Grain Harvest 2016/2017

 
  Clyde Goodwin Junior Train Controller

Carnot Thank you for that link & the info on the train that stalled

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  DL_Daily Locomotive Driver

Around 80 wagons on the Qube. I counted the 40 CGSYs after I realised they were behind the others. Looking at my pics here - https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/efb5800/ the WGSY/BYs stretch back to the top of the hill , so around 40 of them. I suggest they are being moved up north as 2 RLs won't be enough to bring all that back loaded.
EFB5800
I believe I may have spotted the WGSY/BYs on train 3367 now 3368 currently heading to Junee after loading out hillston way tuesday.

852/864/???/RL30?/RL30? and not one of them had flat spots, very quiet, too bad my video didn't turn out (out of focus night shot)
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville

Bevans i do not think many expected the crops this year to be so huge the weather conditions just happened to line up exactly right for the farmers
Clyde Goodwin
The Australian Bureau of Agricultural and Resource Economics
provides crop forecasts throughout the year.

Anyone who wasn't expecting a large crop simply wasn't paying attention.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Incidentally, it looks like some of the heat WOLOs are getting relaxed:
http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/story/4393425/green-light-for-trains/?cs=80

"V/Line has eased speed restrictions which apply to its freight network in the state’s north-west.
Freight trains can now operate at 30km/h when temperatures reach 33 degrees. Previously the trains couldn’t run on hot days between midday and 8pm or 10pm.
Lines affected are between Dunolly and Birchip on the Mildura line, and between Echuca and Deniliquin. V/Line is meeting weekly with freight operators with advice and developments."
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
So the knee jerk reaction has been seen for what it is, and common sense has replaced panic.

Nice to see.
  trainbrain Deputy Commissioner

9157 BL32? and G? heading north through Meredith with 40 wagons  at 19.35. 9.1.2017
  SamTheMan79 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Geelong
Incidentally, it looks like some of the heat WOLOs are getting relaxed:
http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/story/4393425/green-light-for-trains/?cs=80

"V/Line has eased speed restrictions which apply to its freight network in the state’s north-west.
Freight trains can now operate at 30km/h when temperatures reach 33 degrees. Previously the trains couldn’t run on hot days between midday and 8pm or 10pm.
Lines affected are between Dunolly and Birchip on the Mildura line, and between Echuca and Deniliquin. V/Line is meeting weekly with freight operators with advice and developments."
Carnot
Common sense prevails.......
  trainbrain Deputy Commissioner

according to the radar there are two Grain trains at Portland G520 and G538 waiting to unload and a Grainne with G511 and G525 currently unloading at the dock.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
So the knee jerk reaction has been seen for what it is, and common sense has replaced panic.

Nice to see.
Gman_86
The question I have is a knee jerk reaction to what?

How is it that Vline are able to make such an arbitrary decision that affected many industry stakeholders seemingly without any consultation?

From the reaction that I have seen everyone in the industry seemed surprised to learn of these new WOLO restrictions

BG
  SamTheMan79 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Geelong
So the knee jerk reaction has been seen for what it is, and common sense has replaced panic.

Nice to see.
The question I have is a knee jerk reaction to what?

How is it that Vline are able to make such an arbitrary decision that affected many industry stakeholders seemingly without any consultation?

From the reaction that I have seen everyone in the industry seemed surprised to learn of these new WOLO restrictions

BG
BrentonGolding
The millions that were spent/lost due to the two derailments in Ouyen in 2015.
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
V/Line has no interest in freight quite frankly.   They are 100% a passenger train operator and have not for a very long time displayed any sense of being pro-active in regard to facilitating regional freight.
  Y115 Chief Train Controller

Location: Portland
according to the radar there are two Grain trains at Portland G520 and G538 waiting to unload and a Grainne with G511 and G525 currently unloading at the dock.
trainbrain
There is one grain train in Portland, G520 and G538.  The other two locos are broadgauge so couldn't possibly be here.
  trainbrain Deputy Commissioner

according to the radar there are two Grain trains at Portland G520 and G538 waiting to unload and a Grainne with G511 and G525 currently unloading at the dock.
There is one grain train in Portland, G520 and G538.  The other two locos are broadgauge so couldn't possibly be here.
Y115
sorry my mistake
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
the two derailments in Ouyen in 2015.
SamTheMan79

Any preliminary cause for these?  Nothing yet on the ATSB website.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
according to the radar there are two Grain trains at Portland G520 and G538 waiting to unload and a Grainne with G511 and G525 currently unloading at the dock.
There is one grain train in Portland, G520 and G538.  The other two locos are broadgauge so couldn't possibly be here.
Y115
When did G511 get converted to Broad Gauge?

Last I knew of it, it was owned by CFCLA, in SSR livery (without decals) and was on the Standard Gauge being used by QUBE for their NSW Riverina grainies.

If it was converted do CFCLA still own it?
Are they still leasing it to QUBE?
Is it still wearing the SSR livery?
  SamTheMan79 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Geelong
the two derailments in Ouyen in 2015.

Any preliminary cause for these?  Nothing yet on the ATSB website.
james.au

The V/Line meet the managers session talking to an engineer and the ATSB are my only sources for this one. That's as much as I know.

As mentioned earlier in the thread and maybe in the Echuca thread I get the feeling this is political.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Maybe I'm a little behind the 8 ball here, but can someone confirm or deny that the Sunshine GrainCorp facility has been decommissioned with a plan to turn it into apartments?
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
Here are the two incidents referred still under investigation by ATSB:

Derailment of freight train 9156 at Ouyen, Victoria on 29 December 2015

Derailment of freight train 9150 at Nunga (near Ouyen), Victoria on 9 November 2015
  SamTheMan79 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Geelong
Here are the two incidents referred still under investigation by ATSB:

Derailment of freight train 9156 at Ouyen, Victoria on 29 December 2015

Derailment of freight train 9150 at Nunga (near Ouyen), Victoria on 9 November 2015
Trainplanner
And add these two completed investigations to the list-

Derailment of grain train 9130 at Emu, Vic, on 12 February 2014 (heat related and finding was- "V/Line is undertaking a review of the current procedure for managing Priority 2 rail creep defects. This will be completed by November 2015.")

Derailment of grain train 9054 near Pyramid Hill, Vic. on 5 March 2013
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

A few things to report today:

- Some of the wagons stored on the Ararat - Avoca line are currently being re-fitted with SG bogies in the Ararat yard.
- An empty Down grainy came through Bendigo overnight (it's been a while).
- Graincorp report record receivals at many of its silos: http://www.graincorp.com.au/_literature_224061/GrainCorp_Confirms_Records_Broken

The Victorian one's listed include:
Charlton, Elmore, Murchison East, Deniliquin, Carwarp, Speed, Wycheproof, Boort, Quambatook, Nhill and Warracknabeal

You would hope they reopen rail access to Murchison East.  What's the status of Elmore these days with respect to rail access?
  Clyde Goodwin Junior Train Controller

Carnot Thank you for that infomation

There is a shortage of semi tipper drivers at the moment in Vic due to the massive crop so a mate who is doing the farms to silos runs told me
  trainbrain Deputy Commissioner

BL30 and G540 approaching Portland with a Grainy and G538 awaiting to depart Nhill with a grainy.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Slight correction to my earlier post - it looks like the Down freight train that came through Bendigo last night was just an empty QUBE rice train to Deni.

Another news story today on heat WOLOs and an interesting statement from PN at the end of this article: http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/national/vline-temperature-restrictions-meltdown-over-rail-rule/news-story/c8999f989150ad2bb39eaef2e66ee618

"Pacific National said near-record volumes of grain were being carted to Victorian ports. December volumes were 2.5 times greater than last December, with 2017 likely to be a record year for grain on rail."
  Clyde Goodwin Junior Train Controller

It would be nice if all the media and railfans would stop Complaining about the heat restrictions out of pure ignorance of the real facts

A 30c air temp is actualy close to 10c to 15c higher at track level as the Blue metal ballast and Steel rails lying in the sun absorb a huge amount of heat

The operating/owning companies do not put these on to annoy Railfans they are on for saftey reasons.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
A few things to report today:

- Some of the wagons stored on the Ararat - Avoca line are currently being re-fitted with SG bogies in the Ararat yard.
Carnot
If the wagons have been stored on the Ararat - Avoca line they would already be on SG bogies as that line is SG.

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