Auscision Models Blog

 
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".

Surprise! Undecorated 86's available from Australian Modeller. Be quick before they sell out. Oops, you were too slow and all the candy ones have gone in less than 5hrs! https://www.australianmodeller.com.au/collections/auscision-models?sort_by=created-descending
Poath
Should that not read un-numbered 86 class as undecorated to most means just a bare plastic body no paint work at all on it! But we get the drift though!

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  Booly Junior Train Controller

Received the letter about sound on the 48's today . The cut-off date is June 30 .
  c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

Location: in the cuckoos nest
Received the letter about sound on the 48's today . The cut-off date is June 30 .
Booly
My first letter arrived today also. As I have one each of the 48/830/S2n's on order it looks as though I will be getting a total of three letters.

I was actually expecting my letters to be emailed.

Very good of Auscision to subsidise AP in this way.

Happy mailing,

John
  Lazarus Train Controller

Location: Missouri, USA
If they're mailing mine it'll take a while ūüėē At least I can e-mail them my updated order once I get it.
  c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

Location: in the cuckoos nest
My second letter was received today. This is for the both the 830/S2n locos, so all letters have now been received.

Now how many locos should I get equipped with the ESU sound option?

Happy deliberating,

John
  Roachie Chief Commissioner

Location: Kadina SA (formerly NSW)
Rec'd my 3 letters today (6x 48 and 1x 830) and have completed the forms, scanned them and emailed them back to Auscision.

$700- for seven ESU decoders..... = BARGAIN.

Roachie
  brissim Chief Train Controller

Product Update on Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/auscisionmodels/

The pre-order V Sets have been posted out. While not yet available from the Auscison site, I note they are listed on the Australian Modeller site.

Tony
  c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

Location: in the cuckoos nest
Product Update on Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/auscisionmodels/

The pre-order V Sets have been posted out. While not yet available from the Auscison site, I note they are listed on the Australian Modeller site.

Tony
brissim
Now available on the Auscision website.  NPS-35 has sold out.

Happy goosing,

John
  trainguy84 Junior Train Controller

Hi

They are available in store at Australian Modeller this Saturday or online now

They look amazing.

Update on the Auscision Facebook page last night


1. All pre-ordered V-Sets have been posted out and the balance of stock will be available from our website this week and from the Australian Modeller store from this Saturday.

2. We are airfreight in just enough Car Carriers to cover the balance of our orders so we can get them out before the Thornleigh Exhibition on the June long weekend. The rest of the stock will arrive mid to late June.


3. Our GY Open Wagon re-run will also arrive mid to late June along with the NCOF Coil Wire Wagons and Wire Loads.

4. A Class unfortunately missed our last container shipment and was held up at the ports in Hong Kong. These will now arrive mid to late June.

5. Remember that there is a June 30 deadline on the 48/830 sound and we must receive your letter back before then if you wish to add sound.

6. One last reminder. We cannot express how important it is to pre-order your models early with Auscision Models. This locks your order in and guarantees you get the models of your choice. It also allows us to order enough models to cover the demand for that particular model. In the past customers have missed out because we haven't made enough of a particular model because they didn't pre-order.
To avoid missing out, order early with Auscision Models a Model Railway Company you can trust that's been around for over 10 years and produced more than 1000 items for the Australian Model Railway scene.
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
Dear All
Pre-Ordering is a sore point among modellers badly burnt by some importers in the past
I was prety angry about waiting 8 years for an $1100 pre-order from one importer, but heard others have waited over 10 and still don't have a thing..Ugh!

I have no problem paying Auscision in advance, however I generally just take advantage of the early bird price anytime up until it finishes. This is absolutely no help to Peter in helping him with his orders on the factory though, is it?

But for me it means I don't have to tie up money for a few years and end up missing out on something else that comes available out of the blue.

I wish Auscision would think about this   But why not do it the way the Yanks do?

You pre-order the locomotives (example from Broadway Limited) and let them take out of your Visa a dollar  maybe, to hold the loco and number you want. Its a firm contract sealed with the dollar, that guarantees your order will be filled. The early bird price is as it is now, but limited to those who took out pre-orders, and  who pay before the cut off to get the savings.
If financially you cannot take up the model, talk with Importer or sell your order to someone who missed out on the pre-order.
How many might default? After a few uses of this selling system, statistics will aid Auscision to set their run sizes properly. The advantage is that without investing a lot, Auscision know what their build should be? And customers should have no complaints

The real problem is  finding the time to process another step into the sale.
Cheers
Rod
  trainguy84 Junior Train Controller

Hi

Auscision have stated that pre orders are only available once the project is  50 - 80% complete, so all the designing is done and in some circumstances tooling and painted samples have arrived and checked for accuracy. This allows them to have more control so that time does not run away, and you end up waiting.
  Iain Chief Commissioner

Location: Concord, NSW
I agree with Rod and lets not be shy Eureka are the main culprits with continual delays which seem to be caused by everyone (in China) except them. At least they didn't go bust like Shrike. There are a few Auscision Models with delays such as the Tait sets - these seem to have disappeared presumably through lack of interest.  

Iain
  kingfisher Chief Train Controller

I agree with Rod and lets not be shy Eureka are the main culprits with continual delays which seem to be caused by everyone (in China) except them. At least they didn't go bust like Shrike. There are a few Auscision Models with delays such as the Tait sets - these seem to have disappeared presumably through lack of interest.  

Iain
Iain
Difference being that Auscision has never accepted any money for the Tait's.
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
Hi

Auscision have stated that pre orders are only available once the project is  50 - 80% complete, so all the designing is done and in some circumstances tooling and painted samples have arrived and checked for accuracy. This allows them to have more control so that time does not run away, and you end up waiting.
trainguy84
I don't believe that is a difference at all, actually. The Company worked out that XYZ was going to be the popular model  and sets a 250 build number and 150 Build number for the rest. They quickly sell out of the XYZ discovering too late that they could have built 400 of them to cover demand.
Using the dollar pre-order they have plenty of time to adjust the numbers at the factory giving them a whole bunch of happy customers?  And that's exactly why Broadway Limited sell this way. I have read interviews in US Forums about this.
Cheers
Rod
  catchpoint Assistant Commissioner

Location: At the end of a loop
Dear All
Pre-Ordering is a sore point among modellers badly burnt by some importers in the past
I was prety angry about waiting 8 years for an $1100 pre-order from one importer, but heard others have waited over 10 and still don't have a thing..Ugh!

I have no problem paying Auscision in advance, however I generally just take advantage of the early bird price anytime up until it finishes. This is absolutely no help to Peter in helping him with his orders on the factory though, is it?

But for me it means I don't have to tie up money for a few years and end up missing out on something else that comes available out of the blue.

I wish Auscision would think about this   But why not do it the way the Yanks do?

You pre-order the locomotives (example from Broadway Limited) and let them take out of your Visa a dollar  maybe, to hold the loco and number you want. Its a firm contract sealed with the dollar, that guarantees your order will be filled. The early bird price is as it is now, but limited to those who took out pre-orders, and  who pay before the cut off to get the savings.
If financially you cannot take up the model, talk with Importer or sell your order to someone who missed out on the pre-order.
How many might default? After a few uses of this selling system, statistics will aid Auscision to set their run sizes properly. The advantage is that without investing a lot, Auscision know what their build should be? And customers should have no complaints

The real problem is  finding the time to process another step into the sale.
Cheers
Rod
comtrain


You have said / proposed something similar to this before (and my time is better spent not searching for it in this thread)

There appears to be no point telling us out here in the ether.

So "What was Auscision's response when you put this to them"?...................................

Really, how is a $ one (1) dollar holding payment going to make any difference to Auscision having a completed early bird order form in their possession to confirm that a model will go ahead and be delivered to the person ordering?

What happens if the model does not go ahead someone at Auscision has to reprocess refunds of $1 through credit card providers or EFT, how much does that cost their business to process this?

Just because "if aint done the way they do it in the States" does not mean it does not work how Auscision choose to run their business - remembering that they have successfully brought us many products to market and thankfully to date they seem to be one of the better / trusted / proven producers.

Regards,

Catchpoint
  ssaunders Train Controller



You have said / proposed something similar to this before (and my time is better spent not searching for it in this thread)

There appears to be no point telling us out here in the ether.

So "What was Auscision's response when you put this to them"?...................................

Really, how is a $ one (1) dollar holding payment going to make any difference to Auscision having a completed early bird order form in their possession to confirm that a model will go ahead and be delivered to the person ordering?

What happens if the model does not go ahead someone at Auscision has to reprocess refunds of $1 through credit card providers or EFT, how much does that cost their business to process this?

Just because "if aint done the way they do it in the States" does not mean it does not work how Auscision choose to run their business - remembering that they have successfully brought us many products to market and thankfully to date they seem to be one of the better / trusted / proven producers.

Regards,

Catchpoint
catchpoint

The one dollar gives the supplier the card details which can be debited when the models arrive. Should the supplier change their mind on production then there is a bit of effort to the customer. Not a problem if you want long term loyalty both ways.

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  trainguy84 Junior Train Controller

Hi

Its difficult to predict demand, I doubt that $1 dollar deposit will be anywhere enough to prevent people deciding that they no longer want the loco. I'm sure that Auscision doesn't want to tie up money in a warehouse full of models that will be sold down the track sometime. Tying money up in a warehouse of models will only lead to less models being produced.

I'm happy with the current system of pre ordering, it allows me to get the models that I want.
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
A U.S. retailer (factory direct trains / FDT) offers a 1 cent pre-order system for various brands they pre-order / stock in an effort to get you to order from them instead of another hobby shop. For every similar deal you find I could name 100 US model railroad retail businesses that don't offer such a deal.  FDT are the exception not the norm, their 1c deal is to get you to buy a product (such as BLI or Walthers limited editions) through them when the same products will also be available from other retailers for the same final price. Note: The manufacturer/importer BLI don't deal direct with customers for pre-ordering, they leave all that messy paperwork up to their retail dealer network. An Australian analogy for BLI is Powerline, you pre-order via retail shops (either "bricks and mortar" or online presence only).

Perhaps you should head over to your local hobby shop (the analogy of FDT) who stocks & pre-orders Auscision (or Powerline) models and demand they do a 1c (or even $1) pre-order deal else "I'll take my money elsewhere".
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
A U.S. retailer (factory direct trains / FDT) offers a 1 cent pre-order system for various brands they pre-order / stock in an effort to get you to order from them instead of another hobby shop. For every similar deal you find I could name 100 US model railroad retail businesses that don't offer such a deal.  FDT are the exception not the norm, their 1c deal is to get you to buy a product (such as BLI or Walthers limited editions) through them when the same products will also be available from other retailers for the same final price. Note: The manufacturer/importer BLI don't deal direct with customers for pre-ordering, they leave all that messy paperwork up to their retail dealer network. An Australian analogy for BLI is Powerline, you pre-order via retail shops (either "bricks and mortar" or online presence only).

Perhaps you should head over to your local hobby shop (the analogy of FDT) who stocks & pre-orders Auscision (or Powerline) models and demand they do a 1c (or even $1) pre-order deal else "I'll take my money elsewhere".
Poath Junction
I Tried to help with some positives, but the usual negatives are still out there Very Happy
All I am saying is that in the last 10 years and more, manufacturer/importers have tried to buy in enough product to supply the demand and thus maximize their profits, and at the same time, not have the need to maintain a warehouse.
To them warehousing is a cost they can eliminate (just as all modern manufacturers do today) Its actually not customer friendly, only business friendly.
At first they tried to get shops to pay for and stock product, but after a few years of direct sales, few hobby shops were now able to lay out the capital for anything other than pre-sold items.  A Hobby shop in Sydney or Melbourne has a huge population to draw customers from, 8 million I guess? but not everybody lives there do they?
Some tried consignments, which my shop did take up. However they are now regarded as too small to service, and have lost this agency. Despite having 60 or more locomotives in their show case!
Do existing methods work?  Well if you (as a customer) have inexhaustible supplies of cash, I guess you think they do. But for many of the customers this is no longer an option. In my case, I cannot find cash any minute a manufacturer calls for deposits, but I may be able to put away enough to buy the product by the time they arrive, 2 years later. I think lots more folk are in this class than those in this place, responding in the negative here think.
The tone of the negatives here is typical Railpage, and some times I wonder what some of you young ones do all day. I at least have an excuse. I am 71  years old.

Remember also Auscision seem to always sell out of some stock, a lot of the time on arrival in Australia.
This frustrates customers (who for good reasons could not pre-order)
And if 100 miss out, only part select another model, Auscision as a business must feel frustrated by their loss of sales.
You can see this, because after some prices go ballistic on EBay,  limited numbers are re-run a year or two down the track, as is happening now with several re-releases.
Cheers
Rod
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
"Auscision will be at the Thornleigh Model Railway Exhibition over the June long weekend 10th, 11th & 12th of June. We will have our newly released V-Set Interurban Passenger Trains, Car Carriers, 46 Class & 86 Class re-runs all available at the show.

We will also have an unannounced livery of one of our models available at the show and on Saturday morning we will be announcing 2 new models with samples on display over the weekend. One Locomotive and one Railcar both NSW prototype." - (via facebook)
  kingfisher Chief Train Controller

"Auscision will be at the Thornleigh Model Railway Exhibition over the June long weekend 10th, 11th & 12th of June. We will have our newly released V-Set Interurban Passenger Trains, Car Carriers, 46 Class & 86 Class re-runs all available at the show.

We will also have an unannounced livery of one of our models available at the show and on Saturday morning we will be announcing 2 new models with samples on display over the weekend. One Locomotive and one Railcar both NSW prototype." - (via facebook)
Poath Junction
V Set in current livery?
  catchpoint Assistant Commissioner

Location: At the end of a loop
"Auscision will be at the Thornleigh Model Railway Exhibition over the June long weekend 10th, 11th & 12th of June. We will have our newly released V-Set Interurban Passenger Trains, Car Carriers, 46 Class & 86 Class re-runs all available at the show.

We will also have an unannounced livery of one of our models available at the show and on Saturday morning we will be announcing 2 new models with samples on display over the weekend. One Locomotive and one Railcar both NSW prototype." - (via facebook)
Poath Junction

DEB set (gaaaazump)
or
BUDD cars (precedents set of fluted sides with southern aurora / IP / Ghan cars etc)
or
FP PayBus Series 2 (left of centre wildcard - they do say Railcar - singular)

Regards,
Catchpoint
  brissim Chief Train Controller

I think also the Budd cars or maybe the Tulloch railcars with their wider appeal (de-motored cars plus Victorian DRC). As much as I would like a one or two of DEB to replace my ageing LMR kits, I don't think at this stage Auscision would gazump Eureka.

As for the loco, maybe the 90 Class to go with the batwing hoppers but probably would have limited commercial appeal especially given the C43/44 and GT46s are already available. Notice on FB some people have suggested the 85 Class but just can't see the demand for that (ironically speaking as someone who has 2 IDR 85 Kits).

And yes - as for the unannounced livery of an existing product - I would agree a Sydney Trains V-Set.

Tony
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

I think also the Budd cars or maybe the Tulloch railcars with their wider appeal (de-motored cars plus Victorian DRC). As much as I would like a one or two of DEB to replace my ageing LMR kits, I don't think at this stage Auscision would gazump Eureka.

As for the loco, maybe the 90 Class to go with the batwing hoppers but probably would have limited commercial appeal especially given the C43/44 and GT46s are already available. Notice on FB some people have suggested the 85 Class but just can't see the demand for that (ironically speaking as someone who has 2 IDR 85 Kits).

And yes - as for the unannounced livery of an existing product - I would agree a Sydney Trains V-Set.

Tony
brissim
Or do you mean a NSW Trainlink V set. As I work on them I think a set for display would be cool even though I model USA prototype.
  Jack Le Lievre Chief Train Controller

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
All outstanding pre-orders for our car carriers have been posted out and the balance is now available from our website.
Get yours before they all sell out.
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