Malcolm Turncoat's imploding act

 
  1771D Junior Train Controller

Perhaps accept the cheque and donate the money to a worthwhile charity???  Would have thought that would be the obvious thing to do.  Rolling Eyes

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  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Perhaps accept the chequered and donate the money to a worthwhile charity???  Would have thought that would be the obvious thing to do.
1771D
He is reported yesterday as saying that he would not do that, because it would be tax deductible and he could still be seen to be benefiting from it.

It's a pity he couldn't publicly tell Gina exactly where to put her bribe money.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

The Gina/Barnady thing is mystifying. Are these people that arrogant/elitist in their attitude that a $40k cheque would pass the pub test? Does Gina want someone else to win New England?

Surely this will hurt his reelection chances. Love to hear from some local cockies their view.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Valvegear, Barnaby did tell Gina, publicly where to put her money. On his farm.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
The Gina/Barnady thing is mystifying. Are these people that arrogant/elitist in their attitude that a $40k cheque would pass the pub test? Does Gina want someone else to win New England?

Surely this will hurt his reelection chances. Love to hear from some local cockies their view.
michaelgm
Barnaby and Gina have been best buddies for yonks - that neither of them thought about the inappropriateness of what they were doing speaks volumes about how isolated they both are. And Gina not long ago employed Sophie Mirabella as her media advisor - why on earth she thought someone with such a shocking record in dealing with the media and the public would be a good person for the job is completely beyond me.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
Barnaby and Gina have been best buddies for yonks - that neither of them thought about the inappropriateness of what they were doing speaks volumes about how isolated they both are. And Gina not long ago employed Sophie Mirabella as her media advisor - why on earth she thought someone with such a shocking record in dealing with the media and the public would be a good person for the job is completely beyond me.
don_dunstan
It helps when Liberal or National Party is on your resume.
Former Liberal Party member Hanson is a big fan of the Gina, congratulating her when she assisted the Chinese significantly expand their stake in our agriculture.  Perhaps she’ll get the next 'prize'.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Barnaby and Gina have been best buddies for yonks - that neither of them thought about the inappropriateness of what they were doing speaks volumes about how isolated they both are. And Gina not long ago employed Sophie Mirabella as her media advisor - why on earth she thought someone with such a shocking record in dealing with the media and the public would be a good person for the job is completely beyond me.
It helps when Liberal or National Party is on your resume.
Former Liberal Party member Hanson is a big fan of the Gina, congratulating her when she assisted the Chinese significantly expand their stake in our agriculture.  Perhaps she’ll get the next 'prize'.
Groundrelay
You're wrong about that as I've explained to you before; Pauline was happy that it was staying in Australian hands rather than going to a Chinese government shell company.

EDIT: If you're doing this deliberately to try and stir me up about Pauline then forget it, I've said all I'm going to say on that topic.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
...You're wrong about that as I've explained to you before...
don_dunstan
At the time it was obvious to me why Gina stepped in to get the Kidman deal through and who benefitted. Those articles with Hanson's comments and the increase in Chinese agricultural holdings because of that deal aren’t wrong, regardless of your wishful thinking.

...If you're doing this deliberately to try and stir me up about Pauline then forget it, I've said all I'm going to say on that topic.
don_dunstan
If you take a position don’t expect everyone to agree with you no matter how many times you repeat it. You may just be wrong too Surprised
Frankly Don the woman’s not worth getting stirred up for!
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Johnny Howard gave an interview to Sky News telling them that the Liberals needed to stick with Truffles because he can turn the situation around (really?):

In an exclusive interview with Sky News, former prime minister John Howard says any Coalition MP considering endorsing a royal commission should reconsider their support. 'I would be staggered if the Coalition proposed a banking royal commission, that is rank socialism,' he said.

The ABC also reveals that Truffles has been wined and dined by wealthy Chinese donors to the LNP (what a surprise) - (ABC);

The ABC understands Mr Turnbull had not heard of Mr Liu until they met at a dinner four days later in Brisbane. The company reported the Sunday night dinner on its Mandarin website but deleted it shortly after being contacted by the ABC.

"The Prime Minister was invited to a function hosted by the LNP in Brisbane. The guest list is a matter for the LNP," a spokesman for the Prime Minister said. There is no record of AEW having any significant projects in Australia and the business is registered at a suburban house.

The soft corruption of our politicians continues unabated just as ASIO has been warning - only this time the Prime Minister himself indulges. A company with no apparent economic interests in Australia donates money to the Liberal Party for no other reason than it likes them, then four days later Malcolm has dinner with them? Doesn't pass the sniff test.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
If you take a position don’t expect everyone to agree with you no matter how many times you repeat it. You may just be wrong too Surprised
Frankly Don the woman’s not worth getting stirred up for!
Groundrelay
And yet you insist on stirring me up about her because you love the reaction.

As I've said countless times, stop being angry about Pauline and direct your anger the political hierarchy whose irrelevance has allowed One Nation to prosper.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
If you take a position don’t expect everyone to agree with you no matter how many times you repeat it. You may just be wrong too Surprised
Frankly Don the woman’s not worth getting stirred up for!
And yet you insist on stirring me up about her because you love the reaction.

As I've said countless times, stop being angry about Pauline and direct your anger the political hierarchy whose irrelevance has allowed One Nation to prosper.
don_dunstan
Why is it stirring?

True I don't share your enthusiasm for her and I've pointed out why. IMHO your statements and conclusions are somewhat or substantially incorrect and tend to be simplistic/reactionary. I can beg to differ and make a case, often in more detail that I care to. That's a debate, not stirring.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
That's a debate, not stirring.
Groundrelay
Well tomorrow if the LNP and Labor parties can't form government in their own right we can debate what caused people to abandon the major parties and what they can do to try and reverse it. It's always possible that the LNP and Labor will have to form a coalition government to keep Pauline away from power?
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
That's a debate, not stirring.
Well tomorrow if the LNP and Labor parties can't form government in their own right we can debate what caused people to abandon the major parties and what they can do to try and reverse it. It's always possible that the LNP and Labor will have to form a coalition government to keep Pauline away from power?
don_dunstan
On the latest poll at 12% support for ON, 88% want anyone else!!!
This represents a bit more than the majority voters, not what you’d like to believe Don. On those figures I’m sure you wouldn’t draw the same conclusions if it was the Greens. You can't have it both ways.

ON attracts mostly disgruntled LNP voters with their own hang-ups. Most people don’t want that lot holding the balance of power. It’s ironic a party which bangs on about minorities, benefits from a system that can give minorities disproportionate influence.

Battlers? From ON’s voting record in the senate it’s clear they care SFA for those on the wrong side of the ledger. It's a no brainer ON would support the LNP whose major concern isn't Queensland's 'battlers'.

P.S. I'm not discounting the protest aka Trump factor but who is benefitting most out of that outcome Laughing
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Lee Rhiannon has lost her spot on the top of the NSW Greens senate ticket - she's lost to NSW upper house member Dr Mehreen Faruqi by a reasonable margin. Lee was actually quite cordial about her loss (ABC);

"Some members may see my defeat as a setback for a member-driven party and one committed to the radical transformative policies we need if we are to stop climate change and to create a more equal society.

"But I am confident that the Greens NSW will remain a member-driven party now we've had this preselection and Mehreen Faruqi is on her way way to the Senate."

She also said she had been "heartened" by the support she had received from younger members of the party who would represent it in the future.

I'm pretty sure that there will be some Chardonnay Tree-Hugger Greens relieved that the Gremlin from the Kremlin has been excised; she was causing no end of problems with her ideology and Di Natalie wants to make them more elect-able - not less.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Cabinet leak might spell the end of Truffle's leadership - at last (News.com.au);

Details of Tuesday’s Cabinet meeting were revealed in the Daily Telegraph, which reported that ministers were backing a banking royal commission despite opposition from Mr Turnbull and Treasurer Scott Morrison. In an interview this morning, Today host Karl Stefanovic pointed out Cabinet was “leaking like a sieve” and asked frontbencher Christopher Pyne whether he was the source.
Mr Pyne denied being involved and said the Turnbull Government had been a “good, solid methodical government” and Cabinet needed to be “tight and united, which it has been”.
But Stefanovic was not convinced, pointing out: “As soon as Cabinet starts leaking it’s the end.”

This has been dragging on much longer and much more publicly than the coup that displaced Abbott; in the meantime who is running the joint? Maybe the Chinese lobbyists who buy Truffle's time with just $40,000 (ABC); the PM certainly doesn't seem the least bit interested in the people who they're actually supposed to be representing... us.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Cabinet leak might spell the end of Truffle's leadership - at last (News.com.au);

Details of Tuesday’s Cabinet meeting were revealed in the Daily Telegraph, which reported that ministers were backing a banking royal commission despite opposition from Mr Turnbull and Treasurer Scott Morrison. In an interview this morning, Today host Karl Stefanovic pointed out Cabinet was “leaking like a sieve” and asked frontbencher Christopher Pyne whether he was the source.
Mr Pyne denied being involved and said the Turnbull Government had been a “good, solid methodical government” and Cabinet needed to be “tight and united, which it has been”.
But Stefanovic was not convinced, pointing out: “As soon as Cabinet starts leaking it’s the end.”

This has been dragging on much longer and much more publicly than the coup that displaced Abbott; in the meantime who is running the joint? Maybe the Chinese lobbyists who buy Truffle's time with just $40,000 (ABC); the PM certainly doesn't seem the least bit interested in the people who they're actually supposed to be representing... us.
don_dunstan
When Parliament comes back (whenever the hell that is),expect Item of general business notice number 1, A motion to roll Truffles, backers Bishop/Morrison

Kind Regards
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Any speculation about PHON negotiating to support a minority government in QLD might well turn out to be completely irrelevant.

So far they don't have any seats, courtesy of their 'leader' (i.e. sole MP) Steve Dickson having been turfed out on a whopping 63/37 TCP. In the event that PHON do get a seat or two, they might be bypassed completely by the majors opting to negotiate with the MPs from Katter's Australian Party instead.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Any speculation about PHON negotiating to support a minority government in QLD might well turn out to be completely irrelevant.

So far they don't have any seats, courtesy of their 'leader' (i.e. sole MP) Steve Dickson having been turfed out on a whopping 63/37 TCP. In the event that PHON do get a seat or two, they might be bypassed completely by the majors opting to negotiate with the MPs from Katter's Australian Party instead.
justapassenger
I think PHON made a bad choice in Malcolm Roberts - they did poll strongly in some places but not enough so far to get seats. I like Bob Katter but they may find his platform even more offensive than PHON, he wants the power industry back in government hands.
When Parliament comes back (whenever the hell that is),expect Item of general business notice number 1, A motion to roll Truffles, backers Bishop/Morrison
Israilfan
Do you really think so? I'm starting to think they lack the intestinal fortitude to do anything about their situation and they'll just let it keep dragging on.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
Any speculation about PHON negotiating to support a minority government in QLD might well turn out to be completely irrelevant.

So far they don't have any seats, courtesy of their 'leader' (i.e. sole MP) Steve Dickson having been turfed out on a whopping 63/37 TCP. ...
justapassenger
Most people know what to expect from Labor, Liberal, National, and (for the most part) Greens i.e. their core values and key policies. However in the case of One Nation, it’s one thing to pick up the protest vote but what does this party collectively represent? What would a Hansonite government do?

"Queensland polls: One Nation policies leave economists stumped"

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/nov/25/queensland-polls-one-nation-policies-leave-economists-stumped

It's reassuring to see the vast majority of people aren’t sold on the alternative. They don’t pine for the past, they don’t need to blame 'different' people, they just want the major parties to get on with it.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
You will get absolutely no change while the current oligarchy remains in place - none at all. They're all captured by vested interests who want to keep the status quo.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
You will get absolutely no change while the current oligarchy remains in place - none at all. They're all captured by vested interests who want to keep the status quo.
don_dunstan
Yes we need 'change'. OK?
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
So stop voting for the corrupted major parties - including the Greens. Put them all last on your ballot like I do. The people in charge will not get the message as long as you continue to express faith in their capacity to deliver things that they have no intention of delivering - they'll just continue to lie and obfuscate and take you for granted.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Egregious soft corruption from all sides but the LNP make a fine art of it. Particularly nauseating is the defection of Mike Baird from public office directly into a cushy job at the National Australia Bank (Financial Review);

Former NSW premier Mike Baird received total remuneration of close to $900,000 for his first five months at the helm of National Australia Bank's corporate and institutional unit.

It's a far cry from the salary of the state's top politician. As premier he would have earned $387,600 for the entire year.

NAB's annual report for the 12 months to September 30 shows Mr Baird, who took up his role on April 21, received total remuneration of $886,845, including a cash salary of $535,766 and a short-term bonus of $227,754.

What on earth did he do for five months to get paid that much? I suspect it may have been a reward for something - perhaps for shuffling work the banks' way while Premier? Meanwhile the Big Four accounting firms - PriceWaterhouse Coopers, Earest Young, KPMG and Deloitte - collected a total of $2.6 billion (that's 'billion' with a 'b') for their combined efforts in helping the Australian government massage their accounts. Paper shuffling never looked so attractive. One of the most stunning examples of waste are reviews into programs that produce almost no information at all (Michael West);

On this subject, the question of why government is splashing so much money on these consultants, PwC was paid almost $10 million by the federal government to pen its study last year about social welfare bludgers, the report that is, which preceded Centrelink’s attack on welfare bludgers. For a 132 page report, including glossary, this comes in at a cool $75,000 a page.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Any speculation about PHON negotiating to support a minority government in QLD might well turn out to be completely irrelevant.

So far they don't have any seats, courtesy of their 'leader' (i.e. sole MP) Steve Dickson having been turfed out on a whopping 63/37 TCP. ...
Most people know what to expect from Labor, Liberal, National, and (for the most part) Greens i.e. their core values and key policies. However in the case of One Nation, it’s one thing to pick up the protest vote but what does this party collectively represent? What would a Hansonite government do?

"Queensland polls: One Nation policies leave economists stumped"

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/nov/25/queensland-polls-one-nation-policies-leave-economists-stumped

It's reassuring to see the vast majority of people aren’t sold on the alternative. They don’t pine for the past, they don’t need to blame 'different' people, they just want the major parties to get on with it.
Groundrelay
There's another factor too - electing PHON MPs doesn't actually mean they will still be on board with PHON a year, a month or even (as we saw in the Senate last week) a day after they enter the parliament. PHON and all these other celebrity mini-parties are just a bunch of independents, you can't get any consistency from them.

The public is smart enough to know they can't trust anyone remotely linked to PHON, and voted accordingly.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
NSW Government spends $2.3 billion to demolish and rebuild two stadiums in Sydney - why? From the ABC:

The Olympic Stadium and the Sydney Football Stadium will be demolished and rebuilt in a $2 billion overhaul signed off by New South Wales Cabinet...  Sports Minister Stuart Ayres backed that option and has spent almost two years tying himself into knots advocating various positions that would get it over the line.

But there has been fierce opposition from some members of Mr Ayres' own cabinet, with some scratching their heads as to why a stadium that was built as a state of the art venue for the Sydney Olympics less than 20 years ago should need such a complete overhaul so quickly.

As far as I can tell they want to turn the Olympic Stadium into a venue to host rugby and soccer but did they seriously have nothing else to spend $2.3 billion on? Hardly anyone goes to rugby in Sydney, they struggle to get crowds as large as 10,000. Too much stamp duty revenue and no clue as to what to waste it on?

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