Adelaide City East Tram Extension Progress

 
  Halo Chief Train Controller

With the tram extension works started on north Terrace let's post photos and progress here.

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  kevin48 Junior Train Controller

With the tram extension works started on north Terrace let's post photos and progress here.
Halo
Ironic isn't it?

Tram tracks along North Terrace 1908.

Ripped up circa 1958.

Put back again 2017. Still basically the same technology. Steel tracks. Electric overhead power supply.

Here and around the world, coming back.

IC proponents, previously led by GM, now on the back foot?
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
As of Noon today (Sunday 8th), Both tracks have been layed and concreted across Frome St intersection. Other areas excavated ready for track work between Frome and King William Streets.
A pile of rail is on the ground between the old RAH stop and East Terrace.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

IC proponents, previously led by GM, now on the back foot?
kevin48
Not in South Australia where both sides of politics still agree on prioritising roads above all else. Other forms of transport only matter if they provide a ribbon that can be cut at a politically convenient time.

In addition to this token ~800m of tram track (double track) and another 650m of electrified metro rail track, the same government is also building 23km of motorway (all of it 3-4 lanes each way), a 700m tunnel for diesel-powered buses (a scheme to get them out of the way of cars) and 1.1km of metro rail track (single track) for diesel multiple units.

When you break it down into track length and lane length, that's 1.45km of new electrified track (plus another ~200m of tram track crossovers and junction) and 164km of brand new infrastructure for IC usage (plus a few kilometres of motorway onramps).
  kevin48 Junior Train Controller

IC proponents, previously led by GM, now on the back foot?
Not in South Australia where both sides of politics still agree on prioritising roads above all else. Other forms of transport only matter if they provide a ribbon that can be cut at a politically convenient time.

In addition to this token ~800m of tram track (double track) and another 650m of electrified metro rail track, the same government is also building 23km of motorway (all of it 3-4 lanes each way), a 700m tunnel for diesel-powered buses (a scheme to get them out of the way of cars) and 1.1km of metro rail track (single track) for diesel multiple units.

When you break it down into track length and lane length, that's 1.45km of new electrified track (plus another ~200m of tram track crossovers and junction) and 164km of brand new infrastructure for IC usage (plus a few kilometres of motorway onramps).
justapassenger
Some very good points there. However the stubs to be in place at East Terrace and Festival Centre offer hope for future expansion East, North and around the City Loop. I am informed that the ACC thwarted the full Grand Union Junction at North Tce/King William because of potential inconvenience to road vehicles.

Our state and country are not alone in continuing to favour private road vehicles over public transport. Future generations may ask why.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

I agree with ACC about the grand union, it would be terrible for traffic movement.

It's unnecessary for tram operation too. Keep the routes and timetables simple and untangled so that an incident on one route doesn't lead to other routes shutting down. Just keep those segments of the junction that are actually necessary for operations, maintaining a grand union is a major PITA which is why they are so rare.

Hopefully the relocation of underground services has been done in full so an upgrade in the future could be done without major excavations, if it ever becomes necessary. But until the chance of that happening is quite low.

I also wonder what will happen for the Christmas Pageant next month and Stage 6 of the Tour Down Under in January. Maybe Events SA will acquire some kind of heavy non-slip matting that they can lay on the surface there or for Jetty Road events at Glenelg (e.g. the TDU street dining event and stage start).
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
With the tram extension works started on north Terrace let's post photos and progress here.
Ironic isn't it?

Tram tracks along North Terrace 1908.

Ripped up circa 1958.

Put back again 2017. Still basically the same technology. Steel tracks. Electric overhead power supply.

Here and around the world, coming back.

IC proponents, previously led by GM, now on the back foot?
kevin48
Yes and No, just really an outcome of different technology

Trams built in 1908 were to provide transport for the growing suburbia which couldn't walk the distance to work and horses too expensive and not near a railway. Combustion engine was still expensive and unreliable.

Trams closed due to using the same roads with costs of cars dropping rapidly and reliability increasing dramatically along with women now driving. Ridership was in decline as was revenue to fund in an era that didn't believe in large scale subsidies. The genuine belief  by many was that Public transport in New World Cities on all but the most congested routes in larger cities was dead or dying. Once everyone had a car, why use PT?

I finished school in the late 80's and once you got a car you rarely used PT. Started driving to school, then work after school. My love of all things rail limited this change for me, but not for many of my friends. In the end I just stopped catching the bus to the station as my job was 60km away on the train. This limited my petrol needs to one tank a week and moderate upkeep on my 15 year old 1974, 150,000km beast. Today a 15 year old car is nothing to maintain and 150,000km is barely run in with most +2010 engines now doing 500,000km without major issues. Back then it needed a full rebuild every 100,000km.

Light rail being rolled back out because the car is a victim of its success and growing population density along with people being more environmentally focused. Petrol prices have increased but compared to historical numbers, its actually still cheaper today than 1980 as are cars more fuel efficient. Hence why PT on weekends is often still grossly underuterlised compared to weekends.

The Peak Oil punters were pushing PT due to the end being nigh. That was less than 10 years ago, it now looks like a bad joke/

Cars will continue to develop and have increasing lower impact environmentally and in growing cities be used less but will not go away.
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
Yes and No, just really an outcome of different technology.
RTT_Rules
Let's not forget the bicycle.

Trams built in 1908 were to provide transport for the growing suburbia which couldn't walk the distance to work and horses too expensive and not near a railway. Combustion engine was still expensive and unreliable.
RTT_Rules
This was during the bicycle craze and yet bicycle accomodation on trams hardly existed.

Trams closed due to using the same roads with costs of cars dropping rapidly and reliability increasing dramatically along with women now driving. Ridership was in decline as was revenue to fund in an era that didn't believe in large scale subsidies. The genuine belief  by many was that Public transport in New World Cities on all but the most congested routes in larger cities was dead or dying. Once everyone had a car, why use PT?
RTT_Rules
There are other factors that bought down trams, does anyone here know about them? As for women, they became, on average, safer drivers in the non-commercial segment. How about this question, does everyone need a car capable of carrying four or more people? Almost no one thought about what would happen if everyone had a four or five seater car and took it everywhere they drove.

No comment on that 1980s scenario, but even I, deep down, see not driving as dependent.

Light rail being rolled back out because the car is a victim of its success and growing population density along with people being more environmentally focused. Petrol prices have increased but compared to historical numbers, its actually still cheaper today than 1980 as are cars more fuel efficient.
RTT_Rules
New cars today are heavier and faster than they were during the motor car craze mentioned above. While engines may be getting more efficient and lighter materials might be used, accessories like power windows, power steering (itself not needed on light cars) and many other powered accessories all add to weight and of course, use power themselves.
  nscaler69 Deputy Commissioner

Location: There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
The 3 extra trams required so trams can run on this extension arrived last Friday Dec 8th at Outer Harbour. Two have already being transferred to the tram depot. (info from a Facebook group).
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
The 3 extra trams required so trams can run on this extension arrived last Friday Dec 8th at Outer Harbour. Two have already being transferred to the tram depot. (info from a Facebook group).
nscaler69
A little birdie (an insider) told me that storage space at the Glengowrie depot is now at a premium, which maybe why one tram remains stored  at Outer Harbor.
  Halo Chief Train Controller

Three pieces of the king William Street Junction are now on site loaded on trucks. One is labeled "panel 5".
  62430 Chief Train Controller

Location: Metro Adelaide
The 3 extra trams required so trams can run on this extension arrived last Friday Dec 8th at Outer Harbour. Two have already being transferred to the tram depot. (info from a Facebook group).
A little birdie (an insider) told me that storage space at the Glengowrie depot is now at a premium, which maybe why one tram remains stored  at Outer Harbor.
Pressman
All 3 trams were moved from Outer Harbor to Depot between 12-16 December.  351 and 352 were moved from depot 18-19 Dec.
  edison Chief Commissioner

What connecting curves are being installed at Nth Tce/KWSt, and how will they be  used?
Obviously not as  versatile as a Grand Union, but were all the connections of the olden-day GU regularly used?

Cheers,

Edison
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

The infrastructure only needs to be built to the level needed to support the services that will use it. Anything more is gold plating.

The new junction will have these curves:
- left from King William St into North Tce (western side) as present
- right from North Tce (west) into King William St as present
- left from King William Road into North Tce (east)
- left from North Tce (east) into King William St

DPTI have not yet confirmed, but it's widely expected that the initial service (before any further extensions) will basically be the current service (uses the King William St to North Tce west curves in both directions) plus a shuttle service running the length of North Terrace. The other left turns are just there for empty movements.

The most interesting aspect will be the service to the Festival/Oval precinct stop at Elder Park. It will probably start out having just peak extras and event services, until it gets extended towards Prospect.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
The most interesting aspect will be the service to the Festival/Oval precinct stop at Elder Park. It will probably start out having just peak extras and event services, until it gets extended towards Prospect.
justapassenger
An extension to Park Terrace with a shuttle terminating at South Terrace would have been the logical thing... the north to south cross CBD service.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
The infrastructure only needs to be built to the level needed to support the services that will use it. Anything more is gold plating.

The new junction will have these curves:
- left from King William St into North Tce (western side) as present
- right from North Tce (west) into King William St as present
- left from King William Road into North Tce (east)
- left from North Tce (east) into King William St
justapassenger
So that's a 3/4 Union Junction
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

The infrastructure only needs to be built to the level needed to support the services that will use it. Anything more is gold plating.

The new junction will have these curves:
- left from King William St into North Tce (western side) as present
- right from North Tce (west) into King William St as present
- left from King William Road into North Tce (east)
- left from North Tce (east) into King William St
So that's a 3/4 Union Junction
Nightfire
A Grand Union has eight connecting tracks, two on each quadrant. This one only has four.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

The most interesting aspect will be the service to the Festival/Oval precinct stop at Elder Park. It will probably start out having just peak extras and event services, until it gets extended towards Prospect.
An extension to Park Terrace with a shuttle terminating at South Terrace would have been the logical thing... the north to south cross CBD service.
don_dunstan
If the extension north is done in multiple stages, I expect the first stage to finish at the last stop within the built up area of North Adelaide.

Taking the line any further north beyond the work being done currently will require major work on the bridge over the Torrens, which would make it a far larger project. I approve of the short extension on King William Road being done now, it will get the North Terrace intersection done without the need to dig it up again and it's better to provide a partially useful stop (for the Festival Centre and Adelaide Oval) than just a stub waiting to be used in the future.
  Halo Chief Train Controller

That bridge has carried trams before. Actually if you look at the light towers the fixing rings for the overhead are still there.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

That is correct, but in its current condition it will need work before it can carry a new tram line with modern trams.
  1S47 Assistant Commissioner

Location: On the Down Fast
According to the construction schedule, trams should be back running through the city from Glenelg to the Entertainment Centre from Monday 22nd, and using part of the new junction at King William St / North Terrace.

With King William St closed all day Sunday for the Tour Down Under, has anyone seen any evidence of test trams running through the new junction yet?  

I suppose the first trials with trams would be done in the early hours of the morning (as seems common on new light rail infrastructure) in case of mishap.

Adelaide Metro website is still saying tram replacement buses run until Sunday 21st, but that same info has been up since the start of the closure. Website has no announcement saying "Trams back Monday".
  Halo Chief Train Controller

Test trams of both types were run last night.

Must have been successful as admet website states tram service from Glenelg to Entertainment centre as of now, 6.30am.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Platform Shelters going up at the various North Terrace stops
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Overhead starting to go up along North Tce. Support cables have been installed between poles on each footpath of North Tce. along with temporary pulleys for the copper contact wire as well as cabling to various pole mounted Isolating switches.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Overhead starting to go up along North Tce. Support cables have been installed between poles on each footpath of North Tce. along with temporary pulleys for the copper contact wire as well as cabling to various pole mounted Isolating switches.
Pressman
Overhead is now completed on both North Terrace and King William Road, but not energised. Safety Grounding straps are in place just east and just north of the King William St North Terrace intersection.
Platform shelter work is progressing at all stops on North Terrace, but haven't started on King William Road.

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