http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/future-melbourne/east-werribee-30bn-super-city-options-include-driverless-trains-rail-loop/news-story/c0b16b7c1782f5f9988e6f576423a80d
When I was last living in Melbourne that area was supposed to be the site of a new "justice precinct" or conglomerate of new prisons; they must have decided that "education district" sounded nicer and/or got the developers more interested.I think the locals kicked up enough of a stink about Melbourne "dumping" all of it's ne'er di wells on the Western Suburbs (despite the obvious employment benefits) that the government changed it's mind.
They decided to build a big new prison at the existing "justice precinct" at Ravenhall instead. Personally I don't see the difference between a prison and a university - they both consume years of your life and you get nothing at the end of it.When I was last living in Melbourne that area was supposed to be the site of a new "justice precinct" or conglomerate of new prisons; they must have decided that "education district" sounded nicer and/or got the developers more interested.I think the locals kicked up enough of a stink about Melbourne "dumping" all of it's ne'er di wells on the Western Suburbs (despite the obvious employment benefits) that the government changed it's mind.
BG
Without Uni, I couldn't do the job I do today. Arts/Science and to a degree Business/Commerce I agree, but Medicine/Eng/Law do require further education from Secondary.They decided to build a big new prison at the existing "justice precinct" at Ravenhall instead. Personally I don't see the difference between a prison and a university - they both consume years of your life and you get nothing at the end of it.When I was last living in Melbourne that area was supposed to be the site of a new "justice precinct" or conglomerate of new prisons; they must have decided that "education district" sounded nicer and/or got the developers more interested.I think the locals kicked up enough of a stink about Melbourne "dumping" all of it's ne'er di wells on the Western Suburbs (despite the obvious employment benefits) that the government changed it's mind.
BG
It doesn't need to be. Passengers can interchange at Laverton if they want express services.Another Option is to extend the Altona Loop from Westona to Point Cook and then to the southern border of this new development.
That thought also occurred to me and then I thought not an express route to Melbourne as such.
Exactly. This southern route would not be about being express, it would be about increasing the presence of Rail Transport in an area critically under represented when compared to its counterparts in the East and South East. You just have to look at the Swanston St trams and the areas they serve in comparison. In conjunction with a rock solid, useable Bus Network, a southern route would see thousands of commuters switch from the west gate to the train in Point Cook, and would provide an additional rail corridor to build around in Werribee SouthIt doesn't need to be. Passengers can interchange at Laverton if they want express services.Another Option is to extend the Altona Loop from Westona to Point Cook and then to the southern border of this new development.
That thought also occurred to me and then I thought not an express route to Melbourne as such.
And would also fill Altona Loop trains.Exactly. This southern route would not be about being express, it would be about increasing the presence of Rail Transport in an area critically under represented when compared to its counterparts in the East and South East. You just have to look at the Swanston St trams and the areas they serve in comparison. In conjunction with a rock solid, useable Bus Network, a southern route would see thousands of commuters switch from the west gate to the train in Point Cook, and would provide an additional rail corridor to build around in Werribee SouthIt doesn't need to be. Passengers can interchange at Laverton if they want express services.Another Option is to extend the Altona Loop from Westona to Point Cook and then to the southern border of this new development.
That thought also occurred to me and then I thought not an express route to Melbourne as such.
Heavy Rail seems like overkill to me. Yes they are projecting large numbers of people to live and work in the area, but it is to be a densely populated and geographically small area and thus, heavy rail wouldn't be the best fit.I agree that a heavy rail loop is probably not a good option. If a reserved corridor is being made available as part of the East Weribee development then there are a whole bunch of other high quality public transport options available:
I think the best option would see Hoppers Crossing station rebuilt (with the adjacent level crossing being eliminated in the process, naturally) with a cross platform connection to a light rail service. This light rail could provide direct access to the new precinct, via the Werribee Hospital. While at the other end it could either run into central Werribee, or it could run into Point Cook. This second option would provide Point Cook with a much improved connection to Werribee Line trains.
Driverless or not? Its largely irrelevant to me, I will leave that to the experts.
How this is a great option, put another rail loop onto the Werribee line.I'm not advocating first idea, as said above, highly expensive and unlikely to happen. Would of been ideal if planning was done to preserve the corridor before the development occurred.
Option 1: extend the Altona line through Point Cooke and connect to the new precinct
Option 2: Build a new rail branch to Werribee South connecting the new precinct, and build the Metro 2 Tunnel.
This would mean a cheaper rail connection and a new direct tunnel connection into the Cbd and more capacity to the Werribee line, Williamstown/Laverton lines.
Oh yes, i thought it would have been the space between Point cook and the Princess Fwy. but then i thought it cant be because last time i went pass new houses were appearing.Where exactly is east Werribee? i've never heard of it before.
Where the Research farm used to be, almost directly across the railway line from Hoppers Crossing.
Mike.
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