SCT Announces Commencement of Dedicated Melbourne to Brisbane Freight Services

 
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Nice pic. Thanks for posting.

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  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
Yes great pics.   A poster was kind enough to clarify to a similar inquiry I had regarding number of locos on some SCT services to/from Brisbane/Bromelton two factors.  Firstly there are no turning facilities at Bromelton so single ended locos of the SCT class cannot be turned.   More importantly the steep grades through NSW limit SCT class locos to around 1500 tonnes if I recall so it doesn't take many wagons loaded up to around 90 tonnes to get to 1,500 especially given SCT stuffs those vans to their full capacity.

Putting aside reliability issues with the Chines built locos, their double cab configuration makes them ideal for the Brisbane job in that you don't need to turn them obviously.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
In the airline forum, it is a long running joke that Air France needs to wash its planes more.

I think we might have identified our Air France of Australian railways...... Wink
  hbedriver Train Controller

I wonder whether the imminent departure of Aurizon from the MB/BM intermodal traffic will see much change with SCT. I assume they will get some growth in business, however they must be very close to the limit with loco utilisation. Perhaps the leased LDP class will be returned to Downer, and could then conceivably go to SCT? They would at least share commonality with their SCT class.

Wagons also may be an issue, although many on the Aurizon trains are still leased CFCLA; they could simply lease those to SCT instead.

The allegedly boring rail scene may yet be up for more changes; let's wait and see!
  Clyde Goodwin2 Chief Train Controller

I wonder whether the imminent departure of Aurizon from the MB/BM intermodal traffic will see much change with SCT. I assume they will get some growth in business, however they must be very close to the limit with loco utilisation. Perhaps the leased LDP class will be returned to Downer, and could then conceivably go to SCT? They would at least share commonality with their SCT class.

Wagons also may be an issue, although many on the Aurizon trains are still leased CFCLA; they could simply lease those to SCT instead.

The allegedly boring rail scene may yet be up for more changes; let's wait and see!
hbedriver
CFCLA have plenty of Loco,s available along with Wagons so SCT would be certainly able to pick up more work by approaching them for leasing of these assets.
  phower Chief Commissioner

Location: Over on Kangaroo Island Sth Aust
What HP does CFCLA have currently for lease ? ,and then does SCT want to lease them  just now  or maybe later, is all of this at wrong time with the expansion they have made and put flow of cash harder for them  .

Are they not a Private Co so have to  watch how the money goes before commitment of out going rolling stock , how long is the lease or what ever they have on imported Loco's  ......... all about $$$$$$ flow !!
  seb2351 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
In the airline forum, it is a long running joke that Air France needs to wash its planes more.

I think we might have identified our Air France of Australian railways...... Wink
james.au
Or perhaps these locos haven't been in the wash shed because they have been captive on the Brisbane run for a bit? Loco washing occurs on a minimum once a week for SCT at Adelaide, and recently two times.

Remind me how often PN locomotives get cleaned as part of their maintenance and compare the size of the fleets.
  seb2351 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
I wonder whether the imminent departure of Aurizon from the MB/BM intermodal traffic will see much change with SCT. I assume they will get some growth in business, however they must be very close to the limit with loco utilisation. Perhaps the leased LDP class will be returned to Downer, and could then conceivably go to SCT? They would at least share commonality with their SCT class.

Wagons also may be an issue, although many on the Aurizon trains are still leased CFCLA; they could simply lease those to SCT instead.

The allegedly boring rail scene may yet be up for more changes; let's wait and see!
CFCLA have plenty of Loco,s available along with Wagons so SCT would be certainly able to pick up more work by approaching them for leasing of these assets.
Clyde Goodwin2
VL362 Spotted heading into Penfield this afternoon, expect to see more VL's shortly on SCT services.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
In the airline forum, it is a long running joke that Air France needs to wash its planes more.

I think we might have identified our Air France of Australian railways...... Wink
Or perhaps these locos haven't been in the wash shed because they have been captive on the Brisbane run for a bit? Loco washing occurs on a minimum once a week for SCT at Adelaide, and recently two times.

Remind me how often PN locomotives get cleaned as part of their maintenance and compare the size of the fleets.
seb2351

Mate - I'm having a joke - I don't care how often they're washed so long as they do the job.

On PN, given they are already dark blue, you don't see the dirt as much...!
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
In addition to the exit from intermodal of Aurizon and how that impacts both PN and SCT in terms of additional business, we are as well approaching the pre Christmas build up where SCT and the others see loading increase quite significantly to the extent that on the East-West Corridor to WA SCT rosters additional trips and at times used to attach vans onto Aurizon services.

I certainly don't have a handle on just how well the Chinese built units of SCT's are really performing compared to the NR's, LDP's, SCT's and other equivalents that are in intense interstate intermodal service.   The only published commentary if indeed there is any relevant comparison is the report undertaken for the New Zealand Government regarding Kiwi Rail's proposal to cease electric traction on the North Island Main Trunk.   The report was scathing about the reliability of the Kiwi Rail Chinese built locomotives.

Of course we've heard quite a lot about reliability with the Chinese units but nothing I'm aware of that quotes failure rates per km's run etc compared to other classes so it could be that SCT is hiring VL's to both handle more business and perhaps as well back up the Chinese units.

Would be interested if our locomotive and traction members know anymore!!!
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
With Aurizon's withdrawal from interstate intermodal and the leased LDP class locomotives becoming available are their any significant differences between the LDP's and SCT class noting that they are part of the same family and I think for example the LDP's are set up for inline fuelling?    The SCT's have certainly done a lot of work for SCT and whilst like any loco they may have issues but these would be being well managed I'm assuming.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
LDPs10-12 have become PN TT class and 13-14 have become SSR class, so id suspect that any of 1-9 could easily become the SCT class with appropriate modificaitons/reclassifications.
  seb2351 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
LDPs 1-9 are good to go across to Perth as is, as they have done so for Aurizon previously. Should SCT acquire them, they could feasibly run as soon as they got them, administrative paperwork aside.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
A quick Aurizon question that is relevant to this thread.  

What was their interstate intermodal fleet made up of?  LDPs, yes, but what else?  Is wikipedia accurate?

I ask because what could SCT feasibly incorporate into its own fleet if it needs to grow, that is available?
  seb2351 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
A quick Aurizon question that is relevant to this thread.  

What was their interstate intermodal fleet made up of?  LDPs, yes, but what else?  Is wikipedia accurate?

I ask because what could SCT feasibly incorporate into its own fleet if it needs to grow, that is available?
james.au
When we cross them, they normally have 6000's on their Adelaide to Perth, with the occasional LDP.

6000's are being redeployed to coal however.
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
With the VL’s, I wonder what services SCT will use them on? Maybe for more power on the Adelaide-Melbourne route or even use two of them on the shuttle from Melbourne-western Victoria shuttles?
  Clyde Goodwin2 Chief Train Controller

What HP does CFCLA have currently for lease ? ,and then does SCT want to lease them  just now  or maybe later, is all of this at wrong time with the expansion they have made and put flow of cash harder for them  .

Are they not a Private Co so have to  watch how the money goes before commitment of out going rolling stock , how long is the lease or what ever they have on imported Loco's  ......... all about $$$$$$ flow !!
phower
So the 4 CFCLA units attached to SCT train BM9 Yesterday dont exist then.
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
Great News:

SCT to additional addition 5th weekly round trip.    Commences Friday,

Extract below from SCT News Bulletin


ADDITIONAL NORTH SOUTH SERVICES

MELBOURNE/WODONGA TO BRISBANE
Departing Service Arrive Brisbane
Monday 2MB9 Wednesday
Tuesday 3MB9 Thursday
Wednesday 4MB9 Friday
Friday 6MB9 Sunday
Saturday 7MB9 Monday

BRISBANE TO WODONGA/MELBOURNE
Departing Service Arrive Wodonga/Melbourne
Sunday 1BM9 Tuesday
Monday 2BM9 Wednesday
Wednesday 4BM9 Friday
Thursday 5BM9 Saturday
Saturday 7BM9 Monday



May say something about SCT's move to hire VL's from CFCLA in order to reallocate their fleet to handle this additional assignment.
  phower Chief Commissioner

Location: Over on Kangaroo Island Sth Aust
Anybody got an Idea for sure , how many they have on Hire /Lease and for how long with the latest loco's from CFCLA the VL's
  MetroFemme Chief Train Controller

Great news.
  packa Junior Train Controller

Just sighted a lone engine into the Wodonga SCT yard from Melb direction and pulled aprox 15-20 wagons back toward Melb. around midday.
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
With Melb-Brisbane business increasing seperate shuttles to/from Barnawatha maybe more frequent rather than taking up space on thru services.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Are there pickups/drop-offs from Brisbane to Barnawartha still happening?  Or is Barnawartha just collecting Melbourne freight?
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
There is a photo over on Vicsig dated Wed 25th Oct 2017 showing "42206 with an Aurizon transfer to SCT Laverton at West Footscray Junction (SG)"
Quite a big load of containers, does anyone know what this would be for?

Seems odd in light of this thread.

BG
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Just sighted a lone engine into the Wodonga SCT yard from Melb direction and pulled aprox 15-20 wagons back toward Melb. around midday.
packa

CSR002 on 6708V to Laverton currently around Euroa.

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