Pacific National orders PowerHaul locos

 
Topic moved from News by bevans on 09 Jul 2016 19:53
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

I haven't seen any signs of the UGL's moving yet.  I did notice mid august that EFB5800 posted this photo,

https://www.flickr.com/photos/efb5800/28458169324

of a flat car at Goninans looking ready to transport 6 wheel bogies so maybe the locos will be towed.
Is it absolutely certain that they will be coming to Qld? I have not discounted SA and WA which have 3' 6" even though I don't know of any requirement for them.

While I'm here I guess the UGL's will become 89 Class.
GS4
While there has been no definitive information on the PowerHauls' future allocation, it is very unlikely they will go anywhere but North Queensland. In Western Australia they would be restricted to Brookfield's 20-tonne axle load lines, primarily Perth-Picton-Collie, and Karara-Geraldton over which Aurizon retains all of the current non-grain contracts (as far as I know). Likewise, only G&W's Whyalla narrow gauge network in South Australia could support the PowerHauls, and it is unlikely PN will find work on this network anytime soon.

The narrow gauge situation in Queensland is PN now hauls just under 60-million tonnes of coal, zinc concentrates and intermodal per annum, using 64 diesels and 42 electrics. Added to this, PN's QCoal contract is about to be boosted by another 10-million tonnes per annum when the Byerwen coal mine opens later this year on the diesel only Newlands system. The 88s were purchased to service the QCoal contract and given the 88s' ongoing issues, the PowerHauls will likely be allocated to Townsville (close to the UGL's Bohle plant) to free up Mt Isa line 83s for the Newlands System. As for numbering, I have heard PN will number them above the exisiting AC traction UGL/GE classes, so possibly the 94 or 95 class.

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  EFB5800 Chief Train Controller

Location: On my office roof.
UGLy001 and 002 are getting dressed in PN paint, 003 is in the paint building still in demo paint, not for long.

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/efb5800/30192475206/
  GS4 Junior Train Controller

UGLy001 and 002 are getting dressed in PN paint, 003 is in the paint building still in demo paint, not for long.

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/efb5800/30192475206/
EFB5800
Thanks EFB5800, I will be at Nebo & Townsville in about a week so I'm a bit early for their arrival. I'll still try to seek out the 88's
  M636C Minister for Railways

UGLy001 and 002 are getting dressed in PN paint, 003 is in the paint building still in demo paint, not for long.

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/efb5800/30192475206/
Thanks EFB5800, I will be at Nebo & Townsville in about a week so I'm a bit early for their arrival. I'll still try to seek out the 88's
GS4
The commissioning shed near the old Waitara coal loader is a good place to look for 88 class.

There have been some there when ever I have gone looking for them.

I think they were fencing it off a bit more last August.

Do the UGLs have PN numbers yet?
  EFB5800 Chief Train Controller
  DounutCereal Chief Train Controller

Location: Who knows.
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/efb5800/29958058414/
EFB5800
A little off topic but would that be one of the 3 new 93's that PN got with the UGLies in the foreground?
  EFB5800 Chief Train Controller

Location: On my office roof.
That's one of the old never sold GWU's that's been there for a while. I believe it is to become a 93 as part of the same deal for the PHs?
  M636C Minister for Railways

That's one of the old never sold GWU's that's been there for a while. I believe it is to become a 93 as part of the same deal for the PHs?
EFB5800
Weren't the two GWUs both painted cream?

The grey unit is rather newer, by more than a year, and never carried a number.

But it is one of the three to become 93 class.

M636C
  GS4 Junior Train Controller

UGLy001 and 002 are getting dressed in PN paint, 003 is in the paint building still in demo paint, not for long.

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/efb5800/30192475206/
Thanks EFB5800, I will be at Nebo & Townsville in about a week so I'm a bit early for their arrival. I'll still try to seek out the 88's
The commissioning shed near the old Waitara coal loader is a good place to look for 88 class.

There have been some there when ever I have gone looking for them.

I think they were fencing it off a bit more last August.

Do the UGLs have PN numbers yet?


I went back to Waitara on the 26th of this month and there was one 88 parked a midst of a few short strings of coal wagons , I didn't even try to take a photo due to only about 1 metre of loco being visible.  The local council hasn't cut the grass on the side of the road for a while either so it would mean stopping the car in long grass too , maybe not a good idea.
I'm still a bit surprised how long UGL has let these millions of dollars of locos sit around for.  I worked for a few decades in manufacturing for mining / industrial and everything was wanted yesterday with literally transport companies turning up to ship goods while paint was still being applied.  
M636C
  EFB5800 Chief Train Controller

Location: On my office roof.
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/efb5800/31112939056/

All 3 UGL class out in the sun today. Still not decalled or renumbered. Also a 'new' 93 in the shed.
  GS4 Junior Train Controller

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/efb5800/31112939056/

All 3 UGL class out in the sun today. Still not decalled or renumbered. Also a 'new' 93 in the shed.
EFB5800
Thanks for sharing the photos EFB5800, any news is interesting. The sign writing guys must be away on holidays.  Smile
  GS4 Junior Train Controller

I know this is an old thread buuuuuuuut ....

Are the PH37's still in Goninans yard or have they finally shipped out ?
  M636C Minister for Railways

I know this is an old thread buuuuuuuut ....

Are the PH37's still in Goninans yard or have they finally shipped out ?
GS4
I last looked on 1 October, and PH003 and PH001 were both still there in full PN paint and lettering.

Peter
  GS4 Junior Train Controller

I know this is an old thread buuuuuuuut ....

Are the PH37's still in Goninans yard or have they finally shipped out ?
I last looked on 1 October, and PH003 and PH001 were both still there in full PN paint and lettering.

Peter
M636C
Thanks Peter , , I expect any troubles with these new locos should be easily sorted after removing the years of accumulated cobwebs and dust.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

The word is they'll be moved to PN's Nebo maintenance facilities on Aurizon's Goonyella Line "soon".
  GS4 Junior Train Controller

The word is they'll be moved to PN's Nebo maintenance facilities on Aurizon's Goonyella Line "soon".
Sulla1
Oh dear, why did I suddenly remember a couple of my former bosses saying I would be getting a pay rise "soon" ?



So if they go to Nebo are they more than likely going into coal hauling service ?  It's like the Bermuda Triangle out there with the way the 88's have disappeared.

Smile
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

There's reports the PHs are on the move today, with at least one on the highway at the moment, heading for Queensland.

There's also talk the 88s will be reallocated to Townsville soon, possibly for the Mt Isa line. Time will tell on that one, but with the sugar contracts stsrting next year, PN Bulk will need an absolute minimum of five additional locos in Townsville...and more likely six or seven.
  M636C Minister for Railways

There's reports the PHs are on the move today, with at least one on the highway at the moment, heading for Queensland.

There's also talk the 88s will be reallocated to Townsville soon, possibly for the Mt Isa line. Time will tell on that one, but with the sugar contracts stsrting next year, PN Bulk will need an absolute minimum of five additional locos in Townsville...and more likely six or seven.
Sulla1
So there is still a chance for the remaining 83 class at Maryborough.....

Peter
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

There have been rumours the six LDPs/83s at Downer Maryborough have indeed been sold, but to date an official announcement or a photo of a new logo/livery have not yet appeared. Everyone involved is remaining very tight lipped.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

At least one PH has been sighted travelling by road through Central Queensland this morning. It's likely to be at PN's Nebo locomotive depot this afternoon or tomorrow.
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
Only a guess Sulla 1 but could they be for SCT.   They've been struggling with motive power problems for quite a while as as you are probably aware have CFCLA VL class units on hire.   I have tried to enquire around the place what the performance of their Chinese units has been like but very hard to get specific details.
  M636C Minister for Railways

Only a guess Sulla 1 but could they be for SCT.   They've been struggling with motive power problems for quite a while as as you are probably aware have CFCLA VL class units on hire.   I have tried to enquire around the place what the performance of their Chinese units has been like but very hard to get specific details.
Trainplanner


This would involve conversion of the GT42CU-AC to standard gauge.

While not that hard, it would require new bogies being built.
There are two JT42Cs based on the WAGR NG S design at Weipa, and a similar bogie design could be used.

Being only 3030HP and having small traction motors would reduce their usefulness to SCT compared to their other locomotives.



However, they are available for sale.



Peter
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
Thanks for the clarification.  Cheers
  Hogey66 Beginner

Heard a rumour they are going to Dysart first before heading to the facility at Nebo.
  A7EL Station Master

Location: At my desk
PH001 and PH002 sighted at Nebo Facility

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