Closed Melbourne Stations

 
  Mr Gus Meister Junior Train Controller

I've plotted out all of the closed stations on the Melbourne network. Which ones should be reopened? What ones should stay closed? Map: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_CeO3jx5TJazT1gOMz6zXpPg7cQ&usp=sharing

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  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
I've plotted out all of the closed stations on the Melbourne network. Which ones should be reopened? What ones should stay closed? Map: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_CeO3jx5TJazT1gOMz6zXpPg7cQ&usp=sharing
Mr Gus Meister
Paisley could act as a replacement for the Altona Loop line.
Langwarrin could be reopened to serve the growing area south of Frankston.
General Motors could be reopened only if the area surrounding it is redeveloped.

All others should stay closed.
  Mr Gus Meister Junior Train Controller

I've plotted out all of the closed stations on the Melbourne network. Which ones should be reopened? What ones should stay closed? Map: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_CeO3jx5TJazT1gOMz6zXpPg7cQ&usp=sharing
Paisley could act as a replacement for the Altona Loop line.
Langwarrin could be reopened to serve the growing area south of Frankston.
General Motors could be reopened only if the area surrounding it is redeveloped.

All others should stay closed.
railblogger
I agree with you too. I also think that Cave Hill (or close to it - Hull Road) should be reopened.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
I've plotted out all of the closed stations on the Melbourne network. Which ones should be reopened? What ones should stay closed? Map: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_CeO3jx5TJazT1gOMz6zXpPg7cQ&usp=sharing
Paisley could act as a replacement for the Altona Loop line.
Langwarrin could be reopened to serve the growing area south of Frankston.
General Motors could be reopened only if the area surrounding it is redeveloped.

All others should stay closed.
I agree with you too. I also think that Cave Hill (or close to it - Hull Road) should be reopened.
Mr Gus Meister
Why?
  Crossover Train Controller

Location: St. Albans Victoria
I've plotted out all of the closed stations on the Melbourne network. Which ones should be reopened? What ones should stay closed? Map: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_CeO3jx5TJazT1gOMz6zXpPg7cQ&usp=sharing
Paisley could act as a replacement for the Altona Loop line.
Langwarrin could be reopened to serve the growing area south of Frankston.
General Motors could be reopened only if the area surrounding it is redeveloped.

All others should stay closed.
I agree with you too. I also think that Cave Hill (or close to it - Hull Road) should be reopened.
Why?
railblogger
I do not think that there is any realistic prospect that the Altona loop would  be closed
  Mr Gus Meister Junior Train Controller

I've plotted out all of the closed stations on the Melbourne network. Which ones should be reopened? What ones should stay closed? Map: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_CeO3jx5TJazT1gOMz6zXpPg7cQ&usp=sharing
Paisley could act as a replacement for the Altona Loop line.
Langwarrin could be reopened to serve the growing area south of Frankston.
General Motors could be reopened only if the area surrounding it is redeveloped.

All others should stay closed.
I agree with you too. I also think that Cave Hill (or close to it - Hull Road) should be reopened.
Why?
railblogger
I am not familiar with the area and I am open to any disagreement, but from the map, there is a massive gap between Lilydale and Moorolbark. I also heard that they were going to open up Cave Hill station on the news (I think).
  Mr Gus Meister Junior Train Controller

I found this forum on Railpage: https://www.railpage.com.au/f-p1866459.htm
  ZH836301 Chief Commissioner

Location: BleakCity
A better question is which stations on the network should be closed.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
None of them.

Langwarrin may get a new station one day, but the likelyhood of it happening in the near future, or in anything resembling the same location are slim.

I also heard that they were going to open up Cave Hill station on the news (I think).
Mr Gus Meister
I don't know where you heard it, but whoever reported that doesn't know what they are talking about.

Cave Hill is not a closed station. There was never even a station there. How can you close when you where never built in the first place?

A better question is which stations on the network should be closed.
ZH836301
I get your thinking, there are a few stations that are redundant, the reality is though no politician would dare do it.

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The reality is there is not one station in Melbourne that has closed without justification, General Motors for instance, that existed to serve a factory, that factory shut down, when it did the station was closed. It is that simple. Same goes for most of the closed stations, they served their purpose and are now consigned to the history of Melbourne.

Remember, the more stations you have, the more stops you make, the longer that makes the trip for everybody else.
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
you have missed werribee racecourse, which was to be under the wires, and as such technically a Melbourne station. Doesn't come under closed lines IMO either, which is a whole other list. Closed in '95 when the SG went through according to wikipedia.
  Mr Gus Meister Junior Train Controller

you have missed werribee racecourse, which was to be under the wires, and as such technically a Melbourne station. Doesn't come under closed lines IMO either, which is a whole other list. Closed in '95 when the SG went through according to wikipedia.
Galron
I thought Werribee Racecourse was a station, but my souce, Vicsig, didn't show it. I will add it right now.
  True Believers Chief Commissioner

you have missed werribee racecourse, which was to be under the wires, and as such technically a Melbourne station. Doesn't come under closed lines IMO either, which is a whole other list. Closed in '95 when the SG went through according to wikipedia.
I thought Werribee Racecourse was a station, but my souce, Vicsig, didn't show it. I will add it right now.
Mr Gus Meister
Vicsig is interesting source, some parts of the website isn't updated, but other parts are quite accurate, and informative. I use it to see how many of each rolling stock, or how much single track on the network.

As for closed stations, most of them unlikely to reopen at all, but they do have quite some history behind them.
  Mr Gus Meister Junior Train Controller

you have missed werribee racecourse, which was to be under the wires, and as such technically a Melbourne station. Doesn't come under closed lines IMO either, which is a whole other list. Closed in '95 when the SG went through according to wikipedia.
I thought Werribee Racecourse was a station, but my souce, Vicsig, didn't show it. I will add it right now.
Vicsig is interesting source, some parts of the website isn't updated, but other parts are quite accurate, and informative. I use it to see how many of each rolling stock, or how much single track on the network.

As for closed stations, most of them unlikely to reopen at all, but they do have quite some history behind them.
James974
Yes, they do have a lot of history.
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
I had a quick glance at Gus' map and noted that not all closed stations on operating lines are shown. Stations like Pic Nic, White City and others are missing.

However, Williamstown Pier, a former station on a closed line is shown. Well... if he's going to include stations on closed lines, Gus has a LOT more work to do:
  • Inner Circle
  • Outer Circle
  • Rosstown
  • Port Melbourne
  • St Kilda
  • Kew
  • Single station spur lines like Mont Park, Springvale Cemetery, Williamstown Racecourse, Fitzroy, etc.
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
I thought Werribee Racecourse was a station, but my souce, Vicsig, didn't show it. I will add it right now.
Mr Gus Meister
They even put up stanchions there so they must have been serious about running sparks there in the early 1980s.

by Gauntlet, on Flickr

Of the 70 stations listed here -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Disused_railway_stations_in_Melbourne
perhaps Holden is the most likely one to reopen.
  Mr Gus Meister Junior Train Controller

I had a quick glance at Gus' map and noted that not all closed stations on operating lines are shown. Stations like Pic Nic, White City and others are missing.

However, Williamstown Pier, a former station on a closed line is shown. Well... if he's going to include stations on closed lines, Gus has a LOT more work to do:
  • Inner Circle
  • Outer Circle
  • Rosstown
  • Port Melbourne
  • St Kilda
  • Kew
  • Single station spur lines like Mont Park, Springvale Cemetery, Williamstown Racecourse, Fitzroy, etc.
Bogong
I used VICSIG and it only showed some of the stations on my map. I guess I have to shop around a bit more to find all the stations! Laughing
  Mr Gus Meister Junior Train Controller

I thought Werribee Racecourse was a station, but my souce, Vicsig, didn't show it. I will add it right now.
They even put up stanchions there so they must have been serious about running sparks there in the early 1980s.

by Gauntlet, on Flickr

Of the 70 stations listed here -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorydisused_railway_stations_in_Melbourne
perhaps Holden is the most likely one to reopen.
Gauntlet
Thanks for the link! I will use it and plot them on the map.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
Along with Cave Hill, Maribyrnong Junction is on your map, But it was never a station as far as I know, maybe somebody can correct me if I am wrong.

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Just a few that come to mind that are not on that map, along with a valid reason not to re-open them:
Williamstown Racecourse, The Racecourse and all remnants of it have not existed in a long time, so there is no point in reviving it
White City, Very close to Tottenham, existed to serve factory workers, fewer factories in that area now, and again, too close to Tottenham
Holden, Could re-open in a few decades when urban sprawl reaches out there, not there yet.
Somerton, very close to where the new Roxburgh Park station is, don't need both
Campbellfield, area not suitable for a railway station.
Carlton North, inner circle line gone, won't return.
Fitzroy North, inner circle line gone, won't return
Fitzroy, inner circle line, and Fitzroy branch line gone, neither will return
Mont Park, the asylum it served closed long ago, no need for it anymore
Botanic Gardens, not a suitable location for a station, unless it was built to serve the MCG and Tennis Centre, Richmond is too close to warrant it
Pic Nic, too close to Burnley, rt 70 tram does a good enough job
Kew, too close to the city, better served by trams than a short stubb branch line
Barker, see above
Cremorne, too close to South Yarra and Richmond, not required
Springvale Cemetery, Funeral trains aren't really a thing anymore, not going to happen.

That is just a few, I know I have missed many, and I didn't even get to short life lines like the Outer Circle line, or the white elephant that was the Rosstown Railway. I will leave that for it is fairly obvious that lines that didn't work 100 years ago are not going to work now.
  Mr Gus Meister Junior Train Controller

Along with Cave Hill, Maribyrnong Junction is on your map, But it was never a station as far as I know, maybe somebody can correct me if I am wrong.

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Just a few that come to mind that are not on that map, along with a valid reason not to re-open them:
Williamstown Racecourse, The Racecourse and all remnants of it have not existed in a long time, so there is no point in reviving it
White City, Very close to Tottenham, existed to serve factory workers, fewer factories in that area now, and again, too close to Tottenham
Holden, Could re-open in a few decades when urban sprawl reaches out there, not there yet.
Somerton, very close to where the new Roxburgh Park station is, don't need both
Campbellfield, area not suitable for a railway station.
Carlton North, inner circle line gone, won't return.
Fitzroy North, inner circle line gone, won't return
Fitzroy, inner circle line, and Fitzroy branch line gone, neither will return
Mont Park, the asylum it served closed long ago, no need for it anymore
Botanic Gardens, not a suitable location for a station, unless it was built to serve the MCG and Tennis Centre, Richmond is too close to warrant it
Pic Nic, too close to Burnley, rt 70 tram does a good enough job
Kew, too close to the city, better served by trams than a short stubb branch line
Barker, see above
Cremorne, too close to South Yarra and Richmond, not required
Springvale Cemetery, Funeral trains aren't really a thing anymore, not going to happen.

That is just a few, I know I have missed many, and I didn't even get to short life lines like the Outer Circle line, or the white elephant that was the Rosstown Railway. I will leave that for it is fairly obvious that lines that didn't work 100 years ago are not going to work now.
Gman_86
Thanks for this station list! I will get around to adding ALL the closed stations onto my map very soon. Marybyrnong River Junction and Cave Hill are listed on the VIGSIG website, but I am not sure how reliable and credible of a source it is.
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
Thanks for compiling that list Gman, I was far too lazy to do it properly. Quite understandably, you didn't include Princes Bridge in your list. I sort of thought Rox Park was Campbellfield station resurrected and renamed after the adjoining subdivision, but I've learnt that it is in a different location.

However I'd question your statement that the Inner Circle "won't return", as there is a slight chance that it could. There is a valid argument that diverting the South Morang / Mernda line onto the inner circle route (rebuilt as a cheap cut and cover underground line) to Royal Park would take a lot of the pressure off the Clifton Hill - Jolimont bottleneck IF (a big if) the Doncaster and/or Epping North lines are ever built.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
Along with Cave Hill, Maribyrnong Junction is on your map, But it was never a station as far as I know, maybe somebody can correct me if I am wrong.

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Just a few that come to mind that are not on that map, along with a valid reason not to re-open them:
Williamstown Racecourse, The Racecourse and all remnants of it have not existed in a long time, so there is no point in reviving it
White City, Very close to Tottenham, existed to serve factory workers, fewer factories in that area now, and again, too close to Tottenham
Holden, Could re-open in a few decades when urban sprawl reaches out there, not there yet.
Somerton, very close to where the new Roxburgh Park station is, don't need both
Campbellfield, area not suitable for a railway station.
Carlton North, inner circle line gone, won't return.
Fitzroy North, inner circle line gone, won't return
Fitzroy, inner circle line, and Fitzroy branch line gone, neither will return
Mont Park, the asylum it served closed long ago, no need for it anymore
Botanic Gardens, not a suitable location for a station, unless it was built to serve the MCG and Tennis Centre, Richmond is too close to warrant it
Pic Nic, too close to Burnley, rt 70 tram does a good enough job
Kew, too close to the city, better served by trams than a short stubb branch line
Barker, see above
Cremorne, too close to South Yarra and Richmond, not required
Springvale Cemetery, Funeral trains aren't really a thing anymore, not going to happen.

That is just a few, I know I have missed many, and I didn't even get to short life lines like the Outer Circle line, or the white elephant that was the Rosstown Railway. I will leave that for it is fairly obvious that lines that didn't work 100 years ago are not going to work now.
Gman_86
Not to mention the lines out to Healesville and Warburton.
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
I found this forum on Railpage: https://www.railpage.com.au/f-p1866459.htm
Mr Gus Meister
As it says on that link, there never was a Cave Hill station near Hull Road.  Possibly the confusion comes from the Cave Hill quarry siding, which used to exist a short distance Up from Lilydale station.  The siding existed for carriage of limestone from the quarry, but was never a passenger station.  You can still see the gate in the fence, where the rails used to go, but that's all that remains of it now.
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
Not to mention the lines out to Healesville and Warburton.
railblogger
There has been mention of a maintenance facility at Coldstream, which if it eventuated could lead to a new Coldstream station.
  Mr Gus Meister Junior Train Controller

I found this forum on Railpage: https://www.railpage.com.au/f-p1866459.htm
As it says on that link, there never was a Cave Hill station near Hull Road.  Possibly the confusion comes from the Cave Hill quarry siding, which used to exist a short distance Up from Lilydale station.  The siding existed for carriage of limestone from the quarry, but was never a passenger station.  You can still see the gate in the fence, where the rails used to go, but that's all that remains of it now.
Lad_Porter
Oh, I meant that it would be better to have it at Hull Road, not that it is a Hull Road.
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

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