Adelaide City East Tram Extension Progress

 
  Halo Chief Train Controller

With the tram extension works started on north Terrace let's post photos and progress here.

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  kevin48 Junior Train Controller

With the tram extension works started on north Terrace let's post photos and progress here.
Halo
Ironic isn't it?

Tram tracks along North Terrace 1908.

Ripped up circa 1958.

Put back again 2017. Still basically the same technology. Steel tracks. Electric overhead power supply.

Here and around the world, coming back.

IC proponents, previously led by GM, now on the back foot?
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
As of Noon today (Sunday 8th), Both tracks have been layed and concreted across Frome St intersection. Other areas excavated ready for track work between Frome and King William Streets.
A pile of rail is on the ground between the old RAH stop and East Terrace.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

IC proponents, previously led by GM, now on the back foot?
kevin48
Not in South Australia where both sides of politics still agree on prioritising roads above all else. Other forms of transport only matter if they provide a ribbon that can be cut at a politically convenient time.

In addition to this token ~800m of tram track (double track) and another 650m of electrified metro rail track, the same government is also building 23km of motorway (all of it 3-4 lanes each way), a 700m tunnel for diesel-powered buses (a scheme to get them out of the way of cars) and 1.1km of metro rail track (single track) for diesel multiple units.

When you break it down into track length and lane length, that's 1.45km of new electrified track (plus another ~200m of tram track crossovers and junction) and 164km of brand new infrastructure for IC usage (plus a few kilometres of motorway onramps).
  kevin48 Junior Train Controller

IC proponents, previously led by GM, now on the back foot?
Not in South Australia where both sides of politics still agree on prioritising roads above all else. Other forms of transport only matter if they provide a ribbon that can be cut at a politically convenient time.

In addition to this token ~800m of tram track (double track) and another 650m of electrified metro rail track, the same government is also building 23km of motorway (all of it 3-4 lanes each way), a 700m tunnel for diesel-powered buses (a scheme to get them out of the way of cars) and 1.1km of metro rail track (single track) for diesel multiple units.

When you break it down into track length and lane length, that's 1.45km of new electrified track (plus another ~200m of tram track crossovers and junction) and 164km of brand new infrastructure for IC usage (plus a few kilometres of motorway onramps).
justapassenger
Some very good points there. However the stubs to be in place at East Terrace and Festival Centre offer hope for future expansion East, North and around the City Loop. I am informed that the ACC thwarted the full Grand Union Junction at North Tce/King William because of potential inconvenience to road vehicles.

Our state and country are not alone in continuing to favour private road vehicles over public transport. Future generations may ask why.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

I agree with ACC about the grand union, it would be terrible for traffic movement.

It's unnecessary for tram operation too. Keep the routes and timetables simple and untangled so that an incident on one route doesn't lead to other routes shutting down. Just keep those segments of the junction that are actually necessary for operations, maintaining a grand union is a major PITA which is why they are so rare.

Hopefully the relocation of underground services has been done in full so an upgrade in the future could be done without major excavations, if it ever becomes necessary. But until the chance of that happening is quite low.

I also wonder what will happen for the Christmas Pageant next month and Stage 6 of the Tour Down Under in January. Maybe Events SA will acquire some kind of heavy non-slip matting that they can lay on the surface there or for Jetty Road events at Glenelg (e.g. the TDU street dining event and stage start).
  RTT_Rules The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dubai UAE
With the tram extension works started on north Terrace let's post photos and progress here.
Ironic isn't it?

Tram tracks along North Terrace 1908.

Ripped up circa 1958.

Put back again 2017. Still basically the same technology. Steel tracks. Electric overhead power supply.

Here and around the world, coming back.

IC proponents, previously led by GM, now on the back foot?
kevin48
Yes and No, just really an outcome of different technology

Trams built in 1908 were to provide transport for the growing suburbia which couldn't walk the distance to work and horses too expensive and not near a railway. Combustion engine was still expensive and unreliable.

Trams closed due to using the same roads with costs of cars dropping rapidly and reliability increasing dramatically along with women now driving. Ridership was in decline as was revenue to fund in an era that didn't believe in large scale subsidies. The genuine belief  by many was that Public transport in New World Cities on all but the most congested routes in larger cities was dead or dying. Once everyone had a car, why use PT?

I finished school in the late 80's and once you got a car you rarely used PT. Started driving to school, then work after school. My love of all things rail limited this change for me, but not for many of my friends. In the end I just stopped catching the bus to the station as my job was 60km away on the train. This limited my petrol needs to one tank a week and moderate upkeep on my 15 year old 1974, 150,000km beast. Today a 15 year old car is nothing to maintain and 150,000km is barely run in with most +2010 engines now doing 500,000km without major issues. Back then it needed a full rebuild every 100,000km.

Light rail being rolled back out because the car is a victim of its success and growing population density along with people being more environmentally focused. Petrol prices have increased but compared to historical numbers, its actually still cheaper today than 1980 as are cars more fuel efficient. Hence why PT on weekends is often still grossly underuterlised compared to weekends.

The Peak Oil punters were pushing PT due to the end being nigh. That was less than 10 years ago, it now looks like a bad joke/

Cars will continue to develop and have increasing lower impact environmentally and in growing cities be used less but will not go away.
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
Yes and No, just really an outcome of different technology.
RTT_Rules

Let's not forget the bicycle.

Trams built in 1908 were to provide transport for the growing suburbia which couldn't walk the distance to work and horses too expensive and not near a railway. Combustion engine was still expensive and unreliable.
RTT_Rules

This was during the bicycle craze and yet bicycle accomodation on trams hardly existed.

Trams closed due to using the same roads with costs of cars dropping rapidly and reliability increasing dramatically along with women now driving. Ridership was in decline as was revenue to fund in an era that didn't believe in large scale subsidies. The genuine belief  by many was that Public transport in New World Cities on all but the most congested routes in larger cities was dead or dying. Once everyone had a car, why use PT?
RTT_Rules

There are other factors that bought down trams, does anyone here know about them? As for women, they became, on average, safer drivers in the non-commercial segment. How about this question, does everyone need a car capable of carrying four or more people? Almost no one thought about what would happen if everyone had a four or five seater car and took it everywhere they drove.

No comment on that 1980s scenario, but even I, deep down, see not driving as dependent.

Light rail being rolled back out because the car is a victim of its success and growing population density along with people being more environmentally focused. Petrol prices have increased but compared to historical numbers, its actually still cheaper today than 1980 as are cars more fuel efficient.
RTT_Rules

New cars today are heavier and faster than they were during the motor car craze mentioned above. While engines may be getting more efficient and lighter materials might be used, accesories like power windows, power steering (itself not needed on light cars) and many other powered accesories all add to weight and of course, use power themselves.
  nscaler69 Deputy Commissioner

Location: There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
The 3 extra trams required so trams can run on this extension arrived last Friday Dec 8th at Outer Harbour. Two have already being transferred to the tram depot. (info from a Facebook group).

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