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      TrainLover222 Junior Train Controller

    Location: ...And then all stations to Central
    Hello,

    I was at Hawthorne station yesterday, which is on the L1 Dulwich Hill Line, when an Urbos 3 passed without stopping. The destination board on the front of the train said "Not in service." It was heading towards Central. I have never seen this before.

    Since all services stop at each station, would this be some sort of test vehicle, or would it simply be heading back to the stabling yard at Lilyfield? Or is there another possible explanation?

    It went through just as a Dulwich Hill-bound service left. The the "Not in service" LRV sported the number 2119, or 19 for short.

    Thanks
    Posted: 15 Jul 2017 10:56

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      theanimal Chief Commissioner

    possibly defective and returning for maintenance
    Posted: 15 Jul 2017 12:09
      TrainLover222 Junior Train Controller

    Location: ...And then all stations to Central
    possibly defective and returning for maintenance
    theanimal
    I see. When they are done their shift, is this what they would do? As far as I know, light rail services only usually terminate at Dulwich Hill and Central. I wonder why it would be defective? The Urbos 3's are pretty new, after all, and I think they are quite well looked after.
    Posted: 15 Jul 2017 12:18
      theanimal Chief Commissioner

    possibly defective and returning for maintenance
    I see. When they are done their shift, is this what they would do? As far as I know, light rail services only usually terminate at Dulwich Hill and Central. I wonder why it would be defective? The Urbos 3's are pretty new, after all, and I think they are quite well looked after.
    TrainLover222
    Possibly vandalism damage, someone sick on train, whilst they terminate at Dulwich Hill, I do not believe they stable there?
    Posted: 15 Jul 2017 14:28
      TrainLover222 Junior Train Controller

    Location: ...And then all stations to Central
    possibly defective and returning for maintenance
    I see. When they are done their shift, is this what they would do? As far as I know, light rail services only usually terminate at Dulwich Hill and Central. I wonder why it would be defective? The Urbos 3's are pretty new, after all, and I think they are quite well looked after.
    Possibly vandalism damage, someone sick on train, whilst they terminate at Dulwich Hill, I do not believe they stable there?
    theanimal
    There is a stable just off the line just before Lilyfield station. It is between Lilyfield and North Leichhardt. I caught the Urbos 3 on video, and as far as I can tell it wasn't vandalised, although I could only see one side of it.
    Posted: 15 Jul 2017 14:52
      theanimal Chief Commissioner

    possibly defective and returning for maintenance
    I see. When they are done their shift, is this what they would do? As far as I know, light rail services only usually terminate at Dulwich Hill and Central. I wonder why it would be defective? The Urbos 3's are pretty new, after all, and I think they are quite well looked after.
    Possibly vandalism damage, someone sick on train, whilst they terminate at Dulwich Hill, I do not believe they stable there?
    There is a stable just off the line just before Lilyfield station. It is between Lilyfield and North Leichhardt. I caught the Urbos 3 on video, and as far as I can tell it wasn't vandalised, although I could only see one side of it.
    TrainLover222
    I was thinking of either a large grogan or a large curry sourced spew -  not readily in view?
    Posted: 15 Jul 2017 14:53
      gordon_s1942 Chief Commissioner

    Location: Central Tablelands of NSW
    Crew on overtime, dirty carriages, defective equipment, the list is endless.
    Posted: 15 Jul 2017 15:20
      TrainLover222 Junior Train Controller

    Location: ...And then all stations to Central
    Crew on overtime, dirty carriages, defective equipment, the list is endless.
    gordon_s1942
    Out of curiosity, why would a crew running overtime require it to go out of service? Can't they bring in a new crew, or is every set of crew assigned to a specific service?
    Posted: 15 Jul 2017 15:46
      scott4570 Chief Train Controller

    During the Morning Peak service time they run 10 Urbos Units.

    After 0930 hours, they run 7 units for the Off-peak times.
    2 units are taken out of service at Central and 1 unit is taken out of service at Dulwich Hill.

    Depending on the time the unit passed Hawthorn, could it be that particular unit that finished its morning trips at Dulwich Hill ?
    Posted: 15 Jul 2017 23:42
      TrainLover222 Junior Train Controller

    Location: ...And then all stations to Central
    During the Morning Peak service time they run 10 Urbos Units.

    After 0930 hours, they run 7 units for the Off-peak times.
    2 units are taken out of service at Central and 1 unit is taken out of service at Dulwich Hill.

    Depending on the time the unit passed Hawthorn, could it be that particular unit that finished its morning trips at Dulwich Hill ?
    scott4570
    It was in the afternoon, approaching 1700 hours
    Posted: 16 Jul 2017 09:14
      TrainLover222 Junior Train Controller

    Location: ...And then all stations to Central
    possibly defective and returning for maintenance
    I see. When they are done their shift, is this what they would do? As far as I know, light rail services only usually terminate at Dulwich Hill and Central. I wonder why it would be defective? The Urbos 3's are pretty new, after all, and I think they are quite well looked after.
    Possibly vandalism damage, someone sick on train, whilst they terminate at Dulwich Hill, I do not believe they stable there?
    There is a stable just off the line just before Lilyfield station. It is between Lilyfield and North Leichhardt. I caught the Urbos 3 on video, and as far as I can tell it wasn't vandalised, although I could only see one side of it.
    I was thinking of either a large grogan or a large curry sourced spew -  not readily in view?
    theanimal
    Could be, I guess
    Posted: 16 Jul 2017 09:15
      bingley hall Minister for Railways

    Location: Last train to Skaville
    In other breaking news - the sky is falling in Razz
    Posted: 16 Jul 2017 17:58
      Boss Chief Commissioner

    Location: Caulfield Line
    In other breaking news - the sky is falling in Razz
    Let's hope it doesn't hit any transport minister on the head:lol:
    Posted: 16 Jul 2017 18:45

    Last edited by Boss on 16 Jul 2017 18:45; edited 2 times in total
      TrainLover222 Junior Train Controller

    Location: ...And then all stations to Central
    In other breaking news - the sky is falling in Razz
    Let's hope it doesn't hit any transport minister on the head:lol:
    Boss
    That could cause problems, you know
    Posted: 17 Jul 2017 09:55
      Boss Chief Commissioner

    Location: Caulfield Line
    Depending how thick the ministers heads are it could break the sky
    Posted: 17 Jul 2017 13:28
      TrainLover222 Junior Train Controller

    Location: ...And then all stations to Central
    Depending how thick the ministers heads are it could break the sky
    Boss
    Gladys isn't going to like this...

    Or Constance...
    Posted: 17 Jul 2017 16:00
      Fred Scuttle Junior Train Controller

    Location: Point Clare, NSW
    Minor whinge, Mods - shouldn't this thread be in Trams & Light Rail?

    Then again, as it seems to have run its course, maybe it should be just locked.
    Posted: 19 Jul 2017 21:51
      TrainLover222 Junior Train Controller

    Location: ...And then all stations to Central
    Minor whinge, Mods - shouldn't this thread be in Trams & Light Rail?

    Then again, as it seems to have run its course, maybe it should be just locked.
    Fred Scuttle
    Good point
    Posted: 21 Jul 2017 18:00
      gordon_s1942 Chief Commissioner

    Location: Central Tablelands of NSW
    Crew on overtime, dirty carriages, defective equipment, the list is endless.
    Out of curiosity, why would a crew running overtime require it to go out of service? Can't they bring in a new crew, or is every set of crew assigned to a specific service?
    TrainLover222
    It may be company policy that if the crew are on over time, they are not allowed to carry passengers 'IN CASE'.
    Getting a replacement crew isnt always just a simple matter of snapping ones fingers and wishing it so hence running the Unit back to the depot as an 'Out of Service' run may be the simplest solution.
    Better to annoy the odd customer than end up in court being sued for Zillions if 'something' happened.
    Posted: 21 Jul 2017 18:19
      TrainLover222 Junior Train Controller

    Location: ...And then all stations to Central
    Crew on overtime, dirty carriages, defective equipment, the list is endless.
    Out of curiosity, why would a crew running overtime require it to go out of service? Can't they bring in a new crew, or is every set of crew assigned to a specific service?
    It may be company policy that if the crew are on over time, they are not allowed to carry passengers 'IN CASE'.
    Getting a replacement crew isnt always just a simple matter of snapping ones fingers and wishing it so hence running the Unit back to the depot as an 'Out of Service' run may be the simplest solution.
    Better to annoy the odd customer than end up in court being sued for Zillions if 'something' happened.
    gordon_s1942
    That seems to make sense, especially considering how many services could be held up while waiting to get a new crew..
    Posted: 23 Jul 2017 09:56

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