I seem to recall you mentioning that your dad thought that Joe Hockey was a nice guy - I do remember things that you say you know. It's not a personal attack on you or your family - I just happened to remember what you said.Tony Abbott is also a nice guy in his personal life from all accounts, I've even heard ALP members comment on some of his personal attributes and how he has helped many during personal crisis including G. Richardson, but that doesn't mean he's a good PM or Hockey. Having watched Hockey and Rudd for a number of years on the morning show weekly chat, I thought both were nice guys and would make good senior members of govt. Obviously not correct.Agree, Tones attacks on MT and for this he doesn't deserve a 2nd chance.You said earlier that we would have nothing to vote for unless Tones started his own party - I took from this that you still thought he was an electable leader.The 2nd last paragraph just described to a T why my mum left her country town 50 years ago, rumors and innuendo. Do I think it would be worse with the mega database's, unlikely!What are you basing that on?When was the last time someone was "glassed" in Dubai? Do I feel my wife could safely walk home at 3am in the morning from the pub, yes.How do you connect the lack of personal/property crime in your particular part of the world with increased mass surveillance? Is there any evidence that increased mass surveillance results in lower crime or are you just making an assumption based on what you feel is right?Personal opinion only, the so called protections in the USA are lip service only, do we really believe the likes of the CIA don't know everything and use it as they see fit?I'm not worried about the CIA, I'm worried about petty local bureaucrats. And its a real fear - they dip into this stuff all time. ATO employees snooping on celebrities, police officers exceeding their authority. This is a much bigger problem and you're giving them more and more powerful tools to snoop on your life with bugger all oversight.I understand the fear in these mega data bases. But for me there are bigger issues that impact on our lives than this.Picture this: The Chinese government asks the Australian government to hand over all the data they have on dissident political activity. And if we don't comply they'll turn the economic screws. There's all sorts of potential for a big, centralised database on everyone to be abused.
Small town gossip based on your personal life or the local police officer digging up dirt electronically and spreading the same which by the end of the day will be vastly twisted from facts, not much difference.
The more people feel they are being watched the less they are likely to play up. The mass roll out of street camera's, CCTV was argued on the basis of reduced crime and more likely to catch the guilty.
If the govt didn't track potential terrorists and they killed people, the govt is considered inept. How do you supposedly track people who have not committed a crime but are suspected to do so if you don't have the data? In the US right now they are digging through one mans life data trying to work out how he became the US's largest single handed mass murderer, which I personally also consider an act of terror. From what they learn they will try and profile him and with this profile potential future wanna be repeaters. Profiling potential criminals is useless if you don't have the database to start with.
Yes we are headed down the path of Tom Cruise's movie where people are arrested for the crimes the govt believes they will commit. How far do or should we go down this path? I don't know. If you ask this question to the family members of three people killed by a terrorist in Sydney in recent years, I'm sure they will say we are not far enough. I suppose it gets down to how much are we willing to lose to protect our privacy? The American's refuse to give up their "right to bare" arms knowing full well this right leads to the death of +11,000 people each year at the end of the gun and more than 4 times the head count per capita compared to other western English speaking countries.