Eureka Blog Update

 
  Roachie Chief Commissioner

Location: Kadina SA (formerly NSW)
For those who think (hope?) that the bodies may have just been plonked on top of the chassis for those three photos, I don't believe that would be the case.

I assume these locos will have been constructed in a similar manner to other contemporary diesel locos....IE: with the coupler being a part that needs to be removed in order to take the body off; certainly on the front end as it pokes through the pilot.

So, my point is this....the fact the 3 locos are shown with their front coupler in situ, would make me pretty certain that the body is in its final resting place. If not, it would not have been possible to slide the coupler in through the front pilot to be mounted properly.

The same can't be said about the rear of this loco because the coupler probably doesn't need to be removed due to lack of a pilot at that end.....same as the 43 and 42 class locos.

Roachie

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  Dazz Deputy Commissioner

The 40 class is an RSC-3

The RSD-4 and RSD-5, while the same overall length, had bogies that were entirely different, with three motors each and with pivot points that were much closer to the ends. These should not be used for comparison.

Peter
M636C
Thanks for clearing that one up, to be honest those RS models come with so many bogie variations I've never really committed to memory which ones are which.

Back in the 1980s Punchbowl Hobbies released a "near enough" 40-class which I think was based on the Atlas RSD-4/5 version which featured the bogies where the centre axle was closer to the outer end of the bogie, like on the 45-class and 48-class, in fact I know of somebody who used that mechanism to re-power the Trax (later Powerline) 48-class, the Atlas mechanism being one of the best on the market at the time.
  NSW3802 Locomotive Fireman

If you have a look at a new post of Models for Sale there is a link to a Flicka pake that has a photo of Mansfield Brass 40 class diesels. The gap from the buffer beam to the bogies is shown up well.

Les.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Here is a link to a photo of an Algerian RSC2 which is almost a 40 class even having a tapered cab side and buffers etc. Not quite a 40 class but very close to it!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALCO_RSC-2#/media/File:CFA_040_DD_1-JPVL.jpg
  Dazz Deputy Commissioner

If you have a look at a new post of Models for Sale there is a link to a Flicka pake that has a photo of Mansfield Brass 40 class diesels. The gap from the buffer beam to the bogies is shown up well.

Les.
NSW3802
not a great photo, but this is a Mansfield brass 40-class

  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
Blog update 20/8 http://eurekamodels.blogspot.com.au/
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Whilst on the subject of pre-production models or actual production models it is stated on the Eureka blog site that the three models in the photographs are actual production models so if the body does sit to high as it seems then it looks like we are stuck with it!

"The Eureka staff took the opportunity to bring back three models from the production line (see accompanying photos)".

These photo's or at least one anyway are the ones put up earlier in this thread!
  M636C Minister for Railways

I am confused, its taken longer for Eureka to build these models that it took Montreal Loco Works to build the original.
Iain

I know this was posted some time ago but I just came across an advertisement in "Railway Transportation" for 1953.

The twenty 40 class locomotives had completed delivery 69 weeks after the order was placed.
This was said to be fast compared to other builders (presumably Clyde)

Of course, MLW only had to supply one version, green, with an air cooled turbocharger and longitudinal stack and radiator louvres, but they all had real ventilation grilles over the engine.

I think I'm going to have to pull out my unpainted Mansfield brass model and get it professionally painted.

Peter
  M636C Minister for Railways

Here is a link to a photo of an Algerian RSC2 which is almost a 40 class even having a tapered cab side and buffers etc. Not quite a 40 class but very close to it!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALCO_RSC-2#/media/File:CFA_040_DD_1-JPVL.jpg
David Peters
The RSC-2 lacks the battery boxes next to the cab on the short hood end.

Many RSC-2 locomotives (and some models) had different bogies with the equalising beams inside the frame, rather than outside as shown on the Algerian  locomotive and on all RSC-3s, including the 40 class. In theory, RSC-2s were 1500 HP and RSC-3s were 1600HP but Wikipedia indicates that at least some RSC-2s had 1600HP.

Peter
  Dazz Deputy Commissioner

http://eurekamodels.blogspot.com.au/

Saturday, September 16, 2017  


  Liverpool Exhibition here we come.




A pallet of non-sound 40 class waiting transport to Shanghai airport for on-forwarding to Aus.


Assembly of the 40 class at the factory is almost complete. Unfortunately, anything sent by sea now would not arrive in time for the Liverpool Exhibition. To have at least something for the exhibition, the above pallet of non-sound 40 class has been forwarded by air and is due to arrive at Kingsford Smith on Monday the 18th of September. They should be cleared through Customs by the end of that week.
Distribution will start immediately but there will be a good number of units available at Liverpool.
The "with sound" 40 class and the remainder of the non-sound units will be sent by sea and depending on shipping dates should arrive in Port Botany around the 21st of October.
  c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

Location: in the cuckoos nest
....so here they come.  I was wrong, I anticipated availability in mid September.  Bugger!

It appears the only thing that Chinese are adept at is "unanticipated delays".  They are experts in this field.

They should all be delivered in time for Christmas.  Now where is my Christmas tree?

How many purchasers have dropped off the perch since initial orders opened?  No, he's not dead, he's just pining!

Happy H0, H0, H0ing,

John
  Dazz Deputy Commissioner

it would seem Eureka have shifted a few blue 40-class over the weekend, a few have popped up on social media, people seem happy with them.


  meh Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
That bottom photo is mine Dazz, and indeed they are a great model. Saw one running around a layout too and it was performing smoothly and quietly.
Mine hasn't had a run yet but in the looks department it's certainly up there with the best.

Also, the 12 wheelers (MAL, ACS and AB) samples look fantastic as well.

Cheers,
Mitch
  Dazz Deputy Commissioner

That bottom photo is mine Dazz, and indeed they are a great model. Saw one running around a layout too and it was performing smoothly and quietly.
Mine hasn't had a run yet but in the looks department it's certainly up there with the best.

Also, the 12 wheelers (MAL, ACS and AB) samples look fantastic as well.

Cheers,
Mitch
meh

Hi Mitch, I hope you don't mind me using your photo, it's the first decent one of an actual production model we have seen.

I am certainly looking forward to my three sound equipped versions arriving in, hopefully later this month or early next month, as it's certainly been a long wait, 2009 I think I put my order in!

Cheers
Darren
  brissim Chief Train Controller

And so for the benefit of those who couldn't get to the Show and actually see the 40 Class, does the production model address the issues raised in the last couple of pages - namely the high-riding/see through body and the shiny wheels. Can't really tell from those photos although the bottom photo at least appears to show the wheels are blackened to some degree.

Tony
  meh Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
And so for the benefit of those who couldn't get to the Show and actually see the 40 Class, does the production model address the issues raised in the last couple of pages - namely the high-riding/see through body and the shiny wheels. Can't really tell from those photos although the bottom photo at least appears to show the wheels are blackened to some degree.

Tony
brissim

The wheels are no different to models from Auscision, Austrains etc. I wouldn't call them the colour black but they are chemically blackened/darkened.
The bogie towers (i think the term is) do have un-coated copper contacts exposed, though these could be easily painted.

Comparing the model to photos of 4001 I took back in April it looks pretty spot on. I for one and happy with it and apart from the length delay Eureka have done a great job.

Cheers,
-Mitch
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
After so  many years I  touched a box with a 40 class that I could buy last Saturday at the show.




But I cannot afford it.


Drats.



Regards,
David Head
  qldchook Locomotive Driver

Has anyone with a 40 class on order received them in the post yet?
  Dazz Deputy Commissioner

Tuesday, October 10, 2017  


 An Old Friend Returns:  


The MV Cosco Rotterdam is due in ShangHai in the next few days to load cargo bound for Australia. This cargo will include the balance of Eureka's 40 class production run which is predominantly the "with sound" units together with the "non-sound" units not forwarded previously by air.
The Cosco Rotterdam is expected to sail from ShangHai on the 13th of October and is due in Port Botany on  Thursday, the 26th of October. This should see the 40 class delivered to Eureka's offices on Monday the 30th of October.  Distribution will commence immediately starting with those modellers who have confirmed both the details of their orders and their current address.
Distribution of the non-sound units has reached the half way point. Not all engine numbers were received in the first shipment so the complete distribution of non-sound units will have to wait until the sea shipment is received at the end of October..
  Dazz Deputy Commissioner

I wonder if the sound equipped 40-class shipment arrived as per the previous post, and if so how the distribution is going?

Has anybody else received their 40-class yet?
  Groover Train Controller

Location: A long way from home
I wonder if the sound equipped 40-class shipment arrived as per the previous post, and if so how the distribution is going?

Has anybody else received their 40-class yet?
Dazz
Yep, last week (non sound).
  c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

Location: in the cuckoos nest
Hi 40 class owners.  

I have some friends that have received their 40 Class models.  

I have a few questions regarding the sound versions.  There were no instruction documents included with the sound models and no magnetic wand.

1.  The engine sounds seem to be set at a lowish volume.  Is there a simple way to increase the engine sounds?  It appears that the speaker does not have any associated holes for the sound to exit the body cleanly.  It sounds muffled and reverberates (vibrates with a resonance) at higher throttle settings.

2.  The horn sounds are extremely quiet and again there is a muffled resonance when the horn is used.  Can the horn volume be increased?

3.  Whilst trying various functions (again no function listing was available) one loco was programmed into shutdown mode (usually a combination of F6 keystrokes), and cannot easily be reset (no wand!).  Pressing F10 gives the verbal report "ID3, Shutdown", and the loco will not move with any throttle settings.  Can someone please advise how to reset the loco into normal mode?

Thanks,

John
  NSWGRules Locomotive Fireman

Hi 40 class owners.  

I have some friends that have received their 40 Class models.  

I have a few questions regarding the sound versions.  There were no instruction documents included with the sound models and no magnetic wand.

1.  The engine sounds seem to be set at a lowish volume.  Is there a simple way to increase the engine sounds?  It appears that the speaker does not have any associated holes for the sound to exit the body cleanly.  It sounds muffled and reverberates (vibrates with a resonance) at higher throttle settings.

2.  The horn sounds are extremely quiet and again there is a muffled resonance when the horn is used.  Can the horn volume be increased?

3.  Whilst trying various functions (again no function listing was available) one loco was programmed into shutdown mode (usually a combination of F6 keystrokes), and cannot easily be reset (no wand!).  Pressing F10 gives the verbal report "ID3, Shutdown", and the loco will not move with any throttle settings.  Can someone please advise how to reset the loco into normal mode?

Thanks,

John
c3526blue
Hi John,

I haven't received my two sound versions yet so reading your post I await in 'disappointment'....Sorry to hear your problems.  I do remember speaking with Ron Cunningham at an exhibition a many years back where he said the sound version on the test loco was low on volume and it would be fixed before release.  (maybe not unfortunately).  If I have the same problems I will be definitely ringing Eureka immediately.  Maybe refunds are now the flavour of the month!
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
QSI manual is now a hefty 468 pages, you can download it at http://qsindustries.com/manuals/full%20dcc%20manual.pdf

pages 29-31 cover the various F9 shutdown and F6 startup modes.

page 32 covers the quick system volume increase/decrease.
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
Hi 40 class owners.  

I have some friends that have received their 40 Class models.  

I have a few questions regarding the sound versions.  There were no instruction documents included with the sound models and no magnetic wand.

1.  The engine sounds seem to be set at a lowish volume.  Is there a simple way to increase the engine sounds?  It appears that the speaker does not have any associated holes for the sound to exit the body cleanly.  It sounds muffled and reverberates (vibrates with a resonance) at higher throttle settings.

2.  The horn sounds are extremely quiet and again there is a muffled resonance when the horn is used.  Can the horn volume be increased?

3.  Whilst trying various functions (again no function listing was available) one loco was programmed into shutdown mode (usually a combination of F6 keystrokes), and cannot easily be reset (no wand!).  Pressing F10 gives the verbal report "ID3, Shutdown", and the loco will not move with any throttle settings.  Can someone please advise how to reset the loco into normal mode?

Thanks,

John
c3526blue
If it doesn't sound that great at low volumes, I can imagine that it can only get worse if you turn up the volume? Perhaps that is why it is turned down? Its my experience that sound will escape around the bogies. Its not an issue, really, unless the speaker  enclosure is completely isolated by the body?

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