Dulwich Hill line - suburban or not?

 
  TrainLover222 Junior Train Controller

Location: ...And then all stations to Central
Hello,

The Inner West Light Rail line is, to me, an interesting one. It runs throughout the suburbs, but being a light rail line, it has both similarities and differences with the heavy rail network.

Similarities:
  • Frequency is quite alike to various other Sydney lines (i.e. 8-10 min for a train in peak hour, a service every 10-15 min most other times)
  • Runs on a conventional right-of-way (unlike tramways and many light railways, most of the line is conventional, dedicated track with low-platform stations and reasonably-sized concourses)
  • Fleet has been largely (i.e. COMPLETELY in the case of Dulwich Hill line) taken over by a newer model of rolling stock

Differences:
  • Single-deck (double-deck light rail wouldn't work, I think. Would carry less given the distances between stations)
  • Has short on-road section, including loop at Central previously used by Sydney's then-extensive tramways
  • Doesn't use "Sydney Trains" branding

Given this, would the Dulwich Hill light rail line count as a suburban service?

Thanks


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  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
Does it really matter?

Transport NSW separates it like they do for Ferries and Buses - Train / Bus / Ferry / Light Rail.
  TrainLover222 Junior Train Controller

Location: ...And then all stations to Central
Does it really matter?

Transport NSW separates it like they do for Ferries and Buses - Train / Bus / Ferry / Light Rail.
mikesyd
It isn't terribly important, but to me it sent to be segregated from other rail service, as you mentioned
  Spletsie Chief Commissioner

It is a suburban service by definition because it runs within the Sydney suburban area.

Most of the line runs along a dedicated right of way along the corridor of a former goods railway line.

The Dulwich Hill line is receiving growing patronage and service frequencies will be increased:
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/extra-tram-services-to-help-ease-crowding-on-sydneys-inner-west-light-rail-20170821-gy0rk2.html
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Its LR in every sense because of the rollingstock and the ability to use the short street run and very tight curve near the STAR Casino.

Is it surburban line? If so, most of the trams in Melbourne are Suburban as they run into the suburbs.

Most new LR projects use corridors off street running where ever possible, only crossing streets with support of traffic lights. For example in Leipzig Germany. All new extensions are off street running and then theirs the conversion from HR to LR to both Melbourne and Adelaide.

Using the existing ROW in Sydney simply reduced the cost of the project to make it viable. Had this not been available there would be no LR and likely the Inner NW Metro would have succeeded.

In Australia they are using median strips, closed roads and anything else to keep them away from cars they can find. True mixed street running is a thing of the past for greenfield projects.
  tazzer96 Deputy Commissioner

No.   If it was they would have had double deck suburban trains running on it instead of closing the line and converting it to LR.
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

I really don't understand the point of this thread. It is a light rail line with 750v light rail vehicles of about 33 metres in length that runs mostly via the old goods line reservation. Whatever heavy rail was there is no longer there and neither Sydney DD's or freight trains could run on it in it's current configuration. It is now a light rail line separate from Sydney trains. It is suburban because it runs through suburban parts of Sydney.
  TrainLover222 Junior Train Controller

Location: ...And then all stations to Central
It is a suburban service by definition because it runs within the Sydney suburban area.

Most of the line runs along a dedicated right of way along the corridor of a former goods railway line.

The Dulwich Hill line is receiving growing patronage and service frequencies will be increased:
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/extra-tram-services-to-help-ease-crowding-on-sydneys-inner-west-light-rail-20170821-gy0rk2.html
Spletsie
Increased!? That surprises me!

I live along the line, and it appears that while peak hour services remain at the same interval, services at some times in the day (such as on occasion throughout the afternoon) are now running at 15-20 minutes, instead of the usual 10-15 minutes. Times remain the same throughout the rest of the day, including the 8-10 min during peak.

These time changes are reflected in the updated timetable, which I have seen at Hawthorne station and imagine is at other stations. (In case you don't live near the line, they also added ticket machines and extra Opal readers)

Thanks
  Colonel Leon Junior Train Controller

Location:
It is a suburban light rail that is privately ran. Done
Good to hear that there are more Opal readers because people always turn up for their tram at the last second and people waiting to tap on 1 reader increases dwell time.
  TrainLover222 Junior Train Controller

Location: ...And then all stations to Central
It is a suburban light rail that is privately ran. Done
Good to hear that there are more Opal readers because people always turn up for their tram at the last second and people waiting to tap on 1 reader increases dwell time.
Colonel Leon
True. The ticket machines also appear new (as well as the schedule) but I looked at some previous images and maybe I just didn't notice them

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