Steam Train shuttles

 
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Hi all, today the NSW R.T.M were running Steam Train shuttles between Hornsby and Gordon, I went up and took a few shots
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32678796@N05/36514081735/in/dateposted-public/
3016 hauls it's train through Pymble, up on the North Shore, diesel 4490 is at the rear
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32678796@N05/36376735301/in/dateposted-public/
Veteran Alco 4490 brings it's train into Gordon Station , trailing engine is 3016
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32678796@N05/35705486923/in/dateposted-public/
3016 stands at Gordon Platform, it will shortly depart, and head back to Hornsby
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32678796@N05/35705492793/in/dateposted-public/
This time Steam engine 3016 is at Hornsby Station, and it is about to depart with another shuttle bound for Gordon.
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  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Pity about the tender tank lid..................
Yes I know that some people are never satisfied. Rolling Eyes
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Pity about the tender tank lid..................
Yes I know that some people are never satisfied. Rolling Eyes
  Valvegear The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Norda Fittazroy
It's possibly open on purpose to prevent a partial vacuum forming as the water level lowers.
  9034 Train Controller

Pity about the tender tank lid..................
Yes I know that some people are never satisfied. Rolling Eyes
YM-Mundrabilla
It is open to distract you from the blue plastic container.   Looks like it worked.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Pity about the tender tank lid..................
Yes I know that some people are never satisfied. Rolling Eyes
It is open to distract you from the blue plastic container.   Looks like it worked.
9034
It did - I have long given up on the plastic containers and bags of coal on top of tenders, white discs on the front etc....
I am just an old fashioned dinosaur who liked doing things correctly.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
It's possibly open on purpose to prevent a partial vacuum forming as the water level lowers.
Valvegear
Good try Valvegear. SmileSmile
  Mufreight Train Controller

Location: North Ipswich
It's possibly open on purpose to prevent a partial vacuum forming as the water level lowers.
Good try Valvegear. SmileSmile
YM-Mundrabilla
fantasy at its finest.  The normal practice when operating under wires always has been to leave the lid open, if operating out of Central to a point beyond the electrification the lid would be closed after filling the tank before leaving loco so as to avoid anyone having to get up on the tender to open the lid under overhead.
  Mufreight Train Controller

Location: North Ipswich
It's possibly open on purpose to prevent a partial vacuum forming as the water level lowers.
Good try Valvegear. SmileSmile
fantasy at its finest.  The normal practice when operating under wires always has been to leave the lid open, if operating out of Central to a point beyond the electrification the lid would be closed after filling the tank before leaving loco so as to avoid anyone having to get up on the tender to open the lid under overhead.
  Mufreight Train Controller

Location: North Ipswich
It's possibly open on purpose to prevent a partial vacuum forming as the water level lowers.
Good try Valvegear. SmileSmile
fantasy at its finest.  The normal practice when operating under wires always has been to leave the lid open, if operating out of Central to a point beyond the electrification the lid would be closed after filling the tank before leaving loco so as to avoid anyone having to get up on the tender to open the lid under overhead.
  Valvegear The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Norda Fittazroy
fantasy at its finest.
Mufreight
Thanks. I thought it might get a bite or two particularly from the gunzel element. YM-Mundrabilla saw through it instantly.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
fantasy at its finest.
Thanks. I thought it might get a bite or two particularly from the gunzel element. YM-Mundrabilla saw through it instantly.
Valvegear
One of the few benefits of having been there and done that......................Smile
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
It's all double dutch to me- and I don't speak the language Laughing
  Valvegear The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Norda Fittazroy
One of the few benefits of having been there and done that................
"YM-Mundrabilla"
Yep. I've done the same thing under the wires. I had no ambition to be done medium rare whilst taking water.
  a6et Minister for Railways

One of the few benefits of having been there and done that................
Yep. I've done the same thing under the wires. I had no ambition to be done medium rare whilst taking water.
Valvegear
Don't forget that was the regulations that steam running under wired sections had to leave the tender cover lid closed.

I used to laugh when weekly notices continued to come out reporting a sighting of someone riding the tender under the wires on a 36cl, and this was when all the pigs were either set aside or in TS prior to their late 60's swansong.

I tend to think that you would be more akin to well done rather than medium though.
  M636C Minister for Railways

While on the subject of 30T class tenders, I note that 3016 lacks the air pipes that ran along the frame on the right hand side and vertically up the side near the end of the bunker to an air reservoir transversely across the tank just behind the bunker. I assume this feature related to an air reservoir which had been mounted behind the cab on the tank engine and needed to be added to the tender.. Strangely, the pipes only appear on bogie tenders, the 16 class and 32 class tenders having no visible air pipes although they do have the air reservoirs. Even the Baldwin tenders seemed to have the external pipes to the air reservoir on the right side.

So the ARHS (ACT) seem to have found some means of concealing the air pipes which looks better, but the air reservoir has been turned through 90 degrees and put on the right side (and has a toolbox on top of it) while the transverse location is occupied by a larger cylinder (reminiscent of a 44 gallon drum). I'd assume that this would be for water softening.

So the tender doesn't look much like the standard 3650 gallon tender on a 30T when in service.

But it is good that such clear photos of both sides of the tender were posted....

Peter
  Valvegear The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Don't forget that was the regulations that steam running under wired sections had to leave the tender cover lid closed.
a6et
Ah! Regulations!  
Quite some years ago there was a lovely kerfuffle in Queensland over the design of a proposed new building. Someone had made a brand new rule (without thinking, as usual) and this led to a situation where The Health Department said that toilet doors had to open inwards, and the Fire Brigade said they had to open outwards (or possibly vice versa; I don't remember which). One media outlet reported, tongue in cheek, that new regulations meant toilets would henceforth have no doors.
  a6et Minister for Railways

Don't forget that was the regulations that steam running under wired sections had to leave the tender cover lid closed.
Ah! Regulations!  
Quite some years ago there was a lovely kerfuffle in Queensland over the design of a proposed new building. Someone had made a brand new rule (without thinking, as usual) and this led to a situation where The Health Department said that toilet doors had to open inwards, and the Fire Brigade said they had to open outwards (or possibly vice versa; I don't remember which). One media outlet reported, tongue in cheek, that new regulations meant toilets would henceforth have no doors.
Valvegear
Thing was that there was a fireman cooked at Hornsby, IIRC on a 35cl pre the electrification being opened when they discovered the lid was closed, 35cl generally on stopping pax services needed to top up to get to Gosford, he got up to open the lid and last thing he did.
  a6et Minister for Railways

While on the subject of 30T class tenders, I note that 3016 lacks the air pipes that ran along the frame on the right hand side and vertically up the side near the end of the bunker to an air reservoir transversely across the tank just behind the bunker. I assume this feature related to an air reservoir which had been mounted behind the cab on the tank engine and needed to be added to the tender.. Strangely, the pipes only appear on bogie tenders, the 16 class and 32 class tenders having no visible air pipes although they do have the air reservoirs. Even the Baldwin tenders seemed to have the external pipes to the air reservoir on the right side.

So the ARHS (ACT) seem to have found some means of concealing the air pipes which looks better, but the air reservoir has been turned through 90 degrees and put on the right side (and has a toolbox on top of it) while the transverse location is occupied by a larger cylinder (reminiscent of a 44 gallon drum). I'd assume that this would be for water softening.

So the tender doesn't look much like the standard 3650 gallon tender on a 30T when in service.

But it is good that such clear photos of both sides of the tender were posted....

Peter
M636C
M I always thought the air pipes gave a nice look added a bit of interest.  The old 16 and 32 class tenders had an air tank under the frame, but have no idea how the connections were made, to the backhead cylinders though.

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