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      YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
    Melbourne is again the 'Most Liveable City' !!!!

    What a joke - who paid who?

    Crime through the roof.
    Courts and legal system don't care.
    Lousy and unreliable public transport.
    Power prices.
    Overcrowding.
    Unemployment.
    Homeless on the streets.
    Graffiti everywhere.

    for a start..........................
    Posted: 16 Aug 2017 14:57

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      Bogong Chief Commissioner

    Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
    Yep, YM-M, all those things are true and we should be very concerned about them and work towards resolving those problems.

    BUT, every other city of note has at least slightly worse problems. That's why for all it's many flaws, Melbourne got the gong again.

    Perhaps, (and this might be a bit controversial), we should actually be proud of our city and rejoice in it's blessings? Question
    Posted: 16 Aug 2017 15:11
      Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Banned
    BUT, every other city of note has at least slightly worse problems.
    "Bogong"
    Oh yeah? Try Singapore.
    Melbourne may be reckoned the world's most liveable, but it won't be the most visitable until visitors can rock up to a railway station and buy a daily ticket.
    Posted: 16 Aug 2017 17:29
      Bogong Chief Commissioner

    Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
    BUT, every other city of note has at least slightly worse problems.
    Oh yeah? Try Singapore.
    Melbourne may be reckoned the world's most liveable, but it won't be the most visitable until visitors can rock up to a railway station and buy a daily ticket.
    Valvegear
    Cripes, try and buy a day ticket for the Tube and buses in London, the world's most popular city for tourists. Razz

    As I said, Melbourne has lots of faults, but it got the gong because it has slightly less faults than anywhere else. Smile
    Posted: 16 Aug 2017 17:44
      bingley hall Minister for Railways

    Location: Last train to Skaville
    Melbourne is again the 'Most Liveable City' !!!!

    What a joke - who paid who?

    Crime through the roof.
    Courts and legal system don't care.
    Lousy and unreliable public transport.
    Power prices.
    Overcrowding.
    Unemployment.
    Homeless on the streets.
    Graffiti everywhere.

    for a start..........................
    YM-Mundrabilla

    .....and a population that believes everything it's told in the tabloids Razz
    Posted: 16 Aug 2017 17:47
      justapassenger Minister for Railways

    Cripes, try and buy a day ticket for the Tube and buses in London, the world's most popular city for tourists. Razz
    Bogong
    Yeah, they do set the gold standard in that respect.

    They even help out Aussie tourists by selling them in Australian Dollars - https://www.visitbritainshop.com/australia/london-travelcard/
    Posted: 16 Aug 2017 17:54
      BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

    Location: Maldon Junction
    Melbourne is again the 'Most Liveable City' !!!!

    What a joke - who paid who?
    YM-Mundrabilla
    It's worth remembering that this report is done by the EIU - The Economist Intelligence Unit. It is actually called the EIU Liveability Index.

    It was basically designed for CEOs and other top execs to rate cities where they work so that other high powered movers and shakers know the best places to take their next overpaid placement.

    It rates cities based on a pretty limited set of criteria that apply to the CBD and inner suburbs where these people are likely to live.

    So basically a crock of smeg. Andrew Mackenzie is hardly likely to be sitting on the 17.05 Up Castlemaine service stuck in congestion at South Kensington then on the flyover then at Franklin St finally arriving on Platform 7A just late enough to miss his connection to South Morang now is he? Oh sorry, I digress.

    BG
    Posted: 16 Aug 2017 21:23
      Bogong Chief Commissioner

    Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
    Brenton, it's also used to determine how much to pay the top execs you mentioned.

    Melbourne is about the tenth most expensive city in the world, so execs can ask for more money to live and work there, because the cost of living is so high compared to places like the Midwest of America or central Europe... (or Castlemaine).

    In contrast, the worst third world hellholes that are full of corruption and violence such as Damascus, Kabul, Port Moresby, Karachi and most of Africa are rated at the bottom of the liveability index, so any executive or DFAT bureaucrat who is unfortunate enough to be posted there can ask for extra money in the form of a "hardship allowance".
    Posted: 16 Aug 2017 21:39

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      YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
    Who would live in Melbourne when they could live in Vienna?
    Posted: 16 Aug 2017 21:42
      allan Chief Commissioner

    Who would live in Melbourne when they could live in Vienna?
    YM-Mundrabilla
    Or Adelaide...
    Posted: 16 Aug 2017 21:50
      YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
    Who would live in Melbourne when they could live in Vienna?
    Or Adelaide...
    allan
    Have to agree Allan, despite having spent 30 years of my career avoiding being transferred there.
    A pleasant city nonetheless.
    Posted: 16 Aug 2017 22:00
      Bogong Chief Commissioner

    Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
    Well out of the roughly 5 million people in Melbourne, about 4 million could score an Austrian residency visa if they wanted to. It's more or less automatic if you're from an OECD country and have a skilled trade or profession. Even if you don't, anyone with a parent or grandparent born in the EU can live in Austria too.

    Auf Wiedersehen YM-M, werden traurig, wenn Sie uns verlassen
    Posted: 16 Aug 2017 22:12
      Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: In exile
    Who would live in Melbourne when they could live in Vienna?
    YM-Mundrabilla
    Who would live in a city when they can live in the country? I escaped 21½ years ago and I'm never going back...
    Posted: 16 Aug 2017 22:39
      YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
    Well out of the roughly 5 million people in Melbourne, about 4 million could score an Austrian residency visa if they wanted to. It's more or less automatic if you're from an OECD country and have a skilled trade or profession. Even if you don't, anyone with a parent or grandparent born in the EU can live in Austria too.

    Auf Wiedersehen YM-M, werden traurig, wenn Sie uns verlassen
    Bogong
    Danke schön Bogong  Smile
    Posted: 17 Aug 2017 10:03

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      Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Banned
    Herr Bogong to you, young man.
    Posted: 17 Aug 2017 13:16
      michaelgm Chief Commissioner

    Only visited once, F1 in 1997. REALLY enjoyed my stay. Kennet was premier at that stage, privitisation was on the agenda, public transport went on strike. Walked to and from Albert Park.
    Based on TV news things have changed. Agree with Graham4405, it might be time to leave the big smoke.
    As a side note went to a Chinese restaurant in Cowra NSW in the same year. Forks and spoons on the table. Politely asked, may I have some chop sticks please? Chuckles you are not from around here are you?
    Posted: 17 Aug 2017 13:42
      YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
    Who would live in Melbourne when they could live in Vienna?
    Who would live in a city when they can live in the country? I escaped 21½ years ago and I'm never going back...
    Graham4405
    Mundrabilla?
    Anyone ???
    Rolling Eyes
    Posted: 17 Aug 2017 13:58
      apw5910 Chief Commissioner

    Location: Location: Location.
    As a side note went to a Chinese restaurant in Cowra NSW in the same year. Forks and spoons on the table. Politely asked, may I have some chop sticks please? Chuckles you are not from around here are you?
    michaelgm
    Got similar treatment in Prague only a few years ago. Owners so happy we ate with bowls, chopsticks and shared that they gave us a nice bottle of liqueur on the way out. Everyone else was ordering their individual plate of whatever and using knives and forks.
    Posted: 17 Aug 2017 14:20
      Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: In exile
    Who would live in Melbourne when they could live in Vienna?
    Who would live in a city when they can live in the country? I escaped 21½ years ago and I'm never going back...
    Mundrabilla?
    Anyone ???
    Rolling Eyes
    YM-Mundrabilla
    Just a little too remote for me. It's an absolute certainty that the good wife wouldn't come with me! Smile
    Posted: 17 Aug 2017 22:54
      YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
    Who would live in Melbourne when they could live in Vienna?
    Who would live in a city when they can live in the country? I escaped 21½ years ago and I'm never going back...
    Mundrabilla?
    Anyone ???
    Rolling Eyes
    Just a little too remote for me. It's an absolute certainty that the good wife wouldn't come with me! Smile
    Graham4405
    Mine didn't come either, although when I rang her one morning to say that I was going to Mundrabilla after lunch and to stuff my blues, jocks, socks and boots in a bag at least she knew where it was and what I needed.
    (She was ex CR too.) Smile

    Some 'less informed/less experienced' (how's that for diplomacy?) HR people even asked the name of the hotel where we would be staying!

    There is a lot to be said for the bush...........
    Posted: 17 Aug 2017 23:28

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      BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

    Location: Maldon Junction
    That's settled then. C'mon Economists: Vote 1 Mundrabilla for the World's most liveable city 2018!

    BG
    Posted: 17 Aug 2017 23:46
      don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Adelaide proud
    As a side note went to a Chinese restaurant in Cowra NSW in the same year. Forks and spoons on the table. Politely asked, may I have some chop sticks please? Chuckles you are not from around here are you?
    michaelgm
    Many years ago in Melbourne an Asian co-worker taught me to use chopsticks and it's certainly easier for noodle based dishes. But yeah, I've had Asian people watching me with fascination just because I'm using them.
    Posted: 18 Aug 2017 12:22
      michaelgm Chief Commissioner

    Don, reasonably proficient with these tools. Rice however, pick up the bowl and use 'em like a shovel. When in Rome......
    Posted: 18 Aug 2017 13:23
      Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Banned
    I can play the organ reasonably well; I can hand-cut screw threads for stays in boiler plate; I can sew a button on; I could take catches in the slips, so I'm not manually inept. But; can I use chopsticks ? No. Try as I might, I cannot master the bloody things. I watch and marvel and fail.Sad
    Posted: 18 Aug 2017 14:11
      Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: In exile
    There is a lot to be said for the bush...........
    YM-Mundrabilla
    Sure is, but a good sized country town with reasonable facilities helps. My missus needs shops... Wink
    Posted: 18 Aug 2017 22:24

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