Malcolm Turncoat's imploding act

 
  Showtime Chief Train Controller

I will have to use the Susan Ley defense if I ever decide to "rob a bank" and then get caught.
If I just pay the money back I won't get a fine, go to gaol or lose my job.
Hope the Magistrate remembers it when I front up and I say it's all honky dory now cos I gave it all back!

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  1771D Junior Train Controller

Judith Sloan is the journalist, not the politician.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
She needs to resign before the start of the Parliamentary year, otherwise their will just be a heap of pressure on the Turnbull Govt, if there isn't already!
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  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
MP's; the ultimate "protected species".Who else could get caught fraudulently using other people's money, and then get off by saying "Sorry" and paying it back?
The only commandment they believe is the 11th - "Thou shalt not get caught."
Ms Ley is just another in a long line. The thing that makes me shudder is wondering how many more are getting away with it.
Valvegear
Shudder on - just think of how few snouts are not in the trough.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
The Susan Ley drama is not over, not by a long shot. ABC News is reporting this morning that she's apparently made trips to the Gold Coast before at taxpayer expense where she and her husband already own property and she's refusing to release her diary for public examination:

"Will I allow the media access to go on a fishing expedition, perhaps at the cost of confidentiality of some of the both confidential and commercial in-confidence meetings? No, I won't."

I do love a good "commercial in confidence" claim, it's the wonderful blanket excuse designed to try and stop any public discovery about the real cost of anything. And I wish that I could get fully taxpayer funded flights and accommodation while I waltzed around the country inspecting prospective investment properties. These people certainly live the high life, don't they.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
She has stood aside "until a proper investigation can take place"
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  1771D Junior Train Controller

Some politicians are like footballers.  Potentially they may have a very short career, so they will try to milk it for all they can whilst in the job.  Others are already filthy rich, and lust for more money and power at the expense of others.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

The Susan Ley drama is not over, not by a long shot. ABC News is reporting this morning that she's apparently made trips to the Gold Coast before at taxpayer expense where she and her husband already own property and she's refusing to release her diary for public examination:

"Will I allow the media access to go on a fishing expedition, perhaps at the cost of confidentiality of some of the both confidential and commercial in-confidence meetings? No, I won't."

I do love a good "commercial in confidence" claim, it's the wonderful blanket excuse designed to try and stop any public discovery about the real cost of anything. And I wish that I could get fully taxpayer funded flights and accommodation while I waltzed around the country inspecting prospective investment properties. These people certainly live the high life, don't they.
don_dunstan
Her press conference, was one of the greatest self indulgent pieces of clap trap I've seen.
Just a distraction. Looking forward to returning to my very important work as health minister. I've broken no rules.

if true, the rules NEED changing. That mob in Canberra, just don't get it.

And her replacement during the investigation, wait for it, Sinodinuos.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Some politicians are like footballers.  Potentially they may have a very short career, so they will try to milk it for all they can whilst in the job.  Others are already filthy rich, and lust for more money and power at the expense of others.
1771D
Should things go pear shaped, surely a job on the board of a hospital or pharmaceutical company will appear, or is that commercial in confidence?
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
if true, the rules NEED changing. That mob in Canberra, just don't get it.
michaelgm
I think this is a fundamental part of the problem - Club Burley Griffin is a force that isolates people from the real world of their constituents and they start to think that their own version of reality is the only one that exists. Hence we get people like Joe Hockey who seriously think that they're the "lifters" of society...
Should things go pear shaped, surely a job on the board of a hospital or pharmaceutical company will appear, or is that commercial in confidence?
michaelgm
If she loses her seat next election you would think her experience as Health Minister would make her a shoo-in for lobbying for the pharma or private health insurance industries.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
She is gone! If Turnball allows this to go into the house when it sits and she hasn't been sacked or resigned then he is likely to follow by his own party.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Read this elsewhere, I was amused. Sorry about size.

Jesus, Malcolm, how short a memory do you think we all have? .... Sinodinos. who can't remember whether he is corrupt or not, hasn't been given the green light in my book.... and with his shocking memory he should be receiving health care, not being put in charge of it....although it is for the ageing as well... Surprised you didn't give it to Abbott, he was such a great Minister for Health before....NOT !
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Read this elsewhere, I was amused. Sorry about size.


Jesus, Malcolm, how short a memory do you think we all have? .... Sinodinos. who can't remember whether he is corrupt or not, hasn't been given the green light in my book.... and with his shocking memory he should be receiving health care, not being put in charge of it....although it is for the ageing as well... Surprised you didn't give it to Abbott, he was such a great Minister for Health before....NOT !
michaelgm
That better?
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Much, thank you.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
More coming out all the time about this Susan Ley thing - it emerges that she charged the taxpayer to travel to QLD and attend New Year's Eve parties thrown by businesswoman and prominent Liberal Party donor Sarina Russo in 2013 and 2014 (ABC News); and what a shock to find that Sarina Russo Recruitment is also the beneficiary of large government contracts though the Job Access and Disability Employment Network tenders last year to the value of many millions of dollars.
  1771D Junior Train Controller

And that would be just scratching the surface of most federal MP's questionable and likely corrupt business dealings.   No wonder they can't run the country, they're too busy lining their pockets, and also their mates'.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Someone should call Joe Hockey, "Hey Joe; we've found another Leaner."
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
And that would be just scratching the surface of most federal MP's questionable and likely corrupt business dealings.   No wonder they can't run the country, they're too busy lining their pockets, and also their mates'.
1771D
There's something like $300-$350 million in collective residential property holdings by all our federal MP's according to Lindsay David, Paul Egan and Phillip Soos. If Susan Ley follows the time-honoured tradition of leaving politics to get a plush $250,000+ a year "consultancy" to industry (parliamentary liaison to Sarina Russo?) then she will be looking to write down her tax by having as many residential properties to negatively gear as possible... no wonder so many ex-pollies are multi-millionaires, they know exactly how to stack things in their own favour.

They seem to forget why they're actually there; it's like it's become a shining pathway to corporate riches rather than an opportunity to serve the public.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
As if to emphasise the fact that politicians have no idea, Bronnie Bishop goes onto Sky News tonight and mounts a spirited defence of Susan Ley's use of government travel entitlements (Guardian Australia):

Bishop said when she resigned in 2015 as Speaker of the lower house she had done so because Tony Abbott had asked her to, and said her staff had arranged her travel.

“I can only imagine that Sussan Ley’s travel was done in exactly the same way, but I have no personal knowledge of that,” she said. “But I do know that there are socialists out there who want to attack free enterprise and anyone who sticks up for it. And I know that socialists, like alcoholics, will blame anyone but themselves. And whereas alcoholics can damage their own family, socialists can destroy the whole country.”

What planet does she live on? How are jealous socialists to blame for Susan Ley apparently using work entitlements for personal use - did they force her to do it? Any wonder Tony Abbott had to sack Helicopter Bishop, she really has no clue of why the public get outraged over these matters - scrutiny that she obviously still feels unfairly victimised by.
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
The rules for politician's travel expenses are obviously too confusing for them to work out or too easy to fudge.

They seem to want to go somewhere for a private function, and manufacture a media conference/announcement in the same location to get us to pay for their jaunt.

Time to make it simple - give them $xxx as travel on top of their "wage", depending on cabinet status.   If they go over the allowance, they pay upfront and submit a claim to an independent panel (NOT other politicians) to decide.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
NO! Stuff 'em, they have all routed the system for way too long

NO more travel allowance, they have to submit a proposal to an independent  tribunal prior to travel, and that tribunal will allocate the correct funds if justified.
And that means every polli, from the PM down!
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

It appears Brandis, Ditton, Fifield, and Birmingham billed us to attend Turnballs New Year's Eve party.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/01/09/ministers-bill-taxpayers-attend-pms-private-new-years-eve-function
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

It appears Brandis, Ditton, Fifield, and Birmingham billed us to attend Turnballs New Year's Eve party.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/01/09/ministers-bill-taxpayers-attend-pms-private-new-years-eve-function
michaelgm
Brandis. Now there is a piece of work. Hypocrite.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-09/politicians-entitlements-and-why-they-are-under-fire/8170082- Very interesting article for those who don't understand the Politicians entitlements like me, this explains it pretty clearly I think, and why they need to be changed, some of the things they get away with is ludicrous!
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  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Well it seems as though that they are going to make fixing pollys entitlements, a "top priority of 2017" if you believe SBS/ABC news tonight, seems they are going to fix up the grey areas of what actually is "official business"
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