New Cattle Crates withdrawn from service

 
  emerald-a Locomotive Fireman

Well 6W46 went west again yesterday so it seems that there is some sort of agreement in place between Aurizon and the government for freight for now at least.

Given a lack of any announcement by any party i would presume it is some kind of rollover of the existing agreement whilst talks continue.

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  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
https://www.qt.com.au/news/wagons-return-critical-for-2000-jobs-at-ipswich-me/3308391/

Maybe the cattle trains are not necessarily over...
  emerald-a Locomotive Fireman

Seems that the word was a week off on the start of the second freight train to  Longreach .

It is starting this week replacing the trucks they have been using for the last few years to carry containers from Rocky between the Sunday services.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Seems that the word was a week off on the start of the second freight train to  Longreach .

It is starting this week replacing the trucks they have been using for the last few years to carry containers from Rocky between the Sunday services.
emerald-a
What sort of intermodal volumes are there from Rocky/elsewhere to Emerald?
  M636C Minister for Railways

The new cattle sets were stored a number of weeks ago pending decisions on how to fix the problems after a spate of "incidents". It was only a matter of time before the LNP opposition and the media found out, election or no election. In an unfortunate coincidence Aurizon had literally just sold the old KOJX cattle fleet for scrap when the new sets were stored.
Sulla1
My recollection was that the KOJX wagons were basically QLX flat cars with rubber flooring and the "crates" were basically just the sides and ends in one piece attached at the corners (and possibly elsewhere).

From the description, the new containers are just that and can be used on any container wagon of suitable length.

Are these 40 feet containers (not having seen them)

With Aurizon exiting intermodal freight, a new use for container wagons seems like a good idea.

But with no experience of real cattle containers, it is understandable that there would be detail design problems.

The VR and WAGR both produced 20 feet cattle containers in the 1960s and 1970s.
The VR cattle containers are popular in NSW for storing track maintenance equipment alongside the track, since the doors can be secured but you can see what is in them through the slats. I think they just outlasted the cattle traffic in Victoria.

Peter
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

The WAGR containers actually ended up in Queensland for sheep and pig traffic during the 1990s and into the 2000s.

The new Queensland Transport 40ft crates were originally fitted to the new AQYY 40ft container wagons, but the new wagons were allegedly too high for some loading ramps. Aurizon has now swapped the AQYYs with 1990s-era PCZYs and PCUYs. The AQYYs are now in the Dugald River concentrate traffic.

The cessation of Queensland intermodal should see a signficant number of the 60ft BCZY/BAZY/BEZY wagons transferred to PNQ, with Aurizon retaining the P type 40fts for the Bulk Division, which manages cattle and industrial freight.
  emerald-a Locomotive Fireman

Seems that the word was a week off on the start of the second freight train to  Longreach .

It is starting this week replacing the trucks they have been using for the last few years to carry containers from Rocky between the Sunday services.
What sort of intermodal volumes are there from Rocky/elsewhere to Emerald?
james.au

Nothing major ,probably 8-12 wagons on the train normally on a Sunday plus whatever they bring in on the trucks that are now being replaced by the second train service.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Seems that the word was a week off on the start of the second freight train to  Longreach .

It is starting this week replacing the trucks they have been using for the last few years to carry containers from Rocky between the Sunday services.
What sort of intermodal volumes are there from Rocky/elsewhere to Emerald?

Nothing major ,probably 8-12 wagons on the train normally on a Sunday plus whatever they bring in on the trucks that are now being replaced by the second train service.
emerald-a
Good to see there's been some sort of mindset change relating to the CSO freight...too bad the gypsum traffic from Winton was lost in the interim. I wonder if a return to rail freight service on the Western Line is now also possible through the same contract?
  emerald-a Locomotive Fireman

Seems that the word was a week off on the start of the second freight train to  Longreach .

It is starting this week replacing the trucks they have been using for the last few years to carry containers from Rocky between the Sunday services.
What sort of intermodal volumes are there from Rocky/elsewhere to Emerald?

Nothing major ,probably 8-12 wagons on the train normally on a Sunday plus whatever they bring in on the trucks that are now being replaced by the second train service.
Good to see there's been some sort of mindset change relating to the CSO freight...too bad the gypsum traffic from Winton was lost in the interim. I wonder if a return to rail freight service on the Western Line is now also possible through the same contract?
Sulla1
The gypsum was apparently lost due to an argument over who would pay for improving the loading point at Winton.

I would be interested to know why the idea of putting the freight back on rail has come about now after the last few years attempts to move it onto road as much as possible. Is it an Aurizon change of outlook or is it the government telling them that they aren't going to pay for them to move stuff by truck.

Lots of low level management talk about new 2 year Regional Freight and Cattle contracts being agreed with Aurizon but no announcement from anyone that I have seen so time will tell.
  emerald-a Locomotive Fireman

Looks like they might be getting ready to kick off this years stock season, though whether it will be ghost trains or cattle carrying trains is still to be seen. At least one of the loader/stock checkers has been taken down south to see the solution that has been decided upon to stop the doors being knocked off by infrastructure when they fall open.

Gossip is that the solution is red tape or paint that shows if the door is incorrectly fastened .
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

The first loaded Aurizon cattle train to operate south from Townsville this year departed Partington for Lakes Creek in Rockhampton today. The train orginated in Julia Creek and consisted of the first test cattle set upgraded with new latches and viewing hatches. Shipments typically begin in March.
  traintram Beginner

The Rail Transport subsidy has increased from $33m pa to $51m pa yet no cattle trains till now, any ideas what else it is used for?
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

The newly reinstated twice weekly container freights to Longreach and Winton, operated by Aurizon's Bulk Division are included in the CSO. Cattle trains have been impacted by low cattle supply from the ongoing drought as well as the stock crate issues.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner
  qldrail Beginner

Sulla, it appears the TSC subsidy has gone from $51m to over $200m or $1.1b over 4 years....any idea what that is for?
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
EMBUA CSO TSC TMR.

NICGAS but someone might be vaguely interested in BL.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
The gypsum was apparently lost due to an argument over who would pay for improving the loading point at Winton.

emerald-a
Over the 12 years I lived in CQ and talking to various people who were shipping XYZ on QR but later switched to road, the most common answer on why was, QR refused to pay to fix their loading/unloading depo!
  locojoe67 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Gen X purgatory/urban Joh-land
Is there any word on cattle services to Quilpie this season?

If so, does anyone know what days they run?
  emerald-a Locomotive Fireman

From what i have heard there are 2 30 wagon strings of cattle wagons that have been fixed so far with test trains having run to Julia Creek, Winton and Clermont .

There are still minor teething  problems with some of the new latches but it sounds like the rest of the wagons will be fixed in the coming months.

Word is that train services will be extended into December, wet season permitting, which depending on which loading location they are talking about is up to a month later than normal.
  Big J Assistant Commissioner

Location: In Paradise
Thanks emerald. Informative post on this. Having no suitable wagons has hurt this.

I wonder if Oakey meatworks will start to see some still movements?

It is a shame with the decline with these services when only a few years ago there seemed to be quite a bit of investment. There were even shuttle services to Bakers Creek from Mackay. However I haven’t seen any of these for some time.

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