Train passengers swelter in 1970s-era trains

 
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  Colonel Leon Junior Train Controller

Location:
It is called a Destination Board.
Clyde Goodwin 2
I’m well aware.

@simstrain
I am regarding all the issues the Waratahs had. They were delayed, had software issues and the like.

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  Clyde Goodwin2 Chief Train Controller

It is called a Destination Board.
I’m well aware.

@simstrain
I am regarding all the issues the Waratahs had. They were delayed, had software issues and the like.
Colonel Leon
ALL Trains or even loco,s have teething troubles when brand new so why carry on about A sets.

If you were aware its called a Destination Board then why did you call it a Indicator board.
  theanimal Chief Commissioner

It is called a Destination Board.
I’m well aware.

@simstrain
I am regarding all the issues the Waratahs had. They were delayed, had software issues and the like.
Colonel Leon
Name any new infrastructure that has not had problems, that is why you trial them, to identify the faults and hopefully fix them.

I remember when the Tangaras were introduced into Sydney, there were problems with the sets uncoupling in traffic, with a mitigation that the guard had to ride in the 5th position car.

Not sure what your "and the like" means, can you provide some more information?
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
The issue wirh the older non AC stock is a simple one.

Today most people turn up to work in the city in a AC BUS, AC car or AC train to work in an AC office. So goNE are the days when it was normal for most of your work force to turn up a bit sweaty on a humid hot day. So now today if you are the one in the old C sets, arriving in a crowded hot train, you stand out at work for all wrong reasons.

I agree there is nothing wrong with these trains but they are no longer meet our modern society expectations and need to be retired ASAP.
  Clyde Goodwin2 Chief Train Controller

The issue wirh the older non AC stock is a simple one.

Today most people turn up to work in the city in a AC BUS, AC car or AC train to work in an AC office. So goNE are the days when it was normal for most of your work force to turn up a bit sweaty on a humid hot day. So now today if you are the one in the old C sets, arriving in a crowded hot train, you stand out at work for all wrong reasons.

I agree there is nothing wrong with these trains but they are no longer meet our modern society expectations and need to be retired ASAP.
RTT_Rules
C sets are fully Airconditioned from when they were built as are the K sets which were retro fitted with AC.
  jcouch Assistant Commissioner

Location: Asleep on a commuter train
As a regular patron on S sets, summer isn't the issue for me. The heat is bearable. It is winter that is really bad on them. Windows that don't seal properly, great big vents in the doors channeling high speed freezing cold air into the carriage, and on wet days, water coming in through everything - including the ceiling vents in the top deck. They're not as unpleasent as the red rattlers, but compared to everything else, I dread getting one in winter.
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

As a regular patron on S sets, summer isn't the issue for me. The heat is bearable. It is winter that is really bad on them. Windows that don't seal properly, great big vents in the doors channeling high speed freezing cold air into the carriage, and on wet days, water coming in through everything - including the ceiling vents in the top deck. They're not as unpleasent as the red rattlers, but compared to everything else, I dread getting one in winter.
jcouch
Sufficient A sets should have been ordered to knock all S sets out. The contractor offered to build more but the tight fisted government knocked them back. Now we are getting more but probably at a far higher cost.
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

As a regular patron on S sets, summer isn't the issue for me. The heat is bearable. It is winter that is really bad on them. Windows that don't seal properly, great big vents in the doors channeling high speed freezing cold air into the carriage, and on wet days, water coming in through everything - including the ceiling vents in the top deck. They're not as unpleasent as the red rattlers, but compared to everything else, I dread getting one in winter.
Sufficient A sets should have been ordered to knock all S sets out. The contractor offered to build more but the tight fisted government knocked them back. Now we are getting more but probably at a far higher cost.
nswtrains

The cost is the same and there was more then enough A sets to replace all S sets. The problem is that the waratah's were that popular that they drove up patronage. The B sets purchase could also be extended to start replacing K and C sets.
  Colonel Leon Junior Train Controller

Location:
No idea what you are talking about regarding a smoother start. The waratahs are the smoothest starting trains on the network.
simstrain
Apparently, they had software issues with the computer, the glass was faulty at the cab window, the handlebars were faulty in the passenger vestibule and the first train was supposed to run 2 or 3 years before 2014.
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
No idea what you are talking about regarding a smoother start. The waratahs are the smoothest starting trains on the network.
Apparently, they had software issues with the computer, the glass was faulty at the cab window, the handlebars were faulty in the passenger vestibule and the first train was supposed to run 2 or 3 years before 2014.
Colonel Leon

Yeah; *had*. Not anymore.

Software is going to be buggy; there are some interesting quirks with eTIS from what I've been told.

The glass in the cab window was fixed pretty fast.

The handlebars were ALSO fixed pretty fast.

The trains are all delivered now; so that last point is moot.

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