What do you want in Railroad Australia 2?

 
  Jordan@Prospero Beginner

Thanks to everyone who posted.

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  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
The first series was quite good especially how the trains were taken from place to place and how the operation worked.  It might be nice on this occasion to get some action from around queensland, coal trains etc.  This was not covered in the last show.

The idea of accessing trains which are coming and going recorded here http://www.railpage.com.au/railcams would be a nice touch as a lot of work goes on behind the scenes to assist trainspotters.
  Showtime Chief Train Controller

I would like to see a lot more on the actual locos.
See the drivers starting them up and checking them over.
Not so interested in whether someone doesn't get the right meal onboard.
So for me some more technical stuff but this might not be what gets you ratings
  KRviator Moderator

Location: Up the front
Make it more realistic...

"Watch the crew piss off the NCO by blocking everything for 45 minutes waiting for the brake ticket to be brought up by the shunters..."

"Will Bill and Ben actually get a train today, because the Live Run team didn't lay them back and their train has only just started dumping at Kooragang?"

"Watch the struggle of staying awake at 6am after 9 hours running through the night after the 3rd barracks job this block and coming back on availability"

"Will Johnno win his argument with payroll after they short-changed him on his barracks detention last pay run?"

"See Bob argue with the RailCorp switchboard operator while trying to speak to the North Controller because she says "I can't put you through to a Train Controller, we're not allowed". Does Bob tell her to pull her bloody head as he is the driver of the freight train blocking his Up Main or is he diplomatic, find out after the break...

Will Davo win his argument with DCC about the trailing units being detached at Lithgow because they don't have operating Dyno for the run down the hill. Find out soon....

"Does the CountryNet log on today or will the crew have to shunt out the locos after an argument with the Live Run team?"

And of course, my personal favourite:
"See the worry on the faces of the crew at 2am as the Coey asks "What'd we have on that last one?""
  suburbansilvervlogs Beginner

Perhaps the movement of the AK cars? (reference: ARTC TAAs)
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
Perhaps break up the longer real operations type segments with brief "snapshots" of the better organised and more appealing tourist/preserved railways. But please avoid the "colourful, but slightly deranged" types that are often found volunteering at them.

However this might be too expensive to produce per minute of airtime? I guess once the producers have a crew on site, they probably want to extract the maximum amount of usable footage in a day? Most short segments I've seen on TV about preserved railways are fine, but some longer feature segments often degenerate into old people waving at the kiddies type mush.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

I reckon the VGR's "Goldfields Steam Train Challenge" (train vs bike riders) between Maldon and Castlemaine on Nov 13 could be a good one to cover.

This summer will have a massive grain harvest in the Mallee, so perhaps a run on a grainy to and from the end of a soon to be converted Broad Gauge branch-line (i.e Murrayville/Manangatang/Sea Lake) might be interesting, especially if it's stinking hot.
  trainguy84 Junior Train Controller

Hi

I loved seeing the 1st series over here in NZ.

I would like to see a bit more of behind the scene like building the train up, planning and submitting the train plan with train control, locomotive/wagon maintenance, major/minor overhauls, brief overview of the working aspects of the train,

Carting other good such as coal, steel, vehicles.

Interviews with any key people involved in the Australian railway landscape or people who have been influential. A day in the life of a train driver and how they actually operate a train especially over challenging track conditions.

Either way I'm looking forward to seeing the next series
  seb2351 Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
As a driver, it was good seeing the roles played out by the various people who make the railways work.
But, arguably the most important people were missing: the train controllers. Be great to see them included next time.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
I'd like to see on the things that drivers have to deal with, particularly the things that they can't control such as track/signal faults, incidents at level crossings, people holding up trains and vandalism en route.
  Jordan@Prospero Beginner

The first series was quite good especially how the trains were taken from place to place and how the operation worked.  It might be nice on this occasion to get some action from around queensland, coal trains etc.  This was not covered in the last show.

The idea of accessing trains which are coming and going recorded here http://www.railpage.com.au/railcams would be a nice touch as a lot of work goes on behind the scenes to assist trainspotters.
"x31"


Thanks for that x31, i'll look into those suggestions.
  vinelander Junior Train Controller

Eyre Peninsular railway. The loco exchange between Port Lincoln and Thevenard.
  Grantham Minister for Railways

Location: I'm with stupid!
A train driver's masterchef episode would go off.

Steam crews making sausages and onions on the shovel, freight crews who can make bangers and mash or sweet and sour chicken while slowly loading at a mine, Chinese and pizza places that deliver to level crossings, suburban drivers barely subsisting on takeaway and doughnuts at Central station...and we won't talk about the apple trees or blackberries that grow alongside the line out in the bush. Wink

Some more track ahead shots would be nice too, maybe all the way through the credits?

M
  KRviator Moderator

Location: Up the front
A train driver's masterchef episode would go off.

Steam crews making sausages and onions on the shovel, freight crews who can make bangers and mash or sweet and sour chicken while slowly loading at a mine, Chinese and pizza places that deliver to level crossings, suburban drivers barely subsisting on takeaway and doughnuts at Central station...and we won't talk about the apple trees or blackberries that grow alongside the line out in the bush. Wink
Grantham
So long as you have a hotplate - 4 logbooks help too - you can get incredibly creative. Sadly, our US cousins often don't have so much as a microwave, and have got quite creative about cooking on board, to the point there is the Manifold Menus acookbook, detailing what you can cook on/about the engineroom!

EDIT: Updated the URL
EDIT 2: If that URL doesn't work, try HERE...
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
The first series was quite good especially how the trains were taken from place to place and how the operation worked.  It might be nice on this occasion to get some action from around queensland, coal trains etc.  This was not covered in the last show.

The idea of accessing trains which are coming and going recorded here http://www.railpage.com.au/railcams would be a nice touch as a lot of work goes on behind the scenes to assist trainspotters.


Thanks for that x31, i'll look into those suggestions.
Jordan@Prospero

I think it would be of interest to viewers how train spotters know where the trains are and the railcams can provide a record of the timing via key junctions.  it is quite interesting.
  Just The Tip Junior Train Controller

Location: Danger zone
The first series was quite good especially how the trains were taken from place to place and how the operation worked.  It might be nice on this occasion to get some action from around queensland, coal trains etc.  This was not covered in the last show.

The idea of accessing trains which are coming and going recorded here http://www.railpage.com.au/railcams would be a nice touch as a lot of work goes on behind the scenes to assist trainspotters.


Thanks for that x31, i'll look into those suggestions.

I think it would be of interest to viewers how train spotters know where the trains are and the railcams can provide a record of the timing via key junctions.  it is quite interesting.
x31
I doubt that would be of interest to the general public, which the show should be made for.
I agree with showing more about Railway operations - not only from the drivers perspective, but train control, customers, operations, maintenance, etc.
Also safety should be integrated. Having two 'gunzels' racing a train to get across the next level crossing isn't a good message.

Less railfan - more reality.
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

Maybe look at pointing out the poor alignment on the east coast corridor that both passenger and freight train operators have to put up with. Look at how the inland rail will change the landscape of freight rail.
  Expost Deputy Commissioner

I liked the first series. I feared something like  Railroad Alaska, or Outback Truckers, before the series ran. These "but theres a problem, now its fixed, and now theres another problem" shows give me the peeves so it was a pleasant surprise when the series did run. Yes, there was a little bit of it, because there are issues that we do deal with in the industry, and out on track, but its very rare that its a never ending series of issue after issue after issue.

Coverage of the Central Qld coal network would be of interest, and reinforcing to the general public the importance of safety and the amount of training that we are required to do for our jobs. Safety at level crossings, the inability to stop a train like a car, the potential trauma a driver faces when a vehicle or pedestrian runs a crossing, or worse still, collides with a vehicle or pedestrian. And I have to agree with a previous comment about the 2 train spotters racing a train to a level crossing to get the right shot, that was probably the low point of series one.
  Grantham Minister for Railways

Location: I'm with stupid!
A train driver's masterchef episode would go off.

Steam crews making sausages and onions on the shovel, freight crews who can make bangers and mash or sweet and sour chicken while slowly loading at a mine, Chinese and pizza places that deliver to level crossings, suburban drivers barely subsisting on takeaway and doughnuts at Central station...and we won't talk about the apple trees or blackberries that grow alongside the line out in the bush. Wink
So long as you have a hotplate - 4 logbooks help too - you can get incredibly creative. Sadly, our US cousins often don't have so much as a microwave, and have got quite creative about cooking on board, to the point there is the Manifold Menus acookbook, detailing what you can cook on/about the engineroom!

EDIT: Updated the URL
EDIT 2: If that URL doesn't work, try HERE...
KRviator


If you're really really lucky you have a hotplate and a microwave! And a 240v outlet for an electric frypan.

M
  seb2351 Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
And here's me feeling impressed with my cuppa soup mix for lunch. Clearly I missed TLI4023A Cooking in the loco competency
  Expost Deputy Commissioner

Well, dear me then, Jordan@prospero will simply have to come up to the CQCN. We have fridge, microwave, hotplate, toaster, jug, plus 3 240v power points. All that means we still eat crap for meals, but just in a more creative style.
  Jordan@Prospero Beginner

Thank you to everyone who posted ideas or feedback. It was all quite positive and helpful.

Also, if you hear of anything else that you'd like to see in Railroad Australia 2 be sure to post it here.

Cheers,
Jordan.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Thank you to everyone who posted ideas or feedback. It was all quite positive and helpful.

Also, if you hear of anything else that you'd like to see in Railroad Australia 2 be sure to post it hear and I'll do my best.

Cheers,
Jordan.
Jordan@Prospero
More of the everyday down to earth practical reality and less emphasis on 'contrived potential catastrophes'.
  Impulse-Rail Station Master

Railroad Australia Season 2 will premiere in May,


http://www.discoverychannel.com.au/shows/railroad-australia/
  gordon_s1942 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Tablelands of NSW
There is a very fine line between telling an interesting story and one full of facts no one is interested in.
As a retired Signalman, I used to have visitors of a weekend who would ask what the Bells signals were or what the Electric staff did or the Block instruments and I soon learnt there is a fine line between just giving a plain simple answer or going into a full blown explanation that soon dazzled the asker.
Even those totally mad Train buffs that either recorded engine numbers or took photos of anything that moved were barely interested in other aspects of Railway working I found.
Unfortunately that cliff hanger type of  commentary drags the viewers in even though you and I know its utter crap but its like SEX, just the mention of it in any context SELLS.

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