Grain Harvest 2016/2017

 
  BrentonGolding Deputy Commissioner

Location: Castlemaine when I'm workin', Maldon when I'm Trainin'
The reality of the big picture is that a closer port is NOT always the cheaper alternative
Pressman
Which is exactly what I was trying to point out in light of the debate on RP about Portland Vs Geelong

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  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Plus no more trains for a while between Horsham and Outer Harbour with Hay?
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Re the ports/storages, think of them as being open access terminals, like the track, is open access.  Subject to a successful negotiation, anyone can load at any storage, run on the rails, and unload any port.  The ports (and rails for that matter) are for the most part legislated to be as such.  

The storages i don't think are legislated open access but are so given the historic operation of grains storages.  Growers deliver to an sell to a range of buyers at each site, creating many inventories of grain at many sites for many buyers.  After delivery, the grains buyers then begin swapping their various lots of grain so that they can get a big enough pile in one spot to do what they want with it (e.g. export, sell to a domestic user etc).  So you might easily find that Emerald could have assembled a pile of grain at Cargill's Dimboola site through swapping with other traders elsewhere, which is collected by SSR and taken to Graincorp Portland to be exported to wherever it is going.

I would suspect that the GWA loadings from Dimboola to Outer Harbour are to fill needs of Viterra/Glencore (with whom GWA have a long standing relationship), who may have been a buyer in the region and swapped their inventories such that the grain they bought was at Dimboola.  That GWA loading might have been part of a larger shipment from the Viterra catchment area (incl SA) and as Pressman notes, moving the ship to a second loading point in this instance may have been less cost effective than railing it across from Western Vic.

The joys of transport and logistics huh?!
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: On a freight train to crazy town
Plus no more trains for a while between Horsham and Outer Harbour with Hay?
x31
I thought it was hay ex SA to Horsham for processing then on to Melbourne.

Anyway whatever it is all tied in with availability of product, shipping lines etc.

e,g, if you can get the same or better price for your hay in SA, you don't waste your time putting it on a train to Victoria.
  Y115 Junior Train Controller

Location: Portland
C504 and C509 with SSR grain train in Portland again today.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: On a freight train to crazy town
C504 and C509 with SSR grain train in Portland again today.
Y115

Last run to Portland. Back to Melbourne on Monday
  RustyRick Deputy Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
Fridays Portland Observer via Joy Smith noted that these were the first C classes to visit since El Zorro arrived with C501 in 2013. SSR had freighted barley from Dimboola.

Rick
  Y115 Junior Train Controller

Location: Portland
Should be departed with C501 in early 2013, from memory C501 arrived late 2008.
  Y115 Junior Train Controller

Location: Portland
G523, 8177 and X48 arrived about 0830 with the PN grain.  SSR's train is still here.
  thekingoffoxes Chief Train Controller

G523, 8177 and X48 arrived about 0830 with the PN grain.  SSR's train is still here.
Y115
It would be great to see some photos if you have them Smile
  Y115 Junior Train Controller

Location: Portland
Only put them on Facebook in some rail groups for now.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
G522 on 9143 heading north just south of Inglewood with an empty grain.

G523-8177 currently loading at Warracknabel

BL26 on 9742 heading south toward Warracknabel from Hopetoun with loading for Hamilton.
  Y115 Junior Train Controller

Location: Portland
8182 and X50 loading at Rainbow.

For those interested we have in Portland a new ship (straight from the yard) loading over 50,000 tonnes of barley for China.  Not a top up from anywhere else, just one ship load on one voyage.
  BigShunter Chief Train Controller

Location: St Clair. S.A.
How's this years gran crop looking?
david m

Righto, Friday traveled from home, Adelaide to Horsham, Saturday south to Penshurst, left at Cavendish towards Dunkeld - Penshurst, back to Horsham via Hamilton.

From the boarder, Canola crops looking absolutely magnificent, not only because they are in full flower stage, hence miles of brilliant yellow paddock's, but as high as the fence and thick very healthy crops and you could put the spirit level across to entire paddock.
Wheat and Barley also looking very healthy, though now where near as high and just starting to come out in ear, in places. Although the last month has been cold and very little sunshine, would account from the lack of height but all the same nice and thick crops.
The top soil is starting to dry out a bit but plenty of sub soil moisture and the general view, of a few natives from Nhill, even if it didn't rain for another couple of weeks, this would have very little effect.
The closer you got to Horsham the coanola crops weren't as high but still very handy looking crops, wheat and barley the same.

I saw SSR loading at Dimboola and would be interested to know, how many grain wagons it was dragging, seemed to be quite a long consist, anyone got a clue, Y115 ?

I would also say there is still, a Very Large quantity of grain at Dimboola, I would say at least 100,000 tonnes, will make a few discrete inquiries on that one.  

BigShunter.
  Y115 Junior Train Controller

Location: Portland
SSR had 45 or 46 grain wagons in Portland, the whole train looked longer because I think their wagons are longer than PN's.
Most of the PN trains have 40 to 46 wagons.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
G522 on 9143 heading north just south of Inglewood with an empty grain.

G523-8177 currently loading at Warracknabel

BL26 on 9742 heading south toward Warracknabel from Hopetoun with loading for Hamilton.
bevans

9143 has stopped at Boort.  is grain collected at this location?
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: On a freight train to crazy town
SSR had 45 or 46 grain wagons in Portland, the whole train looked longer because I think their wagons are longer than PN's.
Most of the PN trains have 40 to 46 wagons.
Y115
SSR rake at Portland = 46
  Y115 Junior Train Controller

Location: Portland
SSR's grain train departed Portland about ten minutes ago.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Appreciate the updates y115
  cbinyon Locomotive Fireman

QUBE yesterday ran to Deni (Graincorp) for the first time to collect grain. Any reasons why? PN unable to meet shipment deadline/ quota?
  BigShunter Chief Train Controller

Location: St Clair. S.A.
QUBE yesterday ran to Deni (Graincorp) for the first time to collect grain. Any reasons why? PN unable to meet shipment deadline/ quota?

cbinyon

I can't answer your question, but here is some footage by Greensleeves94 from the Bendigo area, from YouTube.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5B2EINX57g

BigShunter.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner
  Carnot Chief Commissioner
  BrentonGolding Deputy Commissioner

Location: Castlemaine when I'm workin', Maldon when I'm Trainin'
Was rather surprised to see what looked like an Up grainie stopped at Castlemaine at around 10.30 this morning. Possibly waiting to cross the 09.14 down service that arrives into The Maine at 10.46 but this service normally crosses an up pass at The Maine so not sure.

Must have been a tight schedule, or was it a fail last night / this morning?

BG
  skitz Chief Commissioner

No mention of rail access which is a worry:
http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/story/4920878/grain-storage-facility-for-bridgewater/?cs=3372
Carnot
They could do their own business case to take over the line to Bendigo.  One can only speculate that red tape would stop any sensible solution.

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