Why would Melbourne be the natural loading point? It is two hours from Shep. to Barnawartha. Half an hour unloading and the truck is back in Shep. for tucker break. Two trips a day is far more productive than the three hour trip to Laverton (if the ring road is behaving) plus, often an hour or so in the queue to unload at SCT. It all means only one round trip on a driver's shift.Until now, a lot of SPC and other Goulburn Valley products have been trucked to Melbourne for loading onto the Perth bound train.Do you mean Brisbane here? Because Melbourne seems to be a natural loading point for Perth freight from the GV instead of Barnawartha (though i wonder if/when it is SG if SCT would look to load in the Goulburn Valley).
The structure of SCT's network is falling in to place rather nicely. You need to draw a circle around each depot to see the catchment. Depots like Dooen and Barnawartha help to fill in the gaps. The efficiency of rail is a big winner once you get the product on to the rail wagon. It is efficient to take it the shortest distance by truck, even if that is sometimes backwards, as the cost of trucking is much higher per kilometre.
Fair point, i was thinking though by going to Barnawartha you are adding a good few hundred km of travel, plus, a few more hours of travel time. Both of these would add cost to the journey for that freight. But if it is offset by the reduction in cost by removing the longer trucking time to Laverton, then it may well be more efficient.
What loading would be available for a train from Melbourne to Parkes ?
There is no SCT rail service between Melbourne and Parkes unless it goes via Adelaide. There is occasions where trucks will deliver loading from Parkes to Melbourne and vice versa where circumstances require. Barnawartha loading goes to Melbourne for adding to the Perth train. It can now also go direct to Brisbane. There is no Sydney rail depot and no plan for one, so far as I am aware.Is all loading to Parkes for shipment to Perth brought in by Road?
What loading would be available for a train from Melbourne to Parkes ?
Stuff going to Brisbane
Whooosh right over the keeper's headWhat loading would be available for a train from Melbourne to Parkes ?
Stuff going to Brisbane
That goes via Syd on a train all the way to Bris at the moment no?? Railing to Parkes and then trucking from there doesnt make sense does it?
So if I have got this right, NSW rail freight to/from QLD or Vic runs to Adelaide then into Parkes?The only way out for rail freight to/from Qld now is via Sydney, I think its been a long time the back door route to Parkes was used. Sandy Hollow or what ever its called.
Will SCT build in Sydney ?Already discussed in this or another thread.
Why do they use Parkes ?
This thread is like a hamster running inside its wheel.Maybe because we don't all have your insight Bing. And because people post incorrect / misleading information which then confuses the Meerkat out of us!
This thread is like a hamster running inside its wheel.Maybe because we don't all have your insight Bing. And because people post incorrect / misleading information which then confuses the Meerkat out of us!
Looking at a 2014 NSW rail map it looks like there are 2 different ARTC routes that could be taken by this service, From Cootamundra north via Parkes, Narromine, Dubbo, Merrygoen to the Gap or via the Main South (I presume that is) through Sydney and then up to Werris Creek.
Does the new SCT service (and indeed the Aurizon service) run via the Parkes Route or the Sydney Route?
I (possibly incorrectly) assumed that it ran via Parkes which would facilitate the movement of GV produce from Barnawatha to Perth / Adelaide via the Broken Hill / Trans Australia route. Following comments then muddied the waters a little leading to the quicksand in which I find myself now.
BG
Thank you, that's great.
New service is Melbourne-Albury-(Goulburn) - Sydney-Brisbane.
It would be good if we could consign any further mention of Parkes in this thread to the'Armchair Operators' forum
But, previously Brisbane-Adelaide/Perth traffic would be roaded to Parkes then proceed via rail to Perth via Broekn Hill. SCT now have the option of running it by rail all the way via Melbourne and Adelaide OR they can continue to road it via Parkes OR they can do both - whichever works out cheaper or more efficient.
SCT have a road depot in Sydney they have NO CURRENT plans to open up a rail terminal in Sydney.
Thank you, that's great.
Apologies in advance for mentioning the P word again but one more silly Q, if there was enough loading going to Perth and Brisbane combined would it be possible for them to run via the Parkes route to Brisvegas, or am I reading the map incorrectly?
BG
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Many here seem to forget that SCT is an intermodal company that runs a large fleet of trucks as well as trains.Thankyou,
Management of SCT have always maintained that they will use the best form of transport to suit their customers needs. (read that as the most efficient form - in both cost and versatility)
And as to their weekly return service from Goobang Junction to Perth (7GP1/3PG1) and weekly return Goobang Junction to Port Augusta/Adelaide (3GX1/2AG1), I can assure everyone that these 1800m trains certainly ain't hauling sail boat fuel!
Notice how I cunningly avoided the use of the word Park.....
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