Opposition leader Bill Shorten says Melbourne Airport rail link is a ‘no brainer’

 

News article: Opposition leader Bill Shorten says Melbourne Airport rail link is a ‘no brainer’

OPPOSITION Leader Bill Shorten has heaped pressure on Premier Daniel Andrews to commit to building an airport rail link, describing the long-awaited project as a “no-brainer”.

  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
I think two aspects are obvious in this news item one being the pressure being placed on Daniel Andrews to get onboard quicker.  The idea we should wait for 30 years for this rail line clearly shows the issues within Infrastructure Victoria as that statement could not be more wrong when the business case now is $1.60 for every 41 invested in the rail link.

The second aspect is Shorten will now work with Turnbull to make it happen which is a bipartisan approach to policy and funding which is quite refreshing leaving Turnbull no where to go on the issue except with delivery.

it is going to be impossible for Daniel Andrews (Humpty Dumpty) to come out and hose down the project as every man and their cat knows it is required.

Melbourne is in the top 50 busiest airports globally and the only airport in a major capital city in the country where the rail link does not exist.  Daniel Andrews has resisted this project in favour of his personal agenda but thankfully this time it looks like his pushing  back and preventing this project from being delivered to the benefit of all Victorians will be cut off.

Opposition leader Bill Shorten says Melbourne Airport rail link is a ‘no brainer’

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  Lockspike Deputy Commissioner

Daniel Andrews has resisted this project in favour of his personal agenda but thankfully this time it looks like his pushing  back and preventing this project from being delivered to the benefit of all Victorians will be cut off.
x31
If this comes off (and I do think it is only political grandstanding to make the Andrews government squirm) it will not be the first time Canberra has pressed a rail project unwanted by a Victorian government, the NE std gauge being a huge one.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Daniel Andrews has resisted this project in favour of his personal agenda but thankfully this time it looks like his pushing  back and preventing this project from being delivered to the benefit of all Victorians will be cut off.
If this comes off (and I do think it is only political grandstanding to make the Andrews government squirm) it will not be the first time Canberra has pressed a rail project unwanted by a Victorian government, the NE std gauge being a huge one.
Lockspike

You may be right but the people want it and Andrews is not listening because he has been protecting the route.  There is no legitimate reason why this project should not be started right now if you consider the return to the economy.
  Tony M. Locomotive Fireman

It seems more likely that a): Turnbull will offer a token sum with a lot of "get on with it" hand-waving, b): Andrews will say "thanks but that's nowhere near enough, why don't you cough up Victoria's fair share of the infrastructure funds, maybe then we could get it done", c): Shorten will say "Yeah Turnbull, why are you constantly short-changing Victoria, I was willing to help out but this clearly isn't enough money to get it done, worst PM ever" and d): nothing will happen.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
It seems more likely that a): Turnbull will offer a token sum with a lot of "get on with it" hand-waving, b): Andrews will say "thanks but that's nowhere near enough, why don't you cough up Victoria's fair share of the infrastructure funds, maybe then we could get it done", c): Shorten will say "Yeah Turnbull, why are you constantly short-changing Victoria, I was willing to help out but this clearly isn't enough money to get it done, worst PM ever" and d): nothing will happen.
Tony M.
You forgot e) Shorten will get in to Government, order an IA enquiry into the Melbourne Airport Rail link and then spend the whole term of Government not building it but claiming they are "getting on with it" and that it is "shovel ready" and blaming the last government because their preferred route involved bulldozing 2 houses and a dog kennel in a Labour electorate.

I mean really, it is a no brainer that Bill Shorten thinks that Melbourne Airport rail link is a no brainer - he is in opposition! What did he do to support it when he was in government?

BG
  steve195 Train Controller

Daniel Andrews has resisted this project in favour of his personal agenda but thankfully this time it looks like his pushing  back and preventing this project from being delivered to the benefit of all Victorians will be cut off.
If this comes off (and I do think it is only political grandstanding to make the Andrews government squirm) it will not be the first time Canberra has pressed a rail project unwanted by a Victorian government, the NE std gauge being a huge one.

You may be right but the people want it and Andrews is not listening because he has been protecting the route.  There is no legitimate reason why this project should not be started right now if you consider the return to the economy.
x31
Is there actually any modelling that shows that it will bring a positive return to the economy?

Did the builder/owner of the Sydney airport line not go broke early on?
The Brisbane one was hardly a success early on as well - and it still carries less than 10% of airport passengers.

Just because the majority of people think it's a good idea doesn't make it a great financial decision.

PS I think it should be built. Just playing devil's advocate.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Speaking of Devil's Advocate.
Given Metro's level of reliability every time it rains or the wind blows how could one rely on a Metro service or combination of Metro services to get you to Tullamarine in time for a flight to Europe or the US? One would need to catch a train the day before!!
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Speaking of Devil's Advocate.
Given Metro's level of reliability every time it rains or the wind blows how could one rely on a Metro service or combination of Metro services to get you to Tullamarine in time for a flight to Europe or the US? One would need to catch a train the day before!!
YM-Mundrabilla
I doubt that Metro would be involved. I see it as a stand alone proposition with it's own operator and it's own rolling stock. Or Vline if it is extended to meet the Bendigo Line near Clarkefield as I think it should be. Not that Vline is a great advertisement for Public Transport either, they couldn't raffle a meat tray in a pub.

BG
  Rossco T Chief Train Controller

Location: Camberwell, Victoria
Is there actually any modelling that shows that it will bring a positive return to the economy?

Did the builder/owner of the Sydney airport line not go broke early on?
The Brisbane one was hardly a success early on as well - and it still carries less than 10% of airport passengers.
steve195
When it comes to running public transport I don't think that there should be any expectation that the service should run at a profit.  Correct me if I am wrong, but I seem to recall reading that the cost recovery of passenger rail in Victoria is something like 20 to 25% of operating costs.

I don't know what the arrangement was with the private operator in Sydney, but clearly if the operator went broke that is not the sort of arrangement we should have in Melbourne.

Public transport is a service after all, just like the Government uses taxpayer funds to build and maintain roads for people to drive on, without any direct form of cost recovery.

Ross

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