Melbourne's new trains to carry up to 2,000 passengers -

 
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
People who use the Cranbourne and Pakenham lines in Melbourne will find their new high-capacity trains will have even less seats and will be designed to crowd up to two thousand people (in a ten-carriage train) by the time the 'upgrades' are finished according to documents obtained by The Age. There's also potential for industrial action with drivers because many of the functions such as low-speed shunting can be completely automated; perhaps they're worried that any upgraded metro-style lines will result in no drivers at all as per the Sydney Metro line.

Really I can't imagine standing all the way to Dandenong... I guess that happens already though. Even if you were a fit individual it would be hard to do every work day.

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  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Just don't get old or infirm because if you no one will give a stuff, least of all the government or the multitude of passengers who occupy seats with feet and bags etc.
Just spent a week in Prague and could not help but notice how much more considerate to each other passengers on their crowded trams were.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line

Really I can't imagine standing all the way to Dandenong... I guess that happens already though. Even if you were a fit individual it would be hard to do every work day.
don_dunstan

Whenever my train gets chopped back to three cars and we aren't advised via the messaging service of this I end up standing from SCS to Ballan or vice-versa. This happened as recently as Tuesday last week with the 17:51 Wendouree.

In the bigger picture it's unlikely many pax are routinely standing all the way to Dandenong.

Mike.
  RTT_Rules The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dubai UAE
People who use the Cranbourne and Pakenham lines in Melbourne will find their new high-capacity trains will have even less seats and will be designed to crowd up to two thousand people (in a ten-carriage train) by the time the 'upgrades' are finished according to documents obtained by The Age. There's also potential for industrial action with drivers because many of the functions such as low-speed shunting can be completely automated; perhaps they're worried that any upgraded metro-style lines will result in no drivers at all as per the Sydney Metro line.

Really I can't imagine standing all the way to Dandenong... I guess that happens already though. Even if you were a fit individual it would be hard to do every work day.
don_dunstan
The current midday timetable says 47min Flinders Street to Dandenong.

Not the end of the world stuff and comparable to many routes in Sydney and Brisbane today and in Sydney back in late 80's it wasn't uncommon to stand for 30-40min on the Central Coast line, basically between Woy Woy and Hornsby or VV.

Personally I don't think its a big ask to ask commuters to stand for 30min, but going beyond that is starting to push the freindship. Is there any intermediate stops between the City and Dandenong on the upgraded corridor? If there are no stops, the transit time will be much shorter and hence likely to be closer to 30min than 47min.

Also note in true Vic form, the Drivers Union is planning industrial action before the trains arrive for fear the new "smarter" trains will have less reliance on the driver up front. So while the standard for passengers moves on, the drivers don't want to change. Reading the article, it would appear Metro is designing the trains for remote control yard movements and remove the driver from routine operation of the doors.
  MetroFemme Chief Train Controller

Will those new trains have wifi onboard?
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Will those new trains have wifi onboard?
MetroFemme
Will there be sufficient space to use it? Smile

Fewer seats all the time but does anyone up the airconditioning capacity (for example) to cater for the extra load.
  AJW Train Controller

Location: Melbourne
I travel from Hallam daily and normally stand both ways - about an hour (timetabled at 50 mins).  Pakenham line trains are full in peak times.

There are additional trains starting at Dandenong to assist with the crowding.

In the new 2000+ pax future, we second class commuters will then need to change trains (probably at Caulfield) to get to to South Yarra, Richmond or Parliament - the main destinations.  Will this be a change of platform as well?  Will there be capacity?  

Talk of sitting, Wifi, using the time usefully and express services (no additional tracks) are laughable.

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