Lithgow-tech: Solar powered train to run Byron Bay circuit

 
  Spletsie Chief Commissioner

http://www.lithgowmercury.com.au/story/5025455/lithgow-tech-solar-powered-train-to-run-byron-bay-circuit/


620 Class railcars from Lithgow State Mine Railway have been converted to solar power and are on their way to Byron Bay to run services.

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  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
cool the hippies will probably like that
  Clyde Goodwin2 Chief Train Controller

They left Lithgow some time yesterday on floats.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Would have been nice to see the unit on the rails to Byron.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Would have been nice to see the unit on the rails to Byron.
bevans
Recent modifications mean it is out of gauge.
  gordon_s1942 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Tablelands of NSW
Would have been nice to see the unit on the rails to Byron.
bevans
Recent modifications mean it is out of gauge.
"bingley hall"

Do you mean the Rail Gauge or the structural (loading) gauge of the vehicle itself?

Apparently the Motor was sent by Road from Lithgow to Byron Bay via Mudgee to begin with.
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

Would have been nice to see the unit on the rails to Byron.
Recent modifications mean it is out of gauge.

Do you mean the Rail Gauge or the structural (loading) gauge of the vehicle itself?

Apparently the Motor was sent by Road from Lithgow to Byron Bay via Mudgee to begin with.
gordon_s1942
Why would the rail gauge change for goodness sake? Obviously loading gauge.
  gordon_s1942 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Tablelands of NSW
Just making sure I read the posting correctly as I havent been following this project and not aware of all the modifications made to the Motor for it to 'Go GREEN".
  Clyde Goodwin2 Chief Train Controller

Just making sure I read the posting correctly as I havent been following this project and not aware of all the modifications made to the Motor for it to 'Go GREEN".
gordon_s1942
Pathetic Solar battery/electric system now fitted and one motor removed.
The whole length of line it will run on is 3.5km at not much more than 20kph,basically a huge hipster/yuppie/ Byron bay type look at me self love fest.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
The whole length of line it will run on is 3.5km at not much more than 20kph,basically a huge hipster/yuppie/ Byron bay type look at me self love fest.
"Clyde Goodwin2"
I suppose it's BYO Weed.
  Clyde Goodwin2 Chief Train Controller

The whole length of line it will run on is 3.5km at not much more than 20kph,basically a huge hipster/yuppie/ Byron bay type look at me self love fest.
I suppose it's BYO Weed.
Valvegear
LOL Yes more than likely it is.
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: Trapped in a meeting with Rhonda and Karsten
Just making sure I read the posting correctly as I havent been following this project and not aware of all the modifications made to the Motor for it to 'Go GREEN".
Pathetic Solar battery/electric system now fitted and one motor removed.
The whole length of line it will run on is 3.5km at not much more than 20kph,basically a huge hipster/yuppie/ Byron bay type look at me self love fest.
Clyde Goodwin2
Relax mate, it's a tourist railway. 3.5km @ 20kph is pretty standard.
  Clyde Goodwin2 Chief Train Controller

LD
I am p!ssed off because they have taken a beautifully restored 620/720 class Railmotor and butchered it to make a toy train for a 5 star hipster/yuppie resort.
Its never going to be transporting mum ,dad and the billy lids of joe and mary homemaker type just up market wayne kerrs of the type byron bay is infested with.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
LD I am p!ssed off because they have taken a beautifully restored 620/720 class Railmotor and butchered it to make a toy train for a 5 star hipster/yuppie resort. Its never going to be transporting mum ,dad and the billy lids of joe and mary homemaker type just up market wayne kerrs of the type byron bay is infested with.
Clyde Goodwin 2

I'm sure we can agree that I could be worse (i.e. a restaurant, a shed). This is pioneering Technology and I look forward to seeing more Retrofitted RMs to be honest though I see part of your argument about the upper class. You are acting similar to how I was in 'the thread' (yes that one, I'm sure you remember). Anyway a least there is some less co2 going into the air as it is meant to be solar powered.

  Spletsie Chief Commissioner

It will be interesting to see how much patronage it attracts when the service is up and running.
  ivahri Train Controller

LD I am p!ssed off because they have taken a beautifully restored 620/720 class Railmotor and butchered it to make a toy train for a 5 star hipster/yuppie resort. Its never going to be transporting mum ,dad and the billy lids of joe and mary homemaker type just up market wayne kerrs of the type byron bay is infested with.

I'm sure we can agree that I could be worse (i.e. a restaurant, a shed). This is pioneering Technology and I look forward to seeing more Retrofitted RMs to be honest though I see part of your argument about the upper class. You are acting similar to how I was in 'the thread' (yes that one, I'm sure you remember). Anyway a least there is some less co2 going into the air as it is meant to be solar powered.
Dangersdan707
Well no, it isn't saving CO2 because it wasn't in service... and one could ask about what a waste of energy such a short route is when those who so passionately believe in not wasting resources could as easily ride a bike... You don't want to mention what happens to the batteries when they die do you?

And no-one is game to ask what now will happen when inevitably this circus loses its appeal & the carriages are left to rust in the Byron sea air. They will now be useless for any other purpose. They no longer have the range or the power to be used in real applications. All this shows is how self indulgent some people up around Byron are.


Richard
  882seu4me Station Staff

This thread has most bases covered in record time.

Stereotypes  :  Everyone in Byron Bay is stoned.

Ignorance:  Out of gauge? What, not 4'8 1/2"any more? No, loading gauge is problematic. On a truck? Line is out of use... no excuse.

Fear of The New  :  A solar powered train!! The end of the world is near. Run, Cecil.

Indignance   Just coz it is a really well restored example of a great piece of kit, it should rust in a shed somewhere, rather than suffer the horror of solar power. In a town full of useless hippies. For 3.5 km. At 20 km/h.

Give us a break people. Someone has stepped outside the envelope, shown some initiative, and these are your opinions? Really?

I, for one, wish them all the best. Who knows where this idea could lead? There is a vocal lobby to reopen the line, and this small start could contribute.

Now it is back to years of anonymity.
  882seu4me Station Staff

LD I am p!ssed off because they have taken a beautifully restored 620/720 class Railmotor and butchered it to make a toy train for a 5 star hipster/yuppie resort. Its never going to be transporting mum ,dad and the billy lids of joe and mary homemaker type just up market wayne kerrs of the type byron bay is infested with.

I'm sure we can agree that I could be worse (i.e. a restaurant, a shed). This is pioneering Technology and I look forward to seeing more Retrofitted RMs to be honest though I see part of your argument about the upper class. You are acting similar to how I was in 'the thread' (yes that one, I'm sure you remember). Anyway a least there is some less co2 going into the air as it is meant to be solar powered.
Well no, it isn't saving CO2 because it wasn't in service... and one could ask about what a waste of energy such a short route is when those who so passionately believe in not wasting resources could as easily ride a bike... You don't want to mention what happens to the batteries when they die do you?

And no-one is game to ask what now will happen when inevitably this circus loses its appeal & the carriages are left to rust in the Byron sea air. They will now be useless for any other purpose. They no longer have the range or the power to be used in real applications. All this shows is how self indulgent some people up around Byron are.


Richard
ivahri
I think Lithgow still own it, and will want it back if the venture fails. And I believe there is still one Cummins left on board for cloudy days.
  locojoe67 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Gen X purgatory/urban Joh-land
I've been following this for years, been in touch with them by email, and can attest that the company has gone to great lengths to overcome (hyped up) community objections. The move to total solar power was partly motivated by NIMBY noise complaints. Though we well know that pre-existing truck noise already outweighs what little output a Cummins powered railmotor will generate at less than 40kph.

It's a flat 3km run and i admire the company for sticking with the idea. Good on them.

One underfloor diesel motor has been retained in the event of failure of the primary drive. But most of the time it should run on near silent electric motors. The most noise will be from a tap of the horn at level crossings.
  gordon_s1942 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Tablelands of NSW
Even at its worst, this use is better than NOTHING and despite all the mountains of impenetrable CRAP that has had to be overcome, it has BEEN DONE !!!
I dont expect it to be a magical roaring success and bring accolades from all over the World but it might put some hands in pockets to get other projects running.

We are still waiting for the Trumpet call to announce a DEFINITE re-openng for the States most recognised Tourist line, The Lithgow Zig Zag which is still despite a enthusiastic report made some months ago now of their hope to do so in the 'near future', silent as to their prospects of resuming a service before the end of 2017 !!!
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

Even at its worst, this use is better than NOTHING and despite all the mountains of impenetrable CRAP that has had to be overcome, it has BEEN DONE !!!
I dont expect it to be a magical roaring success and bring accolades from all over the World but it might put some hands in pockets to get other projects running.

We are still waiting for the Trumpet call to announce a DEFINITE re-openng for the States most recognised Tourist line, The Lithgow Zig Zag which is still despite a enthusiastic report made some months ago now of their hope to do so in the 'near future', silent as to their prospects of resuming a service before the end of 2017 !!!
gordon_s1942
Zig Zag have been asking for volunteers and it appears they have had quite a few takers with much progress made. Instead of making twee little comments from the comfort of your armchair, if you are so enthusiastic to see it up and running, you could also volunteer.
  Clyde Goodwin2 Chief Train Controller

882
Out of gauge does NOT refer to the  track gauge but the fact that with the stupid solar panels stuck on the roof it is now outside the Loading gauge (look it up)  and did not need having her engine removed as they are not loud at the low speeds it will be doing and could have very happily have ran on biodiesel instead of this thing.
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
I note the Byron Bay rail vehicle has an electric motor. Nothing new there, as, like many here, I saw an electric motor powered rail vehicle happily transporting people yesterday. In my case it was the Gold Coast tram, in other Railpage members cases, it could have been any of the electric trams or trains around Australia and NZ.

Nothing new in an electric motor powered passenger rail vehicle.
  gordon_s1942 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Tablelands of NSW
Even at its worst, this use is better than NOTHING and despite all the mountains of impenetrable CRAP that has had to be overcome, it has BEEN DONE !!!
I dont expect it to be a magical roaring success and bring accolades from all over the World but it might put some hands in pockets to get other projects running.

We are still waiting for the Trumpet call to announce a DEFINITE re-openng for the States most recognised Tourist line, The Lithgow Zig Zag which is still despite a enthusiastic report made some months ago now of their hope to do so in the 'near future', silent as to their prospects of resuming a service before the end of 2017 !!!
Zig Zag have been asking for volunteers and it appears they have had quite a few takers with much progress made. Instead of making twee little comments from the comfort of your armchair, if you are so enthusiastic to see it up and running, you could also volunteer.
nswtrains
Your comment is valid and I take it as it was meant not to be picky or 'Twee' as you put it but help but regrettably due to my health I am unable to do much else now other than read about what is proposed.
I am very aware when I make ANY comments on a matter, the printed word may at times not convey the meaning I want so I try to avoid being 'Too Armchair'.
I am the first to acknowledge that the ZIG ZAG Trust has suffered monumental catastrophes over the last few years particularly the  Army Camp Fire and then Flooding causing more damage that should have seen the end of the Zig Zag but it didnt.
But as far as I am aware, neither of these 2 events were what closed the Zig Zag in the first place.
  Mrs_O Station Master

Location: At a Station near You!
This article in the Byron News contains a short video of one of the units being unloaded.

'Huge milestone' as solar train arrives in Byron

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