NODDY242 Station Master

Location: Kiama Region NSW
Train Radar very slow on my mobile at home or on the road
Ok on my home computer
Does anyone have any tips that may help
or is this fairly normal
Signal on the road is generally good +
Regards Noddy

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  M636C Minister for Railways

Train Radar very slow on my mobile at home or on the road
Ok on my home computer
Does anyone have any tips that may help
or is this fairly normal
Signal on the road is generally good +
Regards Noddy
NODDY242
First, what do you mean by "slow"?

There are two factors in play here:

Firstly your mobile (Phone?) probably has a smaller and slower processor than your home computer.
Secondly, the data rate on your mobile may be slower than that on your home system.

The mobile phone signal can vary according to your location. It is usually better in a town, even a small town, than between towns. The Hume Highway is pretty much covered, but not so other roads.

There is a poor signal area near the "top Bridge" just West of Cullerin, for example.

This doesn't just affect Radar, 4Trak is affected the same way.

You have to check the time of the last update to ensure that you are getting current data.

Peter
  marvin Chief Train Controller

Location: Mars... "The Earth? Oh, the Earth will be gone in just a few seconds!"
Noddy, why did you start a new thread here when there is already a 9 page thread on the Railpage Radar... surprisingly also titled "Radar".

You have also done this recently with your "Radar Arrows" thread.

marvin
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  NODDY242 Station Master

Location: Kiama Region NSW
Thanks for the info
I did mine from the OldBurrawang station area..
It was excellent during the week last week
& slow most of the weekend
Both time my signal was 2 bars on 4G
Other sites were fine on all occasions
This week it has been more like the weekend
I guess a high volume of users?
I use Opera Browser with desktop site activated
  NODDY242 Station Master

Location: Kiama Region NSW
Sorry Marvin my mistake on both occasions lack if forums experience
Can you combine or delete the thread
Will b more aware in the future
Frosty
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU

Both time my signal was 2 bars on 4G
NODDY242


2 bars isn't that high.
  NODDY242 Station Master

Location: Kiama Region NSW
Agree its only mediocre but during  the week it was great, yet over the weekend & this week it was blowing smoke..
Had same spot at Burrawang & same signal strength...
  M636C Minister for Railways

Agree its only mediocre but during  the week it was great, yet over the weekend & this week it was blowing smoke..
Had same spot at Burrawang & same signal strength...
NODDY242

What is slow?

Are the train updates not happening regularly?

Are you changing the display and is it slow to refresh?

Are other applications such as e-mail or Facebook turned on? Could these be slowing the Radar update?

I assume you were alongside the line near the Illawarra Highway and not in Burrawang itself...

When I'm in a slow signal area I try to leave a single display up at a suitable scale and just note the movement of trains I'm likely to see.

On an occasion when the data stopped, I was able to calculate when a train just south of Moss Vale would reach North Goulburn (about 45 minutes later) and shot it there.

Being able to estimate the time a train will take to reach your location is important. Having Train Link Regional timetables with you will give you a basis for running times for faster trains like container trains. Fully loaded grain trains climbing grades take a lot longer.

Peter
  mikado5910 Chief Train Controller

Location: Kurri Kurri NSW
Noddy, the mobile strength in the region around Moss Vale is notoriously variable as I have found in my regular visits over recent years. You can be in the same place on different days with wildly varying results. Bundanoon is notorious for this as are parts to the east around Robertson.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
The new maps are more detailed than the older ones maybe using more processor ?
  NODDY242 Station Master

Location: Kiama Region NSW
Thanks appreciate your feedback guys I think all your suggestions apply one way or another...
On Thursday I was at the Werai bends around 12noon & got 1 bar of 3G
in the afternoon around 3pm & the same spot 3bars of 4G
Exeter station terrible & speaking with a ARTC guy at Exeter he said they experience similar problems  for some of there equipment.
Sounds like some  of you guys have had a bit to do with the area does anyone know how you can a good picture of a long Intermodal on the up side apart from just over the bridge,I am trying to do a "wide angle" shot to get as much as some of those 2km long container trains..
Regards Noddy
  marvin Chief Train Controller

Location: Mars... "The Earth? Oh, the Earth will be gone in just a few seconds!"
Noddy, two of the big deals with mobile broadband (phone/data) reception is whether you are connected to 3G or 4G... which you are finding out. 4G is obviously better.

Sometimes the tower will drop back from 4G to 3G for technical reasons or because of work being done on the tower.

The other factor is congestion. The more people using the tower the slower it will be. This is especially noticeable on school days at the end of the day, and becomes worse into the evening. (Noted that you are also connecting during the school holidays.)

You were in a regional area and had reasonable reception during the week, but worse on the weekend. This may be because there are more people out and about using their mobile devices. Congestion may be the problem here.

Also as had been noticed earlier, regional reception can be flaky.

BTW... Telstra, Optus or Vodaphone

marvin
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BTW, no problems regarding the additional threads.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
I would also add respecting other posts which have been good to try firefox as the browser on your mobile device.  We have reports this works a little better.
  NODDY242 Station Master

Location: Kiama Region NSW
Thanks Marvin I have Telstra
Your summation was excellent & appreciated..
Noddy
  NODDY242 Station Master

Location: Kiama Region NSW
I have tried all browsers Bevan's, Safari (No Good)Chrome, Opera & Firefox, Dolphin  much of a muchness...Have stuck with Dolphin for the moment which is slick when reception is ok
  7334 Chief Commissioner

Location: In the workshop wondering why I started 7334 in the first place
I have been trying to use radar on an iPad mini and it is not working properly.

I am using Safari as the browser and while it opens radar it tends to freeze up pretty quickly.  The site also asks whether I want to allow Railpage to use an additional 5 or 10MB of space and while I answer "increase" it promptly asks again, then repeatedly.

I doubt that the reception is an issue as I was trying this at home using my (Telstra) service via the mobile hotspot on my phone as the data source.  I have previously done the same thing with my laptop and it (radar) worked fine if at times a little slowly.

I have read back a way through the forum and note that NODDY242 found that Safari was not good and my next effort might be to try firefox.

I am wondering whether anyone else has had the issue with the repeated requests to allow greater memory use and if so am I missing something?

Thanks in advance, 7334
  marvin Chief Train Controller

Location: Mars... "The Earth? Oh, the Earth will be gone in just a few seconds!"
Noddy,

On android devices (phone, tablet, etc.) you might find that the Train Radar works better if you go to the settings... usually three vertical squares or three horizontal bars in the browser (usually top right hand side). Press, then scroll down to "Request desktop site" (eg: Chrome) and check/tick the box

Some browsers will work better like this, some not.

marvin
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Edit: the above may also apply to fruit-phones and fruit-pads.
You may need to play around in the browser to get the desktop setting.
  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
I am wondering whether anyone else has had the issue with the repeated requests to allow greater memory use and if so am I missing something?
7334
In a nutshell: browsers not supporting ratified and mature web standards.

And before those on iOS claim that Chrome etc. should work, well, no: all web browsers on iOS use Safari's rendering engine.
  Big J Chief Train Controller

Location: In Paradise
I am wondering whether anyone else has had the issue with the repeated requests to allow greater memory use and if so am I missing something?
In a nutshell: browsers not supporting ratified and mature web standards.

And before those on iOS claim that Chrome etc. should work, well, no: all web browsers on iOS use Safari's rendering engine.
michaelgreenhill
Awesome Michael, a reason. Thanks for the explanation. I will avoid the iOS devices for it.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
I will avoid the iOS devices for it.
Big J
I avoid iOS devices at all times... Wink
  CatchingOutOz Beginner

How do you make the radar update says technical issues.
  CatchingOutOz Beginner

Now working thanks.

How do I set up a train to follow and have it notify me when the train is near stations that are of interest?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Thanks for your query and welcome aboard.

You can set up a watch zone covering the area of interest and you will be advised of trains entering the watch area.  It is not yet possible to watch a location as such but this is being discussed as a possible feature of the service.

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