Topic moved from General by dthead on 10 Oct 2016 21:40
  eddyb Chief Train Controller

"Sent you a pm"

No you haven't!
Yes I did
well you didn't send it to my nickname,
I've received nothing from you,

My last received PM was on 20th Sept and was from dthead regarding a spam post I reported.
Well it is in my outbox
LMAO!!!     It should be in the "sent" box!
Yes it was in the sent box to pressman
Make up your mind.......... Outbox? ......... Sent box? ....... Is Railpage's Private Messaging system broken? ..........

Or did you write it in Invisible ink?
Pressman
It was in the sent box and I do not like your attitude so I hope you never get it.

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  billybaxter Deputy Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
True to your usual form Eddy, making a claim that is easily disproved, getting tangled up in your attempt to claim you're right, then trying to put the blame on the messenger. No wonder everybody ends up telling you to buzz off.
  Valvegear The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Maybe as you have nothing to debate I will just ignore you.
"eddyb"
You don't know what "debate" means.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
It was in the sent box and I do not like your attitude so I hope you never get it.
"eddyb"

I am trying to establish if there is a problem with RP's private messaging system and you don't like my attitude for doing so?
Then you get snooty because I want to investigate!


Ok I'll report a problem to those responsible, and they can check to see if you do have undelivered PM's quite easily



  eddyb Chief Train Controller

As the prime minister of Japan has just called an election and in my opinion CLARA is uneconomical due to our immigration policy I thought I would send him this copy of the Magtube proposal I have just sent to Infrastructure Australia in the hope he would be desperate enough to give Australia a ten year interest free $35b loan.


Project proposal outline


Magtube would connect Melbourne to Sydney via Albury and Canberra with three single 200km tunnels.

Northbound trains would wait at stations for 15 minutes while southbound are in tunnels and vice versa.

Using NWRL tunnel cost it would be AU$30b for the tunnels and I estimate AU$5b for the maglev track.
2,000 seat trains would leave Sydney 6.00, 6.30, 7.00, 7.30 etc.


                                            Melbourne 6.15, 6.45, 7.15, 7.45 etc.  



Detailed project proposal


To avoid conflict and keep all the cities fifteen minutes apart I suggest that each city decides where to put their single Magtube station with Victoria, Act and NSW each contributing $500m per year over the ten years it takes to build it matched by the federal government.

As the 5.6m wide 2,000 seat trains will travel up to 1,000 kph the tunnels would need to be straight and deep between stations in hard rock which is the easiest to tunnel through.

To achieve this speed it must be a near vacuum with only one tonne of air entering the tunnel every time a train leaves a station which would be pushed out the other end via an exhaust valve that consists simply of a vertical 1m diameter pipe with a hinged lid.



Business case development and assessment


To make it economically viable the federal government would need a ten year interest free loan while it is built which I believe could be obtained from  China or South Korea as they both want to develop a I,000 kph train or even Japan as it is desperate to sell their maglev technology which will be even better in ten years

Becoming a monopoly and lasting over 100 years when finished it would pay for itself many times over while growing Albury and Canberra to over five million each with much opportunity for value capture.

Other spin offs in my opinion are it would take pressure off Sydney and Melbourne, delay a second airport at Sydney, if 100 person carriages are used people can just hop on like a bus, much more secure than any surface rail, not limited by g force or air resistance, very cheap to run as maglev has no wheels and I may be going a bit far but defence could be in either city very quickly.

I believe the majority of voters would love it especially those who are unemployed in the country.

If you have any questions please email me.

mistereddb@gmail.com

Regards Eddy Barnett














  Valvegear The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Norda Fittazroy
If you think anybody is going to provide an interest-free loan, you are even sillier than I thought. You belong in a sand pit at kindergarten until you're mature enough to learn a little about the way the real world operates.
  billybaxter Deputy Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
As I said Eddy, you seem to send out plenty of emails, but have you ever got a response?
  Valvegear The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Do you think you'll get a response billy?
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
It was in the sent box and I do not like your attitude so I hope you never get it.

I am trying to establish if there is a problem with RP's private messaging system and you don't like my attitude for doing so?
Then you get snooty because I want to investigate!


Ok I'll report a problem to those responsible, and they can check to see if you do have undelivered PM's quite easily



Pressman
The PM system has been checked by the owner and is working fine eddyb
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Do you think you'll get a response billy?
Valvegear
He'll probably get a invisible PM like I did
  eddyb Chief Train Controller

When Jennifer Westacott mentioned that we should be looking at all areas of pollution rather than just electricity on National press club Australia https://www.npc.org.au/speakers/jennifer-westacott/ it occurred to me that she was very right and people should be encouraged to use trains rather than cars and planes as road transport uses 73% and air 18% [color=#0563c1]https://industry.gov.au/Office-of-the-Chief-Economist/Publications/Documents/aes/2016-australian-energy-statistics.pdf[/color]  
  Valvegear The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Norda Fittazroy
It occurred to you, did it Eddy?  Well, well, how about that!
  b class diesel Station Staff

Hello Eddy.

I have been told to have a look at armchair operators and have come across your ideas.

I've only been on here a few days and I have seen a lot of rail fans that don't want rail being built.

Even if some things in your idea are a little bit sketchy I think that the general idea is excellent and I hope you can convince more people too see it that way.

Regards.

Raymond.
  Clyde Goodwin2 Train Controller

Hello Eddy.

I have been told to have a look at armchair operators and have come across your ideas.

I've only been on here a few days and I have seen a lot of rail fans that don't want rail being built.

Even if some things in your idea are a little bit sketchy I think that the general idea is excellent and I hope you can convince more people too see it that way.

Regards.

Raymond.
b class diesel
Thats because Most Railfans live in Reality land not fantasy land.
  b class diesel Station Staff

Hello Eddy.

I have been told to have a look at armchair operators and have come across your ideas.

I've only been on here a few days and I have seen a lot of rail fans that don't want rail being built.

Even if some things in your idea are a little bit sketchy I think that the general idea is excellent and I hope you can convince more people too see it that way.

Regards.

Raymond.
b class diesel
Thats because Most Railfans live in Reality land not fantasy land.
"Clyde Goodwin2"



Hello Mr Goodwin.

A hundred years ago people would have thought being able to talk on a forum such as this would be a fantasy. I think people like Eddy have a valuable place in society as the future thinkers.

Regards.

Raymond.
  Clyde Goodwin2 Train Controller

I highly doubt Eddy has any grasp of reality at all with his very different ideas.
  b class diesel Station Staff

I highly doubt Eddy has any grasp of reality at all with his very different ideas.
"Clyde Goodwin2"


Respectfully, the earth being round and the earth revolving around the sun were also considered very different ideas. I personally congratulate the man for thinking outside the box. Keep up the good work Eddy.

Regards.

Raymond.
  Clyde Goodwin2 Train Controller

Okay so we will just mark you up as just as strange a person as Eddy then.
  Valvegear The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Respectfully, the earth being round and the earth revolving around the sun were also considered very different ideas. I personally congratulate the man for thinking outside the box. Keep up the good work Eddy.
"b class diesel"
I suggest you read the whole thread. You will (or should) observe that getting scientifically based answers out of Eddy is impossible - he flatly refuses to answer. Eddy can't "keep up the good work" because he hasn't done any good work. His whole writing has been full of vague ideas with no factual information at all, despite a number of us repeatedly wanting answers.  If you really believe that he has something concrete to offer in his ramblings, I'll get him to move over and make room for you in the kindergarten sand pit.
  b class diesel Station Staff

Okay so we will just mark you up as just as strange a person as Eddy then.
"Clyde Goodwin2"


Sir,

If being strange to you means thinking outside of the box then so be it.

Respectfully.

Raymond.
  b class diesel Station Staff

Respectfully, the earth being round and the earth revolving around the sun were also considered very different ideas. I personally congratulate the man for thinking outside the box. Keep up the good work Eddy.
"b class diesel"
I suggest you read the whole thread. You will (or should) observe that getting scientifically based answers out of Eddy is impossible - he flatly refuses to answer. Eddy can't "keep up the good work" because he hasn't done any good work. His whole writing has been full of vague ideas with no factual information at all, despite a number of us repeatedly wanting answers.  If you really believe that he has something concrete to offer in his ramblings, I'll get him to move over and make room for you in the kindergarten sand pit.
"Valvegear"


Good evening Valvegear.

After reading through the thread I tend to agree with you that Eddy does have some quite interesting ideas. Regardless I still commend him for having the courage to continue to post even if it goes against the general consensus.

Respectfully as always.

Raymond.
  Valvegear The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Norda Fittazroy
After reading through the thread I tend to agree with you that Eddy does have some quite interesting ideas. Regardless I still commend him for having the courage to continue to post even if it goes against the general consensus.
"b class diesel"
It's not a question of interesting ideas, courage, or general consensus. It's a question of practical engineering about which Eddy demonstrates that he knows absolutely nothing. Ditto with costing. Ditto with safety arrangements, and so on. I have the courage to post about building a bridge from Point Nepean to Devonport but I wouldn't do it simply because it's out of my field of expertise. Eddy has no such conscience. He knows he can't answer questions about details - have you read billybaxter's list of questions to name just one? No answers; he just ploughs on quoting "one-liners" from such luminaries as his son-in-law. Don't put yourself in the same loony bin as Eddy.
  Clyde Goodwin2 Train Controller

Valvegear its another one that refuses to listen to facts/Advice so you should not waste your time,he seems pretty much like myrtone basicly.
  b class diesel Station Staff

Thank you Valvegear. I will keep that in mind, Its a shame some others on this forum cannot fathom being polite.

Respectfully.

Raymond.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Before you post in this particular thread again, keep in mind that what you post here will affect how seriously people take you in other threads on the site.

You are right that we may well get to this sort of goal in the future, but there are a lot of precursor technologies to be developed first. Even if that does happen, the magtube could well turn out to be less of a functional mode of transport and more of an Apollo Program that is close to useless in its own right but important for stimulating other technological developments.

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