Yamala Grain Terminal

 
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Construction is set to begin on the new Yamala Grain Terminal east of Emerald. Graincorp expects an additional 100,000-tonnes of grain to move to rail on the Central Line when work is completed.

http://m.world-grain.com/articles/news_home/World_Grain_News/2017/07/GrainCorp_to_build_new_silo_at.aspx?ID=%7B073C497D-FE6D-4B62-962F-68F5AFE90265%7D&cck=1

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  Big J Chief Train Controller

Location: In Paradise
Would they go via Fishermans Island or Mackay for export?
  qredge Deputy Commissioner

Location: Marsden Qld
The article states to be exported from Gladstone
  Expost Deputy Commissioner

Gladstone has about 6 silos at the port. Serviced by the Auckland Point balloon. Trouble is, the area Over the Hill is that run down, almost nothing goes there. Its a minefield of stop boards. PN does do some shunting in some roads. The balloons have also been truncated from the mainline electrically, so unless its reconnected, and Burngrove to Yamala is unmothballed, it will be diesel hauled.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Any chance of some google maps references for us down south?  Please?  Smile
  Expost Deputy Commissioner



Over the hill at Auckland Point, Gladstone. Main NCL curves up and down at the bottom. Gladstone harbour top. The grain silos are just to the right of top centre, to the right of the pile of wood chip. The white circles in the centre of the balloon loop are fuel storage tanks.








Yamala itself isn't a town, more like a locality. Follow the Capricorn Highway east of Emerald, about 20km, and you will see the existing cotton gin. You will see the existing passing loop, and short spur into the site.
  djukinX1016 Deputy Commissioner

Just to confirm from the posts above, we were in Gladstone late lat year and the tracks to the grain terminal looked unused so I take it grain is trucked in at the moment?
Regards
Phil
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
On a slight OT question, if the new inland terminal is 100,000 tonnes and will have rail, then what are Victoria farmers doing wrong when we cannot get rail to Dookie?
  Big J Chief Train Controller

Location: In Paradise
The article states to be exported from Gladstone
qredge
Oh that would help. Sorry.

I am surprised that Gladstone still exports grain. Must be by road as rail goes through Mackay or Fisherman's Island currently.
  Big J Chief Train Controller

Location: In Paradise
Gladstone has about 6 silos at the port. Serviced by the Auckland Point balloon. Trouble is, the area Over the Hill is that run down, almost nothing goes there. Its a minefield of stop boards. PN does do some shunting in some roads. The balloons have also been truncated from the mainline electrically, so unless its reconnected, and Burngrove to Yamala is unmothballed, it will be diesel hauled.
Expost
There hasn't been any electrically hauled freight apart from coal in years. In the boom 3900s were taken back into coal. Diesel is king in Qld apart from coal haul or passenger Electrical multiple units (ie tilt train, EMUs, IMUs etc).

Sparks use to haul wood chip, cattle, intermodal, grain, all gone. Only see spark locos with black nuggets and those really in Central Qld (Gladstone) up to Hay Point.
  emerald-a Station Master

The article states to be exported from Gladstone
Oh that would help. Sorry.

I am surprised that Gladstone still exports grain. Must be by road as rail goes through Mackay or Fisherman's Island currently.
Big J
Trains load at Nogoa and Capella with the majority of that going to Gladstone and the rest of it heading to Mackay .
  Big J Chief Train Controller

Location: In Paradise
The article states to be exported from Gladstone
Oh that would help. Sorry.

I am surprised that Gladstone still exports grain. Must be by road as rail goes through Mackay or Fisherman's Island currently.
Trains load at Nogoa and Capella with the majority of that going to Gladstone and the rest of it heading to Mackay .
emerald-a
Thankyou Emerald, you blew away my incorrect understanding.

Nice to know that is occurring.
  Expost Deputy Commissioner

The article states to be exported from Gladstone
Oh that would help. Sorry.

I am surprised that Gladstone still exports grain. Must be by road as rail goes through Mackay or Fisherman's Island currently.
Trains load at Nogoa and Capella with the majority of that going to Gladstone and the rest of it heading to Mackay .
emerald-a
I am 99.9% certain no grain goes to Gladstone port (Auckland Point) for export by train. As I previously said, almost nothing goes "Over the hill" these days, apart from PN freighters doing some shunting. I don't think the balloons have been used in anger for years. They would have to go via Parana and through South Gladstone to access the balloon loops. I am certainly happy to be proved wrong. But part of any upgrade for major export from Gladstone, supplied by rail, is going to need some other major rail works.
  emerald-a Station Master

The article states to be exported from Gladstone
Oh that would help. Sorry.

I am surprised that Gladstone still exports grain. Must be by road as rail goes through Mackay or Fisherman's Island currently.
Trains load at Nogoa and Capella with the majority of that going to Gladstone and the rest of it heading to Mackay .
I am 99.9% certain no grain goes to Gladstone port (Auckland Point) for export by train. As I previously said, almost nothing goes "Over the hill" these days, apart from PN freighters doing some shunting. I don't think the balloons have been used in anger for years. They would have to go via Parana and through South Gladstone to access the balloon loops. I am certainly happy to be proved wrong. But part of any upgrade for major export from Gladstone, supplied by rail, is going to need some other major rail works.
Expost
No idea exactly where they go but the trains leave Rocky full of grain go to Gladstone and come back empty so somewhere in Gladstone they are unloading it all
  Big J Chief Train Controller

Location: In Paradise
No idea exactly where they go but the trains leave Rocky full of grain go to Gladstone and come back empty so somewhere in Gladstone they are unloading it all
emerald-a
Ahh, that still means they could go to Fisherman's Island in Brissie.
  neillfarmer Junior Train Controller

If the Gladstone terminal has not been used this leaves only Fishermans Island and Mackay as grain ports. Grain flows several times a week to FI from the western line and grain flows to Mackay from the Clermont area, once or twice a week. My guess is the new terminal will operate through Mackay.
In some past seasons some Central Queensland grain has come to FI but that is an unusual practice.
  emerald-a Station Master

No idea exactly where they go but the trains leave Rocky full of grain go to Gladstone and come back empty so somewhere in Gladstone they are unloading it all
Ahh, that still means they could go to Fisherman's Island in Brissie.
Big J
They could but they don't, unless all of the paperwork is faked and they manage to travel to Brisbane at a speed faster than the tilt can do because they leave Rocky for Gladstone and get back to Rocky in 8 hours.
  emerald-a Station Master

If the Gladstone terminal has not been used this leaves only Fishermans Island and Mackay as grain ports. Grain flows several times a week to FI from the western line and grain flows to Mackay from the Clermont area, once or twice a week. My guess is the new terminal will operate through Mackay.
In some past seasons some Central Queensland grain has come to FI but that is an unusual practice.
neillfarmer
The grain out of Capella and Nogoa goes to Gladstone 95% of the time , it is only the occasional train that goes to Mackay. The only time to my knowledge that grain from there has gone to FI was a couple of years ago whilst everyone involved was arguing about who was going to pay for making the track usable at Gladstone.
  Big J Chief Train Controller

Location: In Paradise
No idea exactly where they go but the trains leave Rocky full of grain go to Gladstone and come back empty so somewhere in Gladstone they are unloading it all
Ahh, that still means they could go to Fisherman's Island in Brissie.
They could but they don't, unless all of the paperwork is faked and they manage to travel to Brisbane at a speed faster than the tilt can do because they leave Rocky for Gladstone and get back to Rocky in 8 hours.
emerald-a
Thankyou for clarifying, you didn't say the length of time for the return trip. I just assumed that it was days.
  Expost Deputy Commissioner

Well stuffed if I know. Being a driver at Callemondah, and knowing the road all the way out past Yamala, there is no where that handles grain between Rocky and Gladstone. And as I have said previously, nothing goes over the hill. I don't recall seeing any grainies heading south through Calle. Nothing happens at Bajool, apart from track machine maintenance. Only containerised freight goes to Mt Miller.
  neillfarmer Junior Train Controller

I spend around 1 month a year in Mackay. Grain trains are not uncommon into Mackay from the south, several times a week, but they may come off the coal line at Yucan. I have not observed any come up from Rocky, but then I don't get down that way very often.
Neill Farmer
  Expost Deputy Commissioner

Nope, the line up the range from Yukan into the Goonyella system is 100% coal. No grain. That would have to come up via the NCL. The grain would get in the way of the valuable coal trains. The slots would be worth a fortune.
  darsamalx Locomotive Fireman

Based on information from an ex colleague based at Rockhampton there were at least 2 grain train's (on which he was one of the drivers) into the Gladstone Terminal during July.

One ran on the 3rd or 4th with locos 2200/2363 and another 1-2 weeks later with 2191 and another unit.
  Expost Deputy Commissioner

Based on information from an ex colleague based at Rockhampton there were at least 2 grain train's (on which he was one of the drivers) into the Gladstone Terminal during July.

One ran on the 3rd or 4th with locos 2200/2363 and another 1-2 weeks later with 2191 and another unit.
darsamalx
I stand corrected.
  Big J Chief Train Controller

Location: In Paradise
Nope, the line up the range from Yukan into the Goonyella system is 100% coal. No grain. That would have to come up via the NCL. The grain would get in the way of the valuable coal trains. The slots would be worth a fortune.
Expost
Nope, they do go via Yukan up the range. However I agree the paths would be worth lots in (black) gold.

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