretty poor condition by then but items like the ash pits at least would have still been in use.

I went to Mudgee station once when on Holidays and all I remember was that the interlocking sat out on the platform with no shelter and what levers there were, most had Keys attached for the various shunting moves.
The frame was only about 12 levers long if that with one signal lever (Red) each end, maybe one or 2 Black (Points) and the rest were Blue (Release Keys) but that was over 50 years ago now.
  Spinner5711 Train Controller

I'm sure the shed and turntable were still in existence and usable in April 1988 when a very offbeat 3026T went there.  I remember helping Roy Miles take down, strip, clean, re-assemble and refit the fireman's side injector over part of Saturday night.  The bakelite telephone inside the shed sticks out in memory.

That weekend, the RTM took 3642 + 5910 up the North Coast on Friday night, LVR took 3026T Lithgow (or was it Wallerawang?) to Mudgee and return Saturday and Sunday (one day out, one day back) and Barry Tulloch took 3112 to Thirlmere and double headed with 3137 Picton-Thirlmere on the Sunday.  I was a very tired motorcader afterwards.
  johnboy Chief Commissioner

Location: Up the road from Gulgong
Turntable is still there, overgrown with grass. Just about everything else is gone. It is behind the golf course, end of Robertson Street, go around the golf course dam.
  a6et Minister for Railways

A photo in Byways of Steam 22 is captioned "After the removal of  the turntable facilities a tender first superheated C30T 3011 waits with #54  passenger connection to  the up 'Mudgee Mail' at  Coonabarabran, 29th Dec 1961. This is a bit bizarre as Byways 5 has a photo captioned "C32 3309 on the single road beyond the 60ft turntable in  Mudgee loco, 27th Dec 1961". Does this mean the turntable was removed between those two dates? Another photo in Byways 5 taken on 27/12/61 shows the three road engine shed and water tank extant.
duttonbay
John
That caption cannot be correct, in reference to the TT's removal as it was certainly still in operation when I visited the area in 1966.  The working of the 30T on the section from Binnaway - Coona was Engine First on the Down #63 and tender first on the up 54.  There was no TT at Coona thus the reason.

The normal working for the mail had the 30T come in from Mudgee, detach to loco and coal/water de-ash if needed. On return the same would happen including the turning of the loco to return Engine First to Mudgee.
  c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

Location: in the cuckoos nest
A photo in Byways of Steam 22 is captioned "After the removal of  the turntable facilities a tender first superheated C30T 3011 waits with #54  passenger connection to  the up 'Mudgee Mail' at  Coonabarabran, 29th Dec 1961. This is a bit bizarre as Byways 5 has a photo captioned "C32 3309 on the single road beyond the 60ft turntable in  Mudgee loco, 27th Dec 1961". Does this mean the turntable was removed between those two dates? Another photo in Byways 5 taken on 27/12/61 shows the three road engine shed and water tank extant.
John
That caption cannot be correct, in reference to the TT's removal as it was certainly still in operation when I visited the area in 1966.  The working of the 30T on the section from Binnaway - Coona was Engine First on the Down #63 and tender first on the up 54.  There was no TT at Coona thus the reason.

The normal working for the mail had the 30T come in from Mudgee, detach to loco and coal/water de-ash if needed. On return the same would happen including the turning of the loco to return Engine First to Mudgee.
a6et
a6et is very close to the mark.  The photo caption in the referenced Byways refers to removal of the turntable at Coonabarabran, and not Mudgee.  The mail extension from Mudgee thereafter ran with the C30T engine first Mudgee to Coonabarabran, tender first back to Binnaway, and after turning, engine first Binnaway to Mudgee.  A C32 usually did the run to and from Lithgow.  This information was provided in (I think) Roundhouse and possibly the Mudgee line Bulletins.

Happy turning,

John
  tootstar Beginner

I was an engineman @ Lithgow in the early 80's, I turned a 47 class at that time the loco shed was removed in the late 90's I believe the track is all still there under the grass.
KBH

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