3 carriage operations in 2018

 
  loopy Locomotive Driver

Hey guys I was curious as to which trains have regular 3 carriage trains in a year where we will start to gain 3, 6 and 7 carriage trains

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  loopy Locomotive Driver

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  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
Pretty sure many shuttle services still do.
  loopy Locomotive Driver

To my knowledge all the Alamein, Williamstown and Cranbourne shuttles operate them, an outbound Blackburn and Darling to Glen Waverley shuttles when they have works between there and Burnley. 3 carriage Comeng's operated Sunbury and Frankston shuttles from Albion and Moorabbin to the end of those lines
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
A 3 car X'Trapolis always runs the 2020 up Lilydale (weekday timetable only), all stations except East Richmond, and then the same thing back to Ringwood crush-loaded like something from India.
  reubstar6 Chief Train Controller

According to a friend of mine they run three car trains to Essendon for the Cox Plate.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

I thought horses ran for the Cox Plate Razz
  red_railway Locomotive Fireman

I thought horses ran for the Cox Plate Razz
justapassenger
There's no record of a train ever winning the Cox Plate. The horses don't operate under crush load
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
According to a friend of mine they run three car trains to Essendon for the Cox Plate.
reubstar6
That'so Metro/PTV can claim to have run twice as many extra 'services'.
  loopy Locomotive Driver

I have a feeling that there may be 3 carriage Comeng shuttles operating this weekend from Dandenong to Cranbourne and Pakenham due to the CD9 closure occurring as we speak. I only saw Comeng and not Siemens trains in Dandenong earlier today and they have less difficulty attaching and detaching
  spottyrahr Chief Commissioner

According to a friend of mine they run three car trains to Essendon for the Cox Plate.
That'so Metro/PTV can claim to have run twice as many extra 'services'.
YM-Mundrabilla
Or it could be that they terminate the trains in the short platform at Essendon.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
According to a friend of mine they run three car trains to Essendon for the Cox Plate.
That'so Metro/PTV can claim to have run twice as many extra 'services'.
Or it could be that they terminate the trains in the short platform at Essendon.
spottyrahr
No doubt.
  route14 Chief Commissioner

That would more likely be the reason why 3 car trains were used to run the extra service.  The short platform is 135 metres long, which cannot accommodate a 6 car train of 142 metres.
  reubstar6 Chief Train Controller

That would more likely be the reason why 3 car trains were used to run the extra service. The short platform is 135 metres long, which cannot accommodate a 6 car train of 142 metres.
route14

Yes, that was the reason cited. I can understand why, and yes, it is good to use Essendon platform one every once in a while (mainly for trainspotters), but is it really worth it? Would it be better to just run an extra couple of six car trains up to Craigieburn (or even Broadmeadows) if you had to? Platform one, as far as I know, has no facilities, and my friend said he had to walk all the way to the island to touch off.
  reubstar6 Chief Train Controller

That would more likely be the reason why 3 car trains were used to run the extra service. The short platform is 135 metres long, which cannot accommodate a 6 car train of 142 metres.

Yes, that was the reason cited. I can understand why, and yes, it is good to use Essendon platform one every once in a while (mainly for trainspotters), but is it really worth it? Would it be better to just run an extra couple of six car trains up to Craigieburn (or even Broadmeadows) if you had to? Platform one, as far as I know, has no facilities, and my friend said he had to walk all the way to the island to touch off.
  Mikey127 Junior Train Controller

I thought horses ran for the Cox Plate Razz
There's no record of a train ever winning the Cox Plate. The horses don't operate under crush load
red_railway
They would have no chance against Winx. Also I'm not sure how a train would respond to having someone holding it with reigns and whipping it.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
I thought horses ran for the Cox Plate Razz
There's no record of a train ever winning the Cox Plate. The horses don't operate under crush load
They would have no chance against Winx. Also I'm not sure how a train would respond to having someone holding it with reigns and whipping it.
Mikey127
It's not the trains that need whipping. It is some of the staff, a lot of the management and all the politicians.
  loopy Locomotive Driver

A few weekends ago they had 3 carriage Comeng and Siemens shuttles running at 10 minute frequencies between Broadmeadows P1 and Craigieburn P2 due to Buckley St crossing removal works
  loopy Locomotive Driver

They had a 3 carriage Comeng and Siemens shuttle from Broadmeadows to Craigieburn operating at 10 minute frequencies a few weekends ago due to Buckley St crossing removal
  loopy Locomotive Driver

3 carriage shuttle Ringwood to Belgrave [9:54pm Ringwood to Belgrave], because of Camberwell to Alamein and Lilydale closure tonight. Presumably this was the former 8:20pm Lilydale to Ringwood for tonight. Ringwood bound train we passed near Bayswater was 6 carriages though...
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
I think the 3 car running on the Lilydale/Belgrave line has something to do with Alamein shuttles which have to terminate in the up siding at Camberwell, which can only fit 3 carriages, the trains are probably split regardless of whether they can even make it to Camberwell. Ditch the Alamein shuttles and the accompanying siding (make it four tracks Burnley-Camberwell already) and the entire Burnley group would be 6 cars.

It used to be even worse though, in ye olde days (up to the early 2000s) they used to lock the rear cars after dark and have only one carriage in use. Occasionally the driver would forget to swap the "active" carriage to the front at the end of the line and everyone would end up in the last carriage instead. On the rare occasion people would sometimes get on the train without the driver seeing and then get stuck inside when the lights went out and the doors closed, having to force the doors to get out or press the emergency button if the train was one of the few refurbished ones at the time (the doors between the cars were also locked back then so you couldn't simply walk through). The one carriage operation happened even if a Hitachi was running the service (even back then they were forced to stay as 6 cars) - five cars would be locked and in complete darkness and it would be a long walk back to the station exit if it wasn't at the front of the train.

I remember one night in the late 90s we had a defective (and cancelled) up Lilydale train (a 3 car Comeng), which sped past us whilst waiting at Mooroolbark at around 9 or 10PM, about ten minutes this Hitachi appeared from the city end, terminated in the Mooroolbark platform, with the second carriage lit up rather than the first (didn't even know that was possible, unless my memory was playing tricks and it was the third car instead, but the communication door between carriages was at the Flinders Street end of the car, and it wasn't a D type car or the back three cars) and the driver absolutely floored it with an express run to Box Hill (this may or may not have supposed to be an empty cars run, but he let everyone on anyway, but we all had to get off at Box Hill), you could feel the whole carriage go down on one side and then the other when we raced through the old 60 km/h S curves at Laburnum (which have since been relaid with concrete sleepers, canted, re-rated to 70, and dropped under Middleborough Rd). To date this has been the fastest run I've ever been on when it comes to the Lilydale line; even the 2034 up express from Ringwood feels like a tram ride compared to this.

Slightly off-topic, but a lot of services beyond the wires run as 3 car Vlocity sets, do they count? Smile
  loopy Locomotive Driver

I know V/Line V/Locity are 3 carriages more often so that would be in the Victorian thread. This is because Metro besides shuttles are rarely 3 carriages.

So you're saying when they shut the Alamein line these past few nights ago they had insufficient stabling at Camberwell so they had to stable in the 3 carriage siding? Sounds similar to when they have Darling to Glen Waverley shutdowns - they seem to have a 6 carriage X'Trap in each platform there due to the 3 sidings there being occupied.

I also think the reasoning behind those Ringwood 8:50pm and 9:20pm being 3 carriages is because of stabling deficiencies at Ringwood and Lilydale [6:49pm Flinders Street to Lilydale separates in P1 Lilydale]. Certain sidings are 9 carriages long in the form of a 6 carriage, then 3 carriage
  loopy Locomotive Driver

They seem to have changed 3 carriage operations recently. So instead of 8:20pm Lilydale to Flinders Street forming 9:20pm Flinders Street to Ringwood etc, they've made the 7:41pm Lilydale to Ringwood 3 carriages forming the 8:26pm Ringwood to Belgrave, which must run shuttles back and forth between Lilydale and Belgrave for the rest of the night

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