'Busy' Brighton

 
  derwentparkjunc Chief Train Controller

On one of my very occasional drives past the Brighton Hub yesterday morning I noted plenty of locos and wagons in the yard.
A 4 loco hookup was at the head of a decent sized container train facing north while another pair of TRs was reversing a small empty log consist into loading position before heading for the loco shed.

Another solo TR was resting near the loco shed as was the usual Y.
Away from the loading tracks on the Midland Hwy side of the yard was a decent consist of loaded logs without locos hooked up.

Is this a fairly standard number of locos to be at Brighton at that time of day?

I was slightly surprised also to see a train on a siding at Rogerville - ballast wagons were being loaded behind 2 DQs.

I'd be interested to hear from informed locals as to the best times to see train action in the Brighton area.

Cheers,
DPJ

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  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
Another solo TR was resting near the loco shed as was the usual Y.
derwentparkjunc
I thought all the EEs had been retired?
  Peter-Hem Locomotive Driver

Location: Tassie
There's usually three trains that head north most evenings.
First - a container train - nearly always led by two TRs (but sometimes three).
Second - the log train / Boyer coal wagons - usually led by two TRs, (but sometimes just a single engine).
Third - a second container train - nearly always led by two TRs (but sometimes three).
The ballast train - nearly always pulled by two DQs.
Engine 2151 (Y Class) has been sitting beside the Brighton shed since the Yard was first opened. It hasn't moved in years.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
 Graham4405I thought all the EEs had been retired?
no they still have one y class
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
Engine 2151 (Y Class) has been sitting beside the Brighton shed since the Yard was first opened. It hasn't moved in years.
Peter-Hem
2151 was at Burnie on 20/02/2010!
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
There's usually three trains that head north most evenings.
First - a container train - nearly always led by two TRs (but sometimes three).
Second - the log train / Boyer coal wagons - usually led by two TRs, (but sometimes just a single engine).
Third - a second container train - nearly always led by two TRs (but sometimes three).
The ballast train - nearly always pulled by two DQs.
Engine 2151 (Y Class) has been sitting beside the Brighton shed since the Yard was first opened. It hasn't moved in years.
Peter-Hem
Thanks for that info

Regarding the Y,

see google maps, its next to the shed, assume its in the same location. If so one of the few locations where the tracks havebeen used just once?

Did it power itself there?

https://www.google.ae/maps/place/Brighton+TAS+7030,+Australia/@-42.7129923,147.2311529,98m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0xaa6e1247793e1823:0x503c94dd0de1410!8m2!3d-42.7!4d147.25?hl=en&authuser=0
  Z1NorthernProgress2110 Chief Commissioner

Location: Burnie, Tasmania
 Graham4405I thought all the EEs had been retired?
no they still have one y class
Dangersdan707
No, they have two Y class. One here in Burnie, the other at Brighton.

2151 was towed there either late 2013 or early 2014, since then was used as a shunter then stored. It can't be towed elsewhere due to some bogie issues.

2150 last used late 2016 and stored at the old EBR shops, same as 2151, can't be towed elsewhere.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
does the one converted to a driving van count?
  Z1NorthernProgress2110 Chief Commissioner

Location: Burnie, Tasmania
does the one converted to a driving van count?
Dangersdan707
DV1 doesn't. Cause it has no engine nor traction motors. Just a cab for the driver to sit in. Its on its last legs anyway.

Believe there is a surplus "DQ" loco getting converted to a DV atm.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
hope they are preserved at least seems most of the Tasmanian gunnels like em
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
does the one converted to a driving van count?
DV1 doesn't. Cause it has no engine nor traction motors. Just a cab for the driver to sit in. Its on its last legs anyway.

Believe there is a surplus "DQ" loco getting converted to a DV atm.
Z1NorthernProgress2110
Whats there to wear out in DV1?

A DQ while not a big loco is I assume alot heavier and more to drag around? Or they going to do some gas axing of excess weight and remove the CO-CO and replace with standard freight bogies etc?
  Z1NorthernProgress2110 Chief Commissioner

Location: Burnie, Tasmania
The body on DV1 is riddle with rust.
As for the DQ, it will have normal co-co bogies, without traction motors, no engine/gen set either. It will be treated as the same as DV1 atm.
  Z1NorthernProgress2110 Chief Commissioner

Location: Burnie, Tasmania
hope they are preserved at least seems most of the Tasmanian gunnels like em
Dangersdan707
There is a total of 8 Y class built, all survive.
2150/Y1 Stored at Burnie, owned by TasRail.
Y2 at Derwent Vallery Railway, New Norfolk
Y3, Queen Victoria Museum and Art Gallery Inveresk(a waste to be honest)
Y4, Tasmanian Transport Museum, Glenorchy
2151/Y5 Stored at Brighton, owned by TasRail
Y6, Don River Railway
DV1/Y7, cement train between Devonport and Railton, owned by TasRail
Y8, Don River Railway not operational.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
hope they are preserved at least seems most of the Tasmanian gunnels like em
There is a total of 8 Y class built, all survive.
2150/Y1 Stored at Burnie, owned by TasRail.
Y2 at Derwent Vallery Railway, New Norfolk
Y3, Queen Victoria Museum and Art Gallery Inveresk(a waste to be honest)
Y4, Tasmanian Transport Museum, Glenorchy
2151/Y5 Stored at Brighton, owned by TasRail
Y6, Don River Railway
DV1/Y7, cement train between Devonport and Railton, owned by TasRail
Y8, Don River Railway not operational.
Z1NorthernProgress2110

Thanks,

Y7 is obviously destined for scrap sooner rather than later.

Y1 and Y5 are obviously not wanted by Tasrail anymore and should be offered to tender before they deteriorate too much, especially Y1 being close to the sea.

Of the 8, 3 that are in preservation hands, Y2, Y4 and Y6 are operational (I believe) or not far off it. Which is not a bad effort. Potentially three more could be made so, which is 6 out of 8.

Y8 is the one from St Mary's? Which ironically drove itself to its longterm home at the old station as the last train on the line, but then left to mother nature and local F_wits to do the rest of the damage before finally being rescued many years later.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
no I believe that was an x class
I also have a feeling that the LNER will be wanting one of those y class in the future... time shall tell!
  Peter-Hem Locomotive Driver

Location: Tassie
no I believe that was an x class
Dangersdan707

X30. Now at the DVR.
  Z1NorthernProgress2110 Chief Commissioner

Location: Burnie, Tasmania
X30 is one that was at St Mary's.
Don't think DV1 would be scrapped, just stored with the 2050's and V12 EE locos.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
Y8, Don River Railway not operational.
Z1NorthernProgress2110
When I saw Y8 in 2010 it appeared to be in very poor condition.
  12CSVT Chief Commissioner

Location: Drowning in accreditation red tape!
Y8, Don River Railway not operational.
When I saw Y8 in 2010 it appeared to be in very poor condition.
Graham4405
A common sentiment is that Y8 (a gutted shell) needs to be returned to Inveresk, cosmetically restored and placed on a plinth - the final loco built in Launceston and a appropriate memorial to all rail vehicles built in Lton.
In exchange the fully intact and provisionally operational Y3 (of no particular historical significance - just another class member) needs to be extracted from its sarcophagus in Inveresk and returned to preservation service at DRR.
However it would be easier to get sense out of Kim Jong Un than trying to get any sense out of the rail heritage ignoramus vandals at QVM!
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Thanks for correction on X30

Agree if LNER does get up there needs to be a 6 figure sum available to fund making fully operational 2 locos

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