London terrorist attack: What we know and what we don't know

 
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Police investigations are ongoing into an attack in London on Wednesday. Here's what we do and don't know at this stage.
What we know:
  • A multi-pronged attack in London has claimed the lives of five people on Wednesday, including that of the suspected attacker.
  • The attack began when a vehicle hit a number of people on the Westminster Bridge in central London just after 2.30pm.
  • The car then crashed outside the parliament, and the man got out of the vehicle and ran through the parliament gates, before stabbing a police officer.
  • The assailant was shot by police and has since died from his injuries.
  • Police have said they know the identity of the attacker, but they have not named him.
  • Police said in a news conference they believed the attacker was inspired by international terrorism.
  • Attempts were made to resuscitate the police officer by first responders and by Tory MP Tobias Ellwood, but he passed away. At least three other civilians have also died as a result of the attack.
  • The police officer who died has been named as Keith Palmer, a 48-year-old husband and father with 15 years experiences.
  • At least 40 people were injured in the attack, many on Westminster Bridge. One woman was pulled alive but suffering serious injuries from the River Thames. She is believed to have jumped or fallen into the water as the attack unfolded.
  • Among the 20 injured victims are three French teenagers on a school visit, and three police officers on their way back from a commendation ceremony. Two of the teenagers are in a critical condition.
  • Scotland Yard has declared the attack a terrorist incident and a counter-terrorism investigation is under way.
  • Australian Foreign Minister Julie Bishop said that no Australians had been identified as being involved.
What we don't know
  • The identity of the attacker is not yet known publicly. Scotland Yard's assistant commissioner Mark Rowley said they know his identity, but it has not been released.
  • The motive for the attack. While police say they believe the attacker was inspired by international terrorism, there is no evidence yet as to what motivated the assailant. Neither IS or other terror groups have claimed responsibility.
  • Whether the assailant acted alone. Assistant commissioner Rowley said police were working on the presumption the man was the sole attacker, but investigations were continuing.
  • The identity of the victims is not yet known. Five people were killed, including the attacker, a police officer and two people hit by the vehicle on the bridge. One woman became trapped under the wheels of a bus, after she was struck by the attacker's vehicle. Details of the fourth and fifth victims are not known.

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  Carnot Chief Commissioner

A photo of the attacker gives away his ideology.  Of course many will provide a raft of other reasons for why he did it, but that's no comfort to those who have been victims of this heinous crime.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
We also know the vehicle used as a weapon was a Hyundai...
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
We also know the vehicle used as a weapon was a Hyundai...
Graham4405
At least ISIS uses Toyota's in Syria.

Seriously, just goes to show you these days that anyone hell bent on causing some sort of destruction of any kind doesn't need to hijack a plane and the simplicity of many recent attacks makes it that much more difficult to prevent.
  theanimal Chief Commissioner

Can we just get over it?

4 people died.

Last weekend I believe 5 people died in Victoria in car accidents, why are we not starting threads about that, beating our chests and wailing?
  theanimal Chief Commissioner

Can we just get over it?

4 people died.

Last weekend I believe 5 people died in Victoria in car accidents, why are we not starting threads about that, beating our chests and wailing?
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
Can we just get over it?

4 people died.

Last weekend I believe 5 people died in Victoria in car accidents, why are we not starting threads about that, beating our chests and wailing?
theanimal
Simple, a terror attack is a criminal act. An accident is just that, an accident. Whilst all deaths are sad (a mate died from cancer just yesterday), when they are a result of such an act it is an outrage. Oh, and 5 people died and 40+ were injured.
  theanimal Chief Commissioner

Can we just get over it?

4 people died.

Last weekend I believe 5 people died in Victoria in car accidents, why are we not starting threads about that, beating our chests and wailing?
Simple, a terror attack is a criminal act. An accident is just that, an accident. Whilst all deaths are sad (a mate died from cancer just yesterday), when they are a result of such an act it is an outrage. Oh, and 5 people died and 40+ were injured.
Graham4405
in the last 30 days there have been 122 islamic attacks in 23 countries in which 902 people died and 1053 were injured.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=Last30

https://www.pri.org/stories/2016-03-22/paris-there-have-been-hundreds-terrorist-attacks-many-have-gone-unnoticed

in 1 attack 74 people died. yet here you are getting upset about originally now 5 deaths?

Does your moral compass not consider deaths in middle east countries as worthy of your compassion?
  woodford Chief Commissioner

Can we just get over it?

4 people died.

Last weekend I believe 5 people died in Victoria in car accidents, why are we not starting threads about that, beating our chests and wailing?
Simple, a terror attack is a criminal act. An accident is just that, an accident. Whilst all deaths are sad (a mate died from cancer just yesterday), when they are a result of such an act it is an outrage. Oh, and 5 people died and 40+ were injured.
in the last 30 days there have been 122 islamic attacks in 23 countries in which 902 people died and 1053 were injured.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=Last30

https://www.pri.org/stories/2016-03-22/paris-there-have-been-hundreds-terrorist-attacks-many-have-gone-unnoticed

in 1 attack 74 people died. yet here you are getting upset about originally now 5 deaths?

Does your moral compass not consider deaths in middle east countries as worthy of your compassion?
theanimal
An opinion piece, you have been warned..................................

Its not about getting upset over 5 road deaths, the road toll in Australia for 2016 is something like 1300 killed and around 10 times that number seriously injured and whose lives will NEVER be the same and almost NOTHING is said about at and all the misery caused and here we are getting upset over a relative handfull of terrorist deaths.

Note if we could drop the road toll be a factor of 10 we would save the country MANY billions of dollars and we would all be better off, but we go on voluntarily sacrificing mostly young people to the gods of automobile transport.....................who ever said human sacrifice had been banned........................... and its effectively voluntary.

woodford
  woodford Chief Commissioner

Theanimal said..............

"in the last 30 days there have been 122 islamic attacks in 23 countries in which 902 people died and 1053 were injured"

In the USA and Europe alone something like 160 people are killed on the roads a DAY, thats 4800 a month and thats just the people killed, the number of injured will be in the 40,000 to 50,000 range................................ and  again LITTLE is said about ll this misery.

woodford
  woodford Chief Commissioner

Post Script to the above..................

Injury statistics are not usually published, the figures I have come up with in the above posts are based on detailed injury stats for Victoria, published by one of Victoria's universities.

woodford
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
The idea of comparing deliberate terror-related deaths with road fatalities strikes me as fatuous in the extreme. Nobody likes sudden, unexpected deaths, but there is a huge difference between somebody who sets out with a plan to kill as many people as he can with a car, and somebody whose incompetent driving kills.
The former is premeditated murder; the latter is accident or culpability.
The former is ideologically driven; the latter is not.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
in the last 30 days there have been 122 islamic attacks in 23 countries in which 902 people died and 1053 were injured.

in 1 attack 74 people died. yet here you are getting upset about originally now 5 deaths?

Does your moral compass not consider deaths in middle east countries as worthy of your compassion?
theanimal

I'm upset by any and all deaths, but unless I'm notified of them I don't know about them. Please feel free to notify me of each death that occurs on the planet and I'll get appropriately compassionate...

Oh, and while we are singling out Islamic attacks, how many millions have so called christians killed in wars?
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Some hard data if anyone is willing to dig deeper (this is from 3 years ago): http://www.pewforum.org/2014/01/14/religious-hostilities-reach-six-year-high/

Note which countries are beset with this problem.

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